[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Surefire campaign finance contributions... universal background checks and full capacity mag ban (Page 8 of 10)
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Quoted: And your point would be? Does that make up for supporting those that would strip you of your rights? What ratio makes it ok? 3 to 1? 10 to 1? So don't sit here and act like because someone has a (R) behind their name that they are on our side. |
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The point here is the whole system is fucked with this pay to play shit. The bigger picture is to stop voting in fuckers who are bought and paid for. That’s what we should be mad about IMHO. Our entire political system needs a cleansing. Quoted:
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And yet the majority of their donations are going to Republicans. https://i.ibb.co/4jq4Zw8/IMG-6942.jpg Does that make up for supporting those that would strip you of your rights? What ratio makes it ok? 3 to 1? 10 to 1? |
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And yet the majority of their donations are going to Republicans. https://i.ibb.co/4jq4Zw8/IMG-6942.jpg Does that make up for supporting those that would strip you of your rights? What ratio makes it ok? 3 to 1? 10 to 1? ETA: Look at the Citizens United decision. |
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Quoted: I will take the Red Chinese over back stabbing money hungry companies any day. One of them has principles, whether you agree with them or not, the other will lie to your face and sell you out for a buck. Who cares where they are made as long as it is a good product. I switched from an F150 to aTitan HD since Nissan offers the engine I wanted, and ford played stupid games. Why the hell should I be "loyal" to someone who tells me to me face I cannot trust them? We need the guy in the Red suit meme "Give money to china" "Give money to American Company that will turn the USA socialist " |
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Answer this... How many of your precious Bloods (Republicans) have been in support of gun control in the past??? More than you want to admit I'm sure, but you're only worried when the Crips (Democrats) are the ones in support of it. So are you only against it when your non-affiliated party is in favor of it, or are you totally against gun control? The issue with a lot of people on this post is that they feel their party is superior and clean of any anti-gun legislation, when BOTH parties have gotten their hands dirty in the gun control game. Your precious Trump is a gun-control supporter, the NRA has written some of the past gun-control bills and supported the most recent bump stock ban. So don't sit here and act like because someone has a (R) behind their name that they are on our side. Quoted:
Quoted: And your point would be? Does that make up for supporting those that would strip you of your rights? What ratio makes it ok? 3 to 1? 10 to 1? So don't sit here and act like because someone has a (R) behind their name that they are on our side. |
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I see this whole issue got started with the benchmade thing the other day.
Just to preface my response, I consider myself a very pro 2nd amendment supporter. I dont like the idea of surefire donating this money to a left wing politician. Just rumors now being thrown around is this politician that was donated to was up against Kamala Harris which I think by now everyone knows what her stance on 2A is. I will wait for a response from Surefire as well, but honestly, this doesnt surprise me. Theyre just greasing a politcian for their reasons. The ironic thing about all this is, everyone gets up in arms about benchmade, surefire, columbia clothing, nike..etc etc. But are some of your cell providers AT&T? Verizon? Thats to name a few in that industry? Do you pay cable to Comcast? Have you ever visited Disney and soend a oenny there? All companies that donate heavily to left wing politicians. Left wing corps in general. Is every single article of clothing we wear made in USA or in over seas sweatshops? Some of these American apparel type companies donate as well to these causes and no one bothers to care. What kind of vehicles do you drive? Chevy, Ford to name a few? I dont know what their particular political stance is but I know tons of people own theri products and theor products are made by employees who belong to UAW Unions. These very vehicles we purchase, the salaries of the very employess who manufacture them kick up union dues which then get rolled right back into left wing politicians and corps. I find this crap to be stupid quite honestly. |
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Answer this... How many of your precious Bloods (Republicans) have been in support of gun control in the past??? More than you want to admit I'm sure, but you're only worried when the Crips (Democrats) are the ones in support of it. So are you only against it when your non-affiliated party is in favor of it, or are you totally against gun control? The issue with a lot of people on this post is that they feel their party is superior and clean of any anti-gun legislation, when BOTH parties have gotten their hands dirty in the gun control game. Your precious Trump is a gun-control supporter, the NRA has written some of the past gun-control bills and supported the most recent bump stock ban. So don't sit here and act like because someone has a (R) behind their name that they are on our side. Quoted:
