[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Surefire campaign finance contributions... universal background checks and full capacity mag ban (Page 5 of 10)
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Quoted: This, the companies who donate to the dems are the ones who have contracts and make their money that way. They'd care less if they offended you and you swore to never buy from them again, the gov. will keep them in business. Team Wendy is a good example. Team wendy can go fuck a duck. As can any company that serves the firearms community that donates to the left. I do not need products enough to support the left. Donate to the left and I'm out. |
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No one ever believes me when I say it's harder to find companies in the outdoor/shooting/hunting space that don't donate to Ds (at a minimum, most are raving lunatics) than to find one that doesnt. I remember Remington cheering when GHWB passed his import ban in '89. Why did Remington cheer? Because they were losing market share to foreign imports. Bill Ruger and his infamous letter to ban magazines. Colt pulling out of the civilian market, focusing on smart gun tech, and wanting to deal solely with government sales. S&W dealing with Clinton's Administration and HUD. Daniel Defense's head honcho Marty Daniel supporting FixNICS. Springfield Armory and Rock River Armory forming their special PAC to get an exemption in Illinois. Ted Nugent's ammo company donating to Andrew Cuomo after passage of the SAFE Act. Richard Swan of ARMS donating to Martha Coakley. Etc, etc, etc, etc.... |
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Man, if and when this trend continues and some of ARF's go-to folks are named, this site will explode. 2002. $1000 to Bill Nelson (Democrat), donated by KNIGHT, C REED of Knights Armament Company. Please post pictures. |
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FWIW, I own a Scorpion, Stinger and Ultra Stinger. I've never had any problems, other than blown bulbs. My only beef with Streamlight is they don't make LED upgrade kits for their incandescent lights. But I know they make more money on people buying new lights versus selling upgrade kits for their older ones. Quoted:
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So surefire wont get any of my money now, streamlight seems to have questionable reliability. So who else is there to buy weapon lights from? My only beef with Streamlight is they don't make LED upgrade kits for their incandescent lights. But I know they make more money on people buying new lights versus selling upgrade kits for their older ones. @dreiwhit They have LED upgrades. |
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Works for me. Bring every single one of these companies that are run by traitorous fucks out into the light. I don't care if I'm stuck with one single manufacturer to shop with, I won't shop at places that give our money away to gun grabbers. Keep'em coming boys! Good job OP. |
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@surtrsfire 2002. $1000 to Bill Nelson (Democrat), donated by KNIGHT, C REED of Knights Armament Company. Please post pictures. Quoted:
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Man, if and when this trend continues and some of ARF's go-to folks are named, this site will explode. 2002. $1000 to Bill Nelson (Democrat), donated by KNIGHT, C REED of Knights Armament Company. Please post pictures. 
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Is there a common easy-to-access registry of companies helping the Leftist with anti-2nd ammendment agendas?
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After the Benchmade debacle I figured I'd poke around on some of the other brands I had assumed were pro 2A. Official PAC Name: THE SUREFIRE PAC Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708 Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG FEC Committee ID: C00464768 Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC) 2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010) 2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768) 2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014) 2018 - $500 to DNC Services Corp (here and here) Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009 111th Congress (2009-2010) https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324 H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 112th Congress (2011-2012) https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308 H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752 H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217 H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411 |
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Four donations over a 8 year period totally only $10k isn't much of anything.
