[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Surefire Campaign Donations, Take #2 - Magazine Bans & UBC - Now with Jerry Brown donations! (Page 2 of 3)
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You know what the fun part is? Any of the dems that received funds from pro-gun sources should be outed to the liberal side too....heads exploding ROFL. It'll be interesting to see if AOC, Waters, etc received funding from firearms industry folks.....lol. Giving her money likely counts as charity, like giving the other millennial bums near the interstate money. |
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You know what the fun part is? Any of the dems that received funds from pro-gun sources should be outed to the liberal side too....heads exploding ROFL. It'll be interesting to see if AOC, Waters, etc received funding from firearms industry folks.....lol. |
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LOL....we sold you out because we want .mil contracts, and uncle sugar money. They did the opposite of bitchmade, and straight up owned that shit like a boss. This sucks too, I feel Scout lights are the best, and just a bought a new one a few weeks back. I'm done now though. No true 2A gun company would give money to any DEM....prove me wrong! Add a Malkoff head and give a surefire a big fuck you!!!! |
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Ding ding ding. I exclusively use surefire. Quoted:
Quoted: Did you vote for Trump? He gave money to Dems... It was justified though...just a part of doing business...right? I exclusively use surefire. Trump is completely imperfect. National politics in this country ARE A BINARY CHOICE. 2016 was Trump or HRC. Spending my money is hardly EVER a binary choice. I’ll spend it with businesses that share my views and my politics. Fuck surefire Fuck Benchmade |
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The logic(or lack of) of these companies contributing money the democrats who would put them out of business is mind boggling. You'd think these dumbasses would contribute to republicans who would fight for them instead of basically trying to bribe those who are against them. 
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It was almost a decade ago, they market suppressors and high cap mags to civilians, they donated more to Republicans, and they make fantastic products. I'll keep buying Surefire. I voted for Trump and he donated to Democrats. What the fuck ever. At least they admitted they were trying to grease hands to get contracts, they owned it. |
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The logic(or lack of) of these companies contributing money the democrats who would put them out of business is mind boggling. You'd think these dumbasses would contribute to republicans who would fight for them instead of basically trying to bribe those who are against them. 
Also, wanna know why Hillary won’t be brought down... THEY ALL Participate in the bull shit. The modern US government is nothing more than a sham. |
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Their response on Facebook is a bunch of wishy washy convoluted bullshit. And... the more of these apology posts I read, the less I think these companies actually give a fuck about the civilian market. They don't care if the 2A gets harpooned because they are selling to military and police anyway. |
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It was almost a decade ago, they market suppressors and high cap mags to civilians, they donated more to Republicans, and they make fantastic products. I'll keep buying Surefire. I voted for Trump and he donated to Democrats. What the fuck ever. At least they admitted they were trying to grease hands to get contracts, they owned it. @Number0neGun go back and check again. They gave $2200 one YEAR ago to one of the worst antigun politicians in California.... a year before that they gave him another $2200. And $10k to Jerry Brown (aka Moonbeam) |
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A decade ago? @Number0neGun go back and check again. They gave $2200 one YEAR ago to one of the worst antigun politicians in California.... a year before that they gave him another $2200. And $10k to Jerry Brown (aka Moonbeam) Quoted:
