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11/2/2019 2:03:03 PM EDT
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Critical Drinker's review:

Terminator Dark Fate - An Utter Disaster
11/2/2019 2:03:37 PM EDT
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Looking forward to seeing it with my dad and brothers this weekend.

The movie has an 87% audience score, which according to other threads here is more important than the critics score.
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$100 million promo budget allows for lots of clickfarm shills to talk a movie up.
11/2/2019 2:04:05 PM EDT
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I wanted to see it until I heard 'border detention facility' and 'illegal immigrant hero'.

Nope.
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Wasn't an illegal immigrant,  was happily a Mexican citizen.  Yes, they were caught sneaking over the border due to plot reasons.  They were in the US for ... less than 2 days?
11/2/2019 2:05:37 PM EDT
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I wonder how much China money behind the scenes makes up for the loss?
Sports and entertainment has been bought out long ago by foreign  interest.
11/2/2019 2:05:39 PM EDT
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how id this film SJW OR WOKE?

i KNOW NOTHING OF IT
11/2/2019 2:06:40 PM EDT
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Saw it last night with my son. We both enjoyed it, but then again, i don’t watch movies looking for things to get pissed off about.
11/2/2019 2:07:35 PM EDT
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It's interesting to see how different websites have it scored...

11/2/2019 2:09:05 PM EDT
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Heard you have to read subtitles in the movie unless you understand spanish.
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I wanted to see it until I heard 'border detention facility' and 'illegal immigrant hero'.

Nope.
Heard you have to read subtitles in the movie unless you understand spanish.
Not true in the least. But hey, you heard it from someone, so it must be true.
11/2/2019 2:11:41 PM EDT
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I loved terminator when it came out, but the chick that played Sarah conners(forgot her name) went all masculine by the second one and got weird in real life.
11/2/2019 2:14:17 PM EDT
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Morons should of kept going with Terminator Salvation.
Was not the best by any means but Maybe could’ve turned into something

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FJC
11/2/2019 2:15:27 PM EDT
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movies that were popular back then would be shit now anyway
11/2/2019 2:17:52 PM EDT
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Terminator 2 was a huge pile of shit, as have all of the movies been after the perfect first one.  Edward Furlong’s awful cheesy acting, and Arnold’s terrible “now I know why you cry but it is the one thing I cannot do,” Jesus.  It was so terrible.  I have never understood why people rank it like you do.
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You are literally the only person that I can ever recall who didn't like T2.
11/2/2019 2:19:59 PM EDT
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WTF?  Liberal media hated Joker and was hoping for a box office failure.
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Liberal media did hate it. But the “burn everything and cry like a bitch in the streets if you don’t feel special“ message was well received by liberals who do exactly that.
11/2/2019 2:20:28 PM EDT
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You are literally the only person that I can ever recall who didn't like T2.
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I’m not going to go as far as saying that I didn’t like T2.
But I will say that T1 is the best hands down
11/2/2019 2:22:11 PM EDT
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Wasn't an illegal immigrant,  was happily a Mexican citizen.  Yes, they were caught sneaking over the border due to plot reasons.  They were in the US for ... less than 2 days?
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I wanted to see it until I heard 'border detention facility' and 'illegal immigrant hero'.

Nope.
Wasn't an illegal immigrant,  was happily a Mexican citizen.  Yes, they were caught sneaking over the border due to plot reasons.  They were in the US for ... less than 2 days?
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11/2/2019 2:23:45 PM EDT
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Honestly Terminator Salvation is on Hulu and was a lot better than I remember. The ending was a bit of an asspull but not that bad.

I mean we actually get a future war and the aesthetics of the wasteland was pretty darn good.
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I did like it too.
11/2/2019 2:26:05 PM EDT
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Hollyweird has been involved in social engineering for quite sometime,   the Chinese money influence has pushed it into overdrive.

The Chinese have good reason to see America weakened by open border policies and SJW nonsense.   Also need to factor in the Chinese will happily fund anything that puts Trump in a negative light (Border issue) seeing as he is a major thorn in their side with regards to trade and Chinese expansion of influence.
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Yep, they have ruined a lot of movies. And Hollywood can't get that money cock deep enough down their throat.
11/2/2019 2:30:31 PM EDT
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It's interesting to see how different websites have it scored...