While I don't agree with its hard to judge without all of the facts. Considering the make high cap mags, suppressors, weapon lights and a plethora of other pro-gun, mil and Leo grade gear and have no issues selling to the civilian population I'll give them a pass. |
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Is there a common easy-to-access registry of companies helping the Leftist with anti-2nd ammendment agendas? should have link that as a signature on all of our posts! Quoted:
Is there a common easy-to-access registry of companies helping the Leftist with anti-2nd ammendment agendas? should have link that as a signature on all of our posts! Quoted:
After the Benchmade debacle I figured I'd poke around on some of the other brands I had assumed were pro 2A. Official PAC Name: THE SUREFIRE PAC Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708 Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG FEC Committee ID: C00464768 Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC) 2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010) 2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768) 2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014) 2018 - $500 to DNC Services Corp (here and here) Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009 111th Congress (2009-2010) https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324 H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 112th Congress (2011-2012) https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308 H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752 H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217 H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411 |
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List companies you care about. Easy to check, just need company names. Quoted:
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Is there a common easy-to-access registry of companies helping the Leftist with anti-2nd ammendment agendas? should have link that as a signature on all of our posts! Quoted:
After the Benchmade debacle I figured I'd poke around on some of the other brands I had assumed were pro 2A. Official PAC Name: THE SUREFIRE PAC Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708 Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG FEC Committee ID: C00464768 Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC) 2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010) 2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768) 2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014) 2018 - $500 to DNC Services Corp (here and here) Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009 111th Congress (2009-2010) https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324 H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 112th Congress (2011-2012) https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308 H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752 H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217 H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411 Lou's Police Supply of Hialeah, FL |
| I would not trust surefire's integrity as a company. Their customer service department is the worst I have dealt with. They told me to send parts in for repair or replacement and they failed to return all of them. They claimed they did not receive all of them. I have written and called with no luck. Poor company. |
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Olight PL-2 I have two of these. And another somewhere I can't find. Awesome and rugged lights. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071ZN748G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://op1.0ps.us/365-240-ffffff/opplanet-olight-pl-2-valkyrie-led-pistol-light-picatinny-and-glock-rails-cree-xhp35-hi-cw-led-1-main.jpg My only worry is the throw lever seems a bit janky, which is why I put it on a pistol with shitty holster options. All my other stuff is Streamlight, with the exception of an old 6P I keep in the car. Like Benchmade I'll wait to see if Surefire addresses the donations to Sanchez - she's a cunt of high order, but they've a more mixed bag of donations so far. Greasing wheels with cash for contracts or access is a problem. So I'm watching to see what happens I guess. 
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So surefire wont get any of my money now, streamlight seems to have questionable reliability. So who else is there to buy weapon lights from? They need to jump on the 18650 master race tho. |
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Arisaka makes great stuff. They need to jump on the 18650 master race tho. Quoted:
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So surefire wont get any of my money now, streamlight seems to have questionable reliability. So who else is there to buy weapon lights from? They need to jump on the 18650 master race tho. |
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Inforce Elzetta O-light The don't have the same wide spread holster compatibility as Surefire and Streamlight, but you can still find holsters for them. Quoted:
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So surefire wont get any of my money now, streamlight seems to have questionable reliability. So who else is there to buy weapon lights from? Elzetta O-light The don't have the same wide spread holster compatibility as Surefire and Streamlight, but you can still find holsters for them. Yeah that sucks, I like my surefire lights |
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@Undefined Lou's Police Supply of Hialeah, FL Quoted:
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Is there a common easy-to-access registry of companies helping the Leftist with anti-2nd ammendment agendas? should have link that as a signature on all of our posts! Quoted:
After the Benchmade debacle I figured I'd poke around on some of the other brands I had assumed were pro 2A. Official PAC Name: THE SUREFIRE PAC Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708 Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG FEC Committee ID: C00464768 Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC) 2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010) 2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768) 2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014) 2018 - $500 to DNC Services Corp (here and here) Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009 111th Congress (2009-2010) https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324 H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 112th Congress (2011-2012) https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308 H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752 H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217 H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411 Lou's Police Supply of Hialeah, FL |
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Four donations over a 8 year period totally only $10k isn't much of anything. While I don't agree with its hard to judge without all of the facts. Considering the make high cap mags, suppressors, weapon lights and a plethora of other pro-gun, mil and Leo grade gear and have no issues selling to the civilian population I'll give them a pass. |
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Works for me. Bring every single one of these companies that are run by traitorous fucks out into the light. I don't care if I'm stuck with one single manufacturer to shop with, I won't shop at places that give our money away to gun grabbers. Keep'em coming boys! Good job OP. |
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Who's next? I've got 3 more to share shortly.  On the other hand, I won't be buying any 5.11 or Tactical Tailor stuff going forward. Committee on Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities Subcommittee on Readiness and Management Support Subcommittee on Strategic Forces (Chairman) Committee Now this makes sense as a legal way to bribe, but is it just certain politicians that require some grease for the wheel? TT has this as their only donation and they've been in business for many years before, and after Tactical Tailor is based out of Washington and the doner/owner apparently has residence in Idaho. So this seems to be the only thing that makes sense as to why he would donate to a Senator out of Colorado. |
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Let’s see the site sponsors donations all them. And every company/MFG that has an industry board on ARFCOM bet we have our own DU sub forum no one knows about.