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It was almost a decade ago, they market suppressors and high cap mags to civilians, they donated more to Republicans, and they make fantastic products. I'll keep buying Surefire. I voted for Trump and he donated to Democrats. What the fuck ever. At least they admitted they were trying to grease hands to get contracts, they owned it. @Number0neGun go back and check again. They gave $2200 one YEAR ago to one of the worst antigun politicians in California.... a year before that they gave him another $2200. And $10k to Jerry Brown (aka Moonbeam) 
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You know what the fun part is? Any of the dems that received funds from pro-gun sources should be outed to the liberal side too....heads exploding ROFL. It'll be interesting to see if AOC, Waters, etc received funding from firearms industry folks.....lol. Surefire said their bribes didnt even work Free money for the DNCers |
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Has the NRA ever endorsed Jerry Brown with their bull shit rating system? I know, sucks I even have to ask Quoted:
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It was almost a decade ago, they market suppressors and high cap mags to civilians, they donated more to Republicans, and they make fantastic products. I'll keep buying Surefire. I voted for Trump and he donated to Democrats. What the fuck ever. At least they admitted they were trying to grease hands to get contracts, they owned it. @Number0neGun go back and check again. They gave $2200 one YEAR ago to one of the worst antigun politicians in California.... a year before that they gave him another $2200. And $10k to Jerry Brown (aka Moonbeam) "As the Chair of Public Safety, I will continue to fight for the innocent victims of gun violence, despite organizations such as the Firearms Policy Coalition labeling me as a Tyrant." https://a59.asmdc.org/press-releases/assemblymember-jones-sawyer-sr-vows-protect-all-californians-gun-violence |
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AOC isn't high enough on the food chain to bribe. Giving her money likely counts as charity, like giving the other millennial bums near the interstate money. Quoted:
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You know what the fun part is? Any of the dems that received funds from pro-gun sources should be outed to the liberal side too....heads exploding ROFL. It'll be interesting to see if AOC, Waters, etc received funding from firearms industry folks.....lol. Giving her money likely counts as charity, like giving the other millennial bums near the interstate money. Also, doubtful that their fellow leftists would give anything but high-fives & congrats if they found out $ was contributed by a 2A type company. That is probably stuff they brag about to each other... |
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Well we better all run out and buy some more Chinese government owned trinket shit now!!!! While I am not condoning their actions, I suspect most here happily buy Chinese junk, so they can save a few dollars. Surefire vs. Chinese defense industry?
Of course China will support the 2A once they rule our land right? |
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I did, twice. Not seeing the individual donations. Quoted:
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Who’s the employee that donates to Dems? Out of those that donated to the PAC, we have.... John Matthews - Founder of of Newport Corporation, which is now known as Surefire Joel Smith - Chief Administrative Officer at Surefire Gustav Bonse - Chief Operating Officer at Surefire Sean Vo - Chief Financial Officer at Surefire Matthew Hemenez - Vice President of Marketing, Sales, and Product Management at Surefire Jennifer Curlee - Director, Information Technology at Surefire |
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I'll post the links to the individual donations later, a little busy at the moment. The donations to the PAC (which gave to Sanchez) came from the following persons Out of those that donated to the PAC, we have.... John Matthews - Founder of of Newport Corporation, which is now known as Surefire Joel Smith - Chief Administrative Officer at Surefire Gustav Bonse - Chief Operating Officer at Surefire Sean Vo - Chief Financial Officer at Surefire Matthew Hemenez - Vice President of Marketing, Sales, and Product Management at Surefire Jennifer Curlee - Director, Information Technology at Surefire Quoted:
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Who’s the employee that donates to Dems? Out of those that donated to the PAC, we have.... John Matthews - Founder of of Newport Corporation, which is now known as Surefire Joel Smith - Chief Administrative Officer at Surefire Gustav Bonse - Chief Operating Officer at Surefire Sean Vo - Chief Financial Officer at Surefire Matthew Hemenez - Vice President of Marketing, Sales, and Product Management at Surefire Jennifer Curlee - Director, Information Technology at Surefire |
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Quoted: Because she had no chance at actually winning? If you are looking to expand your business then you try to get into the back pocket of those politicians who can and will affect your livelihood. Goes to: Why do we allow commercial/corporate donations AT ALL? Have you read up on how Planned Parenthood gets money from Congress, then donates it back to candidate who further their business goals? The problem is a lack of oversight. I don't see the California Teachers Union selling off their Remington stock - did that happen yet? They had a massive awakening, too, but considering the loss they would suffer selling off, there was no immediate dump. Politics - and the reality is too many blow it off, so we get what we are discussing right now. And then people gripe about the results. How about you care and work for those candidates who DO need support instead of bitching about how a company has to pad the pockets of our enemies to stay in business? Or - make corporate donations illegal completely? Why do we think they NEED money in the first place? In before the apologists who defend this kind of corrupt money laundering. |
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Thanks, man. I tried searching their names before asking you and couldn’t find anything. Quoted:
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Who’s the employee that donates to Dems? Out of those that donated to the PAC, we have.... John Matthews - Founder of of Newport Corporation, which is now known as Surefire Joel Smith - Chief Administrative Officer at Surefire Gustav Bonse - Chief Operating Officer at Surefire Sean Vo - Chief Financial Officer at Surefire Matthew Hemenez - Vice President of Marketing, Sales, and Product Management at Surefire Jennifer Curlee - Director, Information Technology at Surefire There are two different entities to explore here. The Surefire PAC (2010 - 2014) was created as a means to "to gain the support and assistance of our state representatives (both Democrat and Republican) so that we had a chance at (1) obtaining congressional funding to develop sighting technology that would improve the warfighter’s ability to aim crew-served weapons, and (2) to be able to reach out to our representatives when we need assistance doing business in California." (According to John Matthews, Founder and President of Surefire LLC, as posted on Facebook here) and was funded by the list of individuals I provided. I am copying that list again below: John Matthews - Founder of of Newport Corporation, which is now known as Surefire Joel Smith - Chief Administrative Officer at Surefire Gustav Bonse - Chief Operating Officer at Surefire Sean Vo - Chief Financial Officer at Surefire Matthew Hemenez - Vice President of Marketing, Sales, and Product Management at Surefire Jennifer Curlee - Director, Information Technology at Surefire Individual donations to the PAC are as follows: Money to PACsHEMENEZ, MATTHEW LAKE FOREST, CA 92630SUREFIRE02-24-2010$250.00SureFire LLC Money to PACsMATTHEWS, JOHN W NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660SUREFIRE02-24-2010$5,000.00SureFire LLC Money to PACsCURLEE, JENNIFER NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92663SUREFIRE06-10-2010$500.00SureFire LLC Money to PACsVO, SEAN IRVINE, CA 92602SUREFIRE07-31-2010$200.00SureFire LLC Money to PACsSMITH, JOEL D HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA 92649SUREFIRE02-16-2010$2,000.00SureFire LLC Money to PACsBONSE, GUSTAV HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA 92648SUREFIRE02-24-2010$5,000.00SureFire LLC The Surefire PAC then made the donations to Loretta Sanchez. This is because companies could not legally donate directly to candidates, but could donate to PACs. The other donations, those at the state level, were made directly from Surefire LLC and not funneled through a PAC. 