Quoted: And your point would be? Does that make up for supporting those that would strip you of your rights? What ratio makes it ok? 3 to 1? 10 to 1? So don't sit here and act like because someone has a (R) behind their name that they are on our side. 1. It benefits you if the candidate you donated to wins 2. It benefits you if the other candidate loses I've never said Republicans are perfect or always on our side. Democrats are not on our side, especially ones that push for gun restrictions. Surefire chose to support our opposition. |
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I see this whole issue got started with the benchmade thing the other day. Just to preface my response, I consider myself a very pro 2nd amendment supporter. I dont like the idea of surefire donating this money to a left wing politician. Just rumors now being thrown around is this politician that was donated to was up against Kamala Harris which I think by now everyone knows what her stance on 2A is. I will wait for a response from Surefire as well, but honestly, this doesnt surprise me. Theyre just greasing a politcian for their reasons. The ironic thing about all this is, everyone gets up in arms about benchmade, surefire, columbia clothing, nike..etc etc. But are some of your cell providers AT&T? Verizon? Thats to name a few in that industry? Do you pay cable to Comcast? Have you ever visited Disney and soend a oenny there? All companies that donate heavily to left wing politicians. Left wing corps in general. Is every single article of clothing we wear made in USA or in over seas sweatshops? Some of these American apparel type companies donate as well to these causes and no one bothers to care. What kind of vehicles do you drive? Chevy, Ford to name a few? I dont know what their particular political stance is but I know tons of people own theri products and theor products are made by employees who belong to UAW Unions. These very vehicles we purchase, the salaries of the very employess who manufacture them kick up union dues which then get rolled right back into left wing politicians and corps. I find this crap to be stupid quite honestly. |
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Check this one out @big_aug https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=&cycle=&state=&zip=&employ=midway+usa&cand= Quoted:
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Are there any companies that give a proud “fuck you” to the anti gun people while also not donating behind the scenes? Who is ACTUALLY for gun rights and has the backbone to say it and mean it? Who says I won’t give those gun grabbing sons of bitches a penny and really doesn’t? I want to buy their shit. https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=&cycle=&state=&zip=&employ=midway+usa&cand= Uncle Larry putting in money like a mother fucker. |
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Daaaayuuum. Uncle Larry putting in money like a mother fucker. Quoted:
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Are there any companies that give a proud “fuck you” to the anti gun people while also not donating behind the scenes? Who is ACTUALLY for gun rights and has the backbone to say it and mean it? Who says I won’t give those gun grabbing sons of bitches a penny and really doesn’t? I want to buy their shit. https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=&cycle=&state=&zip=&employ=midway+usa&cand= Uncle Larry putting in money like a mother fucker. |
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I find it hard to believe Glock doesn't pay European politicians... Quoted:
Quoted: Both are clean. As is Magpul. On the other hand, I won't be buying any 5.11 or Tactical Tailor stuff going forward. European companies don't report money given to European politicians to the US government. As dirty as Gaston is, I shudder to think what his politics are like. |
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I see this whole issue got started with the benchmade thing the other day. Just to preface my response, I consider myself a very pro 2nd amendment supporter. I dont like the idea of surefire donating this money to a left wing politician. Just rumors now being thrown around is this politician that was donated to was up against Kamala Harris which I think by now everyone knows what her stance on 2A is. I will wait for a response from Surefire as well, but honestly, this doesnt surprise me. Theyre just greasing a politcian for their reasons. The ironic thing about all this is, everyone gets up in arms about benchmade, surefire, columbia clothing, nike..etc etc. But are some of your cell providers AT&T? Verizon? Thats to name a few in that industry? Do you pay cable to Comcast? Have you ever visited Disney and soend a oenny there? All companies that donate heavily to left wing politicians. Left wing corps in general. Is every single article of clothing we wear made in USA or in over seas sweatshops? Some of these American apparel type companies donate as well to these causes and no one bothers to care. What kind of vehicles do you drive? Chevy, Ford to name a few? I dont know what their particular political stance is but I know tons of people own theri products and theor products are made by employees who belong to UAW Unions. These very vehicles we purchase, the salaries of the very employess who manufacture them kick up union dues which then get rolled right back into left wing politicians and corps. I find this crap to be stupid quite honestly. |