Also just for fun: Amazon. I can guess their leanings, i’m More interested in seeing the total and which side of the aisle is favored. They paid zero in taxes that means they must give a ton of money away creating tax breaks. ETA- read through the shit grammar I’ve given up fighting fat fingers and auto correct on my i-tater. Also do Apple. |
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Quoted: The suspense is terrible. I hope it lasts.  The suspense is terrible! I hope it will last... |
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While I'm certain that the situations surrounding these donations to Communists are highly complex, and make sense to the companies at some level, it seems a bit underhanded to take money from a segment of the population that would be most directly affected by the legislation crafted and implemented as a result.
Our side is far more tolerant of political differences than the Communists, and many here will excuse or rationalize such behavior as a natural side effect of doing business with government agencies, which is not entirely without merit. However, if we continue to remain tolerant, and don't hold our vendors' feet to the fire over their support for things we disagree with, I fear that our days as an effective opinion bloc are numbered. As much as it nauseates me to say so, we need to take pages from the Communist playbook and use them to gain back the ground we have lost over the last 50 years. We've become a country where the natural inclination is to petition the government for permission to pay money and jump through hoops to exercise rights that every criminal gets for free. It didn't used to be that way, and it makes me sick to see gun owners across the country nitpicking and discussing every minute subsection of the law in order to determine if we are ALLOWED this or that, rather than simply exercising our rights as enumerated in our Constitution. The companies we buy from need to be aware of the fact that it's OUR money they're trying to make, even from the government. |
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Let’s see the site sponsors donations all them. And every company/MFG that has an industry board on ARFCOM bet we have our own DU sub forum no one knows about. BCHA is run by gun grabbers who have funneled a lot of money to gun grabbers and socialists. |
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It really isn't that surprising to see a number of gun companies donate to anti-gun politicians. The reason why is because they are in it for government contracts. That is their bread and butter. The idea of there being an industry that only caters to the civilian Market doesn't mean a large profit margin for them since politically there is a constant attack on that industry. Even the NSSF, which is the representative lobbying group for the Firearms industry has openly and actively supported the bump stock ban and even backs Universal background checks. In the past they stated they would not do any business in a city that is anti-gun. But now with Las Vegas and Nevada becoming anti-gun due to recent elections they have backtracked on that statement and are stating that they are staying in Las Vegas for future shows. Money is a very powerful corrupting tool. Quoted:
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Wow. It really is amazing how many gun stuff companies are donating to anti gun people. Makes you really wonder, doesn't it? I have one surefire product and I'll keep it, but I'm not going to buy anything else from them. Been spreading the word around about benchmade, will spread the word about surefire. I am my friend's gun/knife nerd and they do listen to me a lot when they ask what they should buy.....and they are educated about the perils of leftist agenda (and pissed about it). Even the NSSF, which is the representative lobbying group for the Firearms industry has openly and actively supported the bump stock ban and even backs Universal background checks. In the past they stated they would not do any business in a city that is anti-gun. But now with Las Vegas and Nevada becoming anti-gun due to recent elections they have backtracked on that statement and are stating that they are staying in Las Vegas for future shows. Money is a very powerful corrupting tool. |
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We will shoot the marxists with the weapons they sold us? I figure everyone is hostile to us or will sell us out for money, tbh. $$$$ > principles |
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I’m curious as to how many in this thread are posting from iPhones or Mac devices? What about Samsung? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/290440/221A88E6-FBAD-4B93-878C-D21175F199C4_jpeg-853662.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/290440/2A3A0C07-2CE9-4E4C-8A75-87A8A9DC11B9_png-853670.JPG
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Surefire has also donated to more Republicans than Democrats, now that I'm actually looking at their donation list. |