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Quoted: @jefflebowski There are two different entities to explore here. The Surefire PAC (2010 - 2014) was created as a means to "to gain the support and assistance of our state representatives (both Democrat and Republican) so that we had a chance at (1) obtaining congressional funding to develop sighting technology that would improve the warfighter’s ability to aim crew-served weapons, and (2) to be able to reach out to our representatives when we need assistance doing business in California." (According to John Matthews, Founder and President of Surefire LLC, as posted on Facebook here) and was funded by the list of individuals I provided. I am copying that list again below: John Matthews - Founder of of Newport Corporation, which is now known as Surefire Joel Smith - Chief Administrative Officer at Surefire Gustav Bonse - Chief Operating Officer at Surefire Sean Vo - Chief Financial Officer at Surefire Matthew Hemenez - Vice President of Marketing, Sales, and Product Management at Surefire Jennifer Curlee - Director, Information Technology at Surefire Individual donations to the PAC are as follows: Money to PACsHEMENEZ, MATTHEW LAKE FOREST, CA 92630SUREFIRE02-24-2010$250.00SureFire LLC Money to PACsMATTHEWS, JOHN W NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660SUREFIRE02-24-2010$5,000.00SureFire LLC Money to PACsCURLEE, JENNIFER NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92663SUREFIRE06-10-2010$500.00SureFire LLC Money to PACsVO, SEAN IRVINE, CA 92602SUREFIRE07-31-2010$200.00SureFire LLC Money to PACsSMITH, JOEL D HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA 92649SUREFIRE02-16-2010$2,000.00SureFire LLC Money to PACsBONSE, GUSTAV HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA 92648SUREFIRE02-24-2010$5,000.00SureFire LLC The Surefire PAC then made the donations to Loretta Sanchez. This is because companies could not legally donate directly to candidates, but could donate to PACs. The other donations, those at the state level, were made directly from Surefire LLC and not funneled through a PAC. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-02-24_at_7_25_12_PM-857115.png https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-02-24_at_7_35_22_PM-857135.png https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-02-24_at_7_25_20_PM-857116.png https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-02-24_at_7_35_51_PM-857134.png |
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Their response makes sense to me. I don't love it but that's the reality of our system. Personally if they donated a dollar to some asshole to get funding, 2 or 3 dollars to someone hard core like Saf or Ted Cruz would have been indicative of their intent, but I understand their statement |
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Their response makes sense to me. I don't love it but that's the reality of our system. Personally if they donated a dollar to some asshole to get funding, 2 or 3 dollars to someone hard core like Saf or Ted Cruz would have been indicative of their intent, but I understand their statement They responded to their contributions to candidates for federal office... not to state office. |
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F---- Surefire! Streamlight, Zebralight, Olight, and I'm sure others are just as good. Companies that support anti-gun policies and other leftist shit need to know there's a price to pay for it. |
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All of those companies are made in China. How in the hell is a Chinese company more pro-2a than a USA company. Have you been keeping up with world events recently? China was a likely financial player in the rise of Obama. Sorry, surefire is pretty much the only game if you want to support USA over foreign adversaries. The fact that some of them donated some small money to adversarial political parties is not as important as outright support of hostile communist nation states basically at war with our country. Quoted:
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F---- Surefire! Streamlight, Zebralight, Olight, and I'm sure others are just as good. Companies that support anti-gun policies and other leftist shit need to know there's a price to pay for it. |
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Quoted: All of those companies are made in China. How in the hell is a Chinese company more pro-2a than a USA company. Have you been keeping up with world events recently? China was a likely financial player in the rise of Obama. Sorry, surefire is pretty much the only game if you want to support USA over foreign adversaries. The fact that some of them donated some small money to adversarial political parties is not as important as outright support of hostile communist nation states basically at war with our country. |
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There are some American made alternatives. As far as I know Elzetta does not finance anti gun politicians and they make great lights. Quoted:
Quoted: All of those companies are made in China. How in the hell is a Chinese company more pro-2a than a USA company. Have you been keeping up with world events recently? China was a likely financial player in the rise of Obama. Sorry, surefire is pretty much the only game if you want to support USA over foreign adversaries. The fact that some of them donated some small money to adversarial political parties is not as important as outright support of hostile communist nation states basically at war with our country. |