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Have you always been stupid and obtuse or is it a recent development? Quoted:
Quoted: I will take the Red Chinese over back stabbing money hungry companies any day. One of them has principles, whether you agree with them or not, the other will lie to your face and sell you out for a buck. Who cares where they are made as long as it is a good product. I switched from an F150 to aTitan HD since Nissan offers the engine I wanted, and ford played stupid games. Why the hell should I be "loyal" to someone who tells me to me face I cannot trust them? We need the guy in the Red suit meme "Give money to china" "Give money to American Company that will turn the USA socialist " You know you can do it also. Think for yourself I mean. ETA: im not saying I'm not for sale, but no one on this earth has what I want as payment for my soul. |
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Says the guy who financially supports his enemy? I mean if you have to resort to name calling then you already lost. I struck a nerve. You know you can do it also. Think for yourself I mean. ETA: im not saying I'm not for sale, but no one on this earth has what I want as payment for my soul. Quoted:
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Quoted: I will take the Red Chinese over back stabbing money hungry companies any day. One of them has principles, whether you agree with them or not, the other will lie to your face and sell you out for a buck. Who cares where they are made as long as it is a good product. I switched from an F150 to aTitan HD since Nissan offers the engine I wanted, and ford played stupid games. Why the hell should I be "loyal" to someone who tells me to me face I cannot trust them? We need the guy in the Red suit meme "Give money to china" "Give money to American Company that will turn the USA socialist " You know you can do it also. Think for yourself I mean. ETA: im not saying I'm not for sale, but no one on this earth has what I want as payment for my soul. Whatever tho. It's impossible to only buy items along ideological lines 100% of the time. |
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I see this whole issue got started with the benchmade thing the other day. Just to preface my response, I consider myself a very pro 2nd amendment supporter. I dont like the idea of surefire donating this money to a left wing politician. Just rumors now being thrown around is this politician that was donated to was up against Kamala Harris which I think by now everyone knows what her stance on 2A is. I will wait for a response from Surefire as well, but honestly, this doesnt surprise me. Theyre just greasing a politcian for their reasons. The ironic thing about all this is, everyone gets up in arms about benchmade, surefire, columbia clothing, nike..etc etc. But are some of your cell providers AT&T? Verizon? Thats to name a few in that industry? Do you pay cable to Comcast? Have you ever visited Disney and soend a oenny there? All companies that donate heavily to left wing politicians. Left wing corps in general. Is every single article of clothing we wear made in USA or in over seas sweatshops? Some of these American apparel type companies donate as well to these causes and no one bothers to care. What kind of vehicles do you drive? Chevy, Ford to name a few? I dont know what their particular political stance is but I know tons of people own theri products and theor products are made by employees who belong to UAW Unions. These very vehicles we purchase, the salaries of the very employess who manufacture them kick up union dues which then get rolled right back into left wing politicians and corps. I find this crap to be stupid quite honestly. That said, I fucking hate hypocrisy. If you sell hunting/tactical knives (Benchmade) , suppressors and weapon lights (Surefire), firearms parts (Troy), or firearms themselves (Dicks) your politics better be aligned. |
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Quoted: Says the guy who financially supports his enemy? I mean if you have to resort to name calling then you already lost. I struck a nerve. You know you can do it also. Think for yourself I mean. ETA: im not saying I'm not for sale, but no one on this earth has what I want as payment for my soul. |
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Quoted: It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese. Where do you think the emitters in the American commie lights come from? |