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Seeing as how the critic scores were manipulated so blatantly, I wonder if there's not more effort being put into manipulating audience scores.

Most helpful reviews on IMDB are all negative.
11/2/2019 2:32:41 PM EDT
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Seems like the business model is changing.  
- Back in the day, big companies made big movies for the theater ticket revenue.  Then they'd make a few bucks showing the movies on a few cable/TV channels.  
- Nowadays, big companies make larger numbers of movies/series for the subscription/advertising/merch revenue.
11/2/2019 2:35:01 PM EDT
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Since I hadn't planned to see this in a theater I went to Wiki to read the plot.

HOLY. SHIT. It's like they took the basic idea of T2, added some T3/Genysis, tossed in some SJW, and molded it all into a turd.
11/2/2019 2:40:03 PM EDT
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Wasn't this new one directed by the director of Deadpool? Seems like it would have been much more nonSJW but maybe the producers and writers pulled all the strings
11/2/2019 2:44:14 PM EDT
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The Terminator he/she/it looks like dylan roof the charleston shooter.



11/2/2019 2:45:52 PM EDT
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Terminator 2 was one of my favorite movies growing up.  I liked the 3rd one and Salvation as well.  I didnt see Genysys or this one, and I'm not going to.

Did Arnold get a facelift?
11/2/2019 2:47:55 PM EDT
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Funny how on the other movie threads, everyone is like 'look at the audience score' and now it's like 'ignore the audience score'.  Lol.
11/2/2019 2:49:42 PM EDT
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Funny how on the other movie threads, everyone is like 'look at the audience score' and now it's like 'ignore the audience score'.  Lol.
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$100 million promo budget allows for lots of clickfarm shills to talk a movie up.
Funny how on the other movie threads, everyone is like 'look at the audience score' and now it's like 'ignore the audience score'.  Lol.
It's not "ignore the audience score" it's: "look at the website you're getting your audience score from."
11/2/2019 2:51:18 PM EDT
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It's not "ignore the audience score" it's: "look at the website you're getting your audience score from."
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You see, that's just it. Everyone was quoting the audience score from the same website for the Joker, Batwoman, Rambo, etc..
11/2/2019 2:54:18 PM EDT
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You see, that's just it. Everyone was quoting the audience score from the same website for the Joker, Batwoman, Rambo, etc..
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It's not "ignore the audience score" it's: "look at the website you're getting your audience score from."
You see, that's just it. Everyone was quoting the audience score from the same website for the Joker, Batwoman, Rambo, etc..
You see, Rotten Tomatoes manipulates the audience score when the audience scores a particular type of movie "too low" they don't care about high ratings.
11/2/2019 2:56:00 PM EDT
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You see, Rotten Tomatoes manipulates the audience score when the audience scores a particular type of movie "too low" they don't care about high ratings.
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So, it's right on when it's a movie you like but it's manipulated when it's not?  That's an interesting algo.
11/2/2019 2:58:39 PM EDT
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That’s not the terminator.
11/2/2019 2:59:25 PM EDT
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So, it's right on when it's a movie you like but it's manipulated when it's not?  That's an interesting algo.
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You see, Rotten Tomatoes manipulates the audience score when the audience scores a particular type of movie "too low" they don't care about high ratings.
So, it's right on when it's a movie you like but it's manipulated when it's not?  That's an interesting algo.
So, you can't understand basic English.  That would be surprising if you weren't a troll.
11/2/2019 2:59:36 PM EDT
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T1, T2, Salvation.... nothing else exists.
11/2/2019 3:00:13 PM EDT
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You are literally the only person that I can ever recall who didn't like T2.
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Terminator 2 was a huge pile of shit, as have all of the movies been after the perfect first one.  Edward Furlong’s awful cheesy acting, and Arnold’s terrible “now I know why you cry but it is the one thing I cannot do,” Jesus.  It was so terrible.  I have never understood why people rank it like you do.
You are literally the only person that I can ever recall who didn't like T2.
I've never met anyone who didn't like it.
11/2/2019 3:03:27 PM EDT
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11/2/2019 3:05:04 PM EDT
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Hollywood isn't there to make money, it exists to push agendas.
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They're fucking up because they make 4 BILLION dollars a year in sales.
11/2/2019 3:09:31 PM EDT
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A lot of these flops are actually money laundering schemes; movies don't have to make a profit to make money.
11/2/2019 3:20:02 PM EDT
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Didn't even know this movie existed.
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You wouldn't be missing anything.  Hollywood could use the full libraries of stories with interesting people and history but its too difficult to make meaningful films.  They just rehash the same special effects vehicles over and over without any fun to them.  If the action sequences were well done, it would be easier to overlook but they are not even doing that well either.  When common video games have more engaging set pieces then triple A films, you know they are not even trying.
11/2/2019 3:22:32 PM EDT
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Honestly Terminator Salvation is on Hulu and was a lot better than I remember. The ending was a bit of an asspull but not that bad.

I mean we actually get a future war and the aesthetics of the wasteland was pretty darn good.
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The first half was like Gatorade on a Hot day.  The rest of the film was like Dulculax on Hot day.  They were set for a cool large scale battle at the complex and skipped out on it.  Would have been extra climatic and tense with them engaged outside with T-1 and T-600's while John fought the newly minted T-800 inside.
11/2/2019 3:30:17 PM EDT
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WTF?  Liberal media hated Joker and was hoping for a box office failure.
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With all due respect, where Joker is concerned, the liberal media was hoping for a mass shooting.
11/2/2019 3:31:15 PM EDT
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Good. This should happen to everything in the entertainment industry preaching SJW garbage.

People want to be entertained, not lectured on how to be PC.
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+1
11/2/2019 3:43:51 PM EDT
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I agree.
I read somewhere that Salvation was supposed to be the first of a trilogy.
Wonder why that fell through?
11/2/2019 3:44:41 PM EDT
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I went to the theater today.  I had a choice between Joker and Terminator.  I chose Joker
11/2/2019 3:46:26 PM EDT
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The first half was like Gatorade on a Hot day.  The rest of the film was like Dulculax on Hot day.  They were set for a cool large scale battle at the complex and skipped out on it.  Would have been extra climatic and tense with them engaged outside with T-1 and T-600's while John fought the newly minted T-800 inside.
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Yeah.

We also didn’t really need the Terminator hybrid.

Honestly remove the Terminator hybrid, change the ending to where John Connor saves Kyle Reese, and have the Resistance slug it out with HKs and it would be even better.

I didn’t even mind the mute little black girl. Kids can tend to be annoying but she was amusing and interesting. I remember folks theorizing she was a Terminator.
I thought the Resistance uniforms looked less hokey than in T1. You get the impression that a lot of guys were active duty or former police or something and any recruited people they liberated just wore whatever would fit them. Plus the Submarine part and the Osprey.

Honestly it was a fairly epic film in hindsight. I think sequel hooks and just being Hollywood held it back. But I may watch it again.

Like when they fix the Jeep. I thought it was some old ratty thing. No! It was a JK contemporary to the year the film was made.

Some of the visuals of the landscape were terrific.

Yeah I’ll probably watch it again tonight.

The Skynet computer lady and the other stuff was going too far but the T-600s were pretty badass
11/2/2019 4:35:50 PM EDT
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The only thing good about T2 was the HD Fatboy and Dwight Yoakam.
11/2/2019 5:04:55 PM EDT
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Given your profile pic and username, Salvation the best one?
11/2/2019 5:34:19 PM EDT
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Seen it at the noon showing in the imax. Only had about 5 others in the theater.
11/2/2019 5:34:48 PM EDT
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DT.
11/2/2019 5:36:10 PM EDT
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"Satire is impossible." - Wise Cola Man
11/2/2019 8:50:33 PM EDT
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I agree.
I read somewhere that Salvation was supposed to be the first of a trilogy.
Wonder why that fell through?
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T1, T2, Salvation.... nothing else exists.
I agree.
I read somewhere that Salvation was supposed to be the first of a trilogy.
Wonder why that fell through?
Because they fucked up the ending.
11/2/2019 9:34:57 PM EDT
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Terminator 1 is the only Terminator.  The time loop is closed.  No changes are possible.  Any attempt to change past events actually produces them.  Fate is fixed.

That was the message of the original movie, and it was artfully told.  Everything since has been a prostitution of the story line for money.
11/2/2019 9:35:56 PM EDT
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This.

Nobody wants to see the women's lib version any damn way.

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