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You are literally advocating giving money directly to a communist nation that is more heavily invested in the destruction of this country than a business donating a few thousand dollars to shitty democrat politicians. How about you stop virtue signaling and think a little more. Quoted:
Quoted: Says the guy who financially supports his enemy? I mean if you have to resort to name calling then you already lost. I struck a nerve. You know you can do it also. Think for yourself I mean. ETA: im not saying I'm not for sale, but no one on this earth has what I want as payment for my soul. Do you still see commies behnd every tree, because I see democrats. And imho they are much worse. ETA: as far as I can tell China seems to doing pretty well for itself. Its not failing, falling apart, and you typed all that on a Chinese made whatever. |
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Quoted: Click To View Spoiler Whatever tho. It's impossible to only buy items along ideological lines 100% of the time. |
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I see this whole issue got started with the benchmade thing the other day. Just to preface my response, I consider myself a very pro 2nd amendment supporter. I dont like the idea of surefire donating this money to a left wing politician. Just rumors now being thrown around is this politician that was donated to was up against Kamala Harris which I think by now everyone knows what her stance on 2A is. I will wait for a response from Surefire as well, but honestly, this doesnt surprise me. Theyre just greasing a politcian for their reasons. The ironic thing about all this is, everyone gets up in arms about benchmade, surefire, columbia clothing, nike..etc etc. But are some of your cell providers AT&T? Verizon? Thats to name a few in that industry? Do you pay cable to Comcast? Have you ever visited Disney and soend a oenny there? All companies that donate heavily to left wing politicians. Left wing corps in general. Is every single article of clothing we wear made in USA or in over seas sweatshops? Some of these American apparel type companies donate as well to these causes and no one bothers to care. What kind of vehicles do you drive? Chevy, Ford to name a few? I dont know what their particular political stance is but I know tons of people own theri products and theor products are made by employees who belong to UAW Unions. These very vehicles we purchase, the salaries of the very employess who manufacture them kick up union dues which then get rolled right back into left wing politicians and corps. I find this crap to be stupid quite honestly. At this point, it's their response (or even lack of a response) that should tell whether they are friendly to the 2nd or not. If they don't respond, fuck them. If they double down on fucking stupid (like Troy did), fuck them. If they pull a bullshit excuse out of their ass like Benchmade tried to do, fuck them again. |
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Quoted: You are literally advocating giving money directly to a communist nation that is more heavily invested in the destruction of this country than a business donating a few thousand dollars to shitty democrat politicians. How about you stop virtue signaling and think a little more. He's seems making the statement that it is easier to defend against an honest enemy than a duplicitous friend. |
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Quoted: This, the companies who donate to the dems are the ones who have contracts and make their money that way. They'd care less if they offended you and you swore to never buy from them again, the gov. will keep them in business. Team Wendy is a good example. 
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@Casval214 He's seems making the statement that it is easier to defend against an honest enemy than a duplicitous friend. Quoted:
Quoted: You are literally advocating giving money directly to a communist nation that is more heavily invested in the destruction of this country than a business donating a few thousand dollars to shitty democrat politicians. How about you stop virtue signaling and think a little more. He's seems making the statement that it is easier to defend against an honest enemy than a duplicitous friend. |
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A MASTER LIST of this shit needs to be compiled, published, and GO VIRAL throughout the 2A community! Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge |
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Quoted: Do you doubt that they are? Please tell me how giving money to Chinese commies that actually want to destroy you is better than American commies.  Chinese have their own country, and they're an ocean away. Liberals are a few miles away, in my own state, and they have a small army of armed thugs they would love to let loose one people like me. So, yes, I would rather give money to the Chinese, than American companies that sponsor the destruction of the republic and free people. I also buy Mexican produce over Californian every time I'm at the grocery store. And I never spend money on products made in my own state, if they come from known leftist cities. You can downplay politics however you want, if it makes you sleep better. Don't expect to change one's mind though.
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She was a member of the House Armed Services Committee. They would have been stupid not to donate. For extra credit, go check which party held the chair during the years of these donations. |
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+1 so who do we have so far? Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge Quoted:
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A MASTER LIST of this shit needs to be compiled, published, and GO VIRAL throughout the 2A community! Troy Daniel defense Springfield armory Rock river arms X products Yeti Dicks Surefire L3 eotech Team wendy Benchmade Tactical tailor 5.11 London bridge Easily the worst company I have found in terms of funding the opposition. |
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Jesus Christ. These companies need to understand that if you sell stuff related to GUNS, the total amount of your donations to Democrats should be exactly zero. Quoted:
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Sadly I believe these donations are based off of ensuring important government contracts. Reps who play key roles on specific committees and are also part of caucuses that vote certain ways on certain issues or who represent specific end users. It is how the game is played. Notice, again, the people are not of concern. Quoted:
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/417747/789D568B-37AB-41CA-B23D-357577520DCC_png-853284.JPG Here is L3 aka Eotech. It is how the game is played. Notice, again, the people are not of concern. |
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Sadly I believe these donations are based off of ensuring important government contracts. Reps who play key roles on specific committees and are also part of caucuses that vote certain ways on certain issues or who represent specific end users. It is how the game is played. Notice, again, the people are not of concern. Quoted:
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/417747/789D568B-37AB-41CA-B23D-357577520DCC_png-853284.JPG Here is L3 aka Eotech. It is how the game is played. Notice, again, the people are not of concern. 2014 .- 3 recipients, 2 Republicans, 1 Democrat Committee on Financial Services Subcommittee on Insurance, Housing and Community Opportunity Subcommittee on International Monetary Policy and Trade (Chairman) Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure Committee on Armed Services (Chairman) As chair of the full committee, McKeon may serve as an ex officio member of all subcommittees. Even though he is the chairman of the Armed Services Committee, McKeon never served in the armed forces. Committee on Education and the Workforce Subcommittee on Higher Education and Workforce Training Committee on Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee on Strategic Forces (Ranking Member) Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities Committee on Homeland Security Subcommittee on Border and Maritime Security Subcommittee on Counterterrorism and Intelligence 2012 - 5 recipients, 4 Republicans, 1 Democrat Committee assignments: Same as 2014 *PLUS* Committee on Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on the Middle East and South Asia Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations (Chairman) Committee on Science, Space and Technology Subcommittee on Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee on Energy and Environment Committee on International Relations / Committee on Foreign Affairs Chair, Subcommittee on Western Hemisphere[40] Chair, Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific[41] Committee on Education and the Workforce[42][43] 2010 - 2 recipients, 1 D, 1 R Committee on Financial Services Subcommittee on Insurance, Housing and Community Opportunity Subcommittee on International Monetary Policy and Trade (Chairman) Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure Subcommittee on Highways and Transit Subcommittee on Railroads, Pipelines, and Hazardous Materials Subcommittee on Water Resources and Environment Committee on Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee on Strategic Forces (Ranking Member) Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities Committee on Homeland Security Subcommittee on Border and Maritime Security Subcommittee on Counterterrorism and Intelligence |
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After the Benchmade debacle I figured I'd poke around on some of the other brands I had assumed were pro 2A. Official PAC Name: THE SUREFIRE PAC Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708 Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG FEC Committee ID: C00464768 Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC) 2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010) 2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768) 2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014) 2018 - $500 to DNC Services Corp (here and here) Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009 111th Congress (2009-2010) https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324 H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 112th Congress (2011-2012) https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308 H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752 H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217 H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411 I’m not sure why a company that patented a 60 and 100rd AR mag would donate to people who are writing bills to ban them. I’d have to see their R support. Remember Benchmade was ALL D donations and NO conservative ones. |
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Could be bribe/sway money lol...somewhat seriously. I’m not sure why a company that patented a 60 and 100rd AR mag would donate to people who are writing bills to ban them. I’d have to see their R support. Remember Benchmade was ALL D donations and NO conservative ones. Quoted:
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After the Benchmade debacle I figured I'd poke around on some of the other brands I had assumed were pro 2A. Official PAC Name: THE SUREFIRE PAC Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708 Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG FEC Committee ID: C00464768 Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC) 2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010) 2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768) 2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014) 2018 - $500 to DNC Services Corp (here and here) Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009 111th Congress (2009-2010) https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324 H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 112th Congress (2011-2012) https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308 H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752 H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217 H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411 I’m not sure why a company that patented a 60 and 100rd AR mag would donate to people who are writing bills to ban them. I’d have to see their R support. Remember Benchmade was ALL D donations and NO conservative ones. The only politicians they supported are California representatives. This wasn't to get a .gov contract. They put their money where their left coast values are. |
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I think open secrets gets all of their stuff from federal reporting. European companies don't report money given to European politicians to the US government. As dirty as Gaston is, I shudder to think what his politics are like. Quoted:
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