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Seeing as how some individuals decided to get the previous thread locked, here is the information again. Official PAC Name: THE SUREFIRE PAC Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708 Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG FEC Committee ID: C00464768 Out of those that donated to the PAC, we have.... John Matthews - Founder of of Newport Corporation, which is now known as Surefire Joel Smith - Chief Administrative Officer at Surefire Gustav Bonse - Chief Operating Officer at Surefire Sean Vo - Chief Financial Officer at Surefire Matthew Hemenez - Vice President of Marketing, Sales, and Product Management at Surefire Jennifer Curlee - Director, Information Technology at Surefire Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC) 2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010) 2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768) 2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014) Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009 111th Congress (2009-2010) https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324 H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 112th Congress (2011-2012) https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308 H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752 H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217 H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015 114th Congress (2015-2016) https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411 UPDATE: Surefire has posted the following response on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/SureFire/posts/2493085487387686?__tn__=K-R Dear Customers and Concerned Citizens: It has been brought to our attention that past political donations from the SureFire Political Action Committee (PAC) have been called in to question along with SureFire's stance on the Second Amendment. Before we get to the facts we'd like to thank you for your support and we sincerely appreciate your loyalty. It's a long read but the details should provide a fuller perspective: Established in 2010 and disbanded in 2014, the purpose of the SureFire PAC was to gain the support and assistance of our state representatives (both Democrat and Republican) so that we had a chance at (1) obtaining congressional funding to develop sighting technology that would improve the warfighter's ability to aim crew-served weapons, and (2) to be able to reach out to our representatives when we need assistance doing business in California. During its existence from 2010 to 2014 the SureFire PAC made donations totaling approximately $10,356 to Democrat representatives and $16,610 to Republican representatives. It should be noted that we were unsuccessful in obtaining congressional funding for the weapon-sight development project mentioned above, and that all of our product development has been self-funded. But if you are a defense business that hopes to get congressional budget earmarked funding and/or program support for defense-related projects, you typically need to get the attention and support of at least one of your state representativesor all of them if possibleso they can "represent" your interests during the budget appropriations process. This is how business is done in the defense industry, by most medium-sized defense manufacturers, and by all of the large ones. And, it's what we needed to do to achieve our mission of ensuring the safety, success and survival of our customerswhether military, law enforcement, or patriot-citizen. In 2018 one of our employees donated $500 to the DNC Services Corp, a pro-Democrat organization. This was a personal donation, had nothing to do with SureFire, and despite the fact that we, as a company, are not aligned with his political preferences, we recognize his right to think differently and to vote as he pleases. SureFire (as an organization) is 2A to the core. I myself am an NRA Lifetime Endowment member; our VP of Suppressors and Weapons is a veteran and world-class competitive shooter; our VP of Sales and Marketing is a veteran and competitive shooter; our VP of Military Sales gave 21 years to his country, 18 of them as an Army Special Operations commando; our graphic designers practice dry-firing and handgun drills in the office; our team-building events usually involve shooting; many of our executives and employees are concealed carry permit holders and carry daily. Most of us worry about how to live our 2A lives without running afoul of so-called "assault rifle" laws, reduced-capacity magazine regulations, and all the other restrictions we deal with as firearms owners, and as a manufacturer of firearms and firearms accessories in California. We also support organizations such as the National Rifle Association, American Suppressor Association, and the National Shooting Sports Foundation, among others, and are proud of our long history of sponsoring USPSA, IDPA, 3-Gun and other shooting sports. Come by our office and you'll see we share the same values as you do when it comes to the freedom to bear arms. Our focus is on providing the warfighter, first responder, and armed citizen with the tools they need to win the fight, and we promise to keep making products that support the Second Amendment, the American worker, our economy, our military, and freedom in general. John Matthews Founder & President UPDATE 2: STATE LEVEL How about some state level Democrat donations? Is Governor Jerry Brown a friend of the 2nd Amendment? http://powersearch.sos.ca.gov/advanced.php https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-02-24_at_7_25_12_PM-857115.png https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-02-24_at_7_35_22_PM-857135.png More state level donations: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-02-24_at_7_25_20_PM-857116.png https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284225/Screen_Shot_2019-02-24_at_7_35_51_PM-857134.png Where exactly is surefire located? If it is Kalifornistan they're paying money to have a shot. As much as it sucks, if you want a Democrat to let your business succeed, you're going to have to give them money. Simple as that. Surefire should have moved to Texas or a freedom state, but that's beside the point. |
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Pay to play people. We’re you living under a rock? She was the wheel to grease at the time. There are absolutely no excuses for supporting the enemy, ever. None. There are options these companies are voluntarily choosing not to exercise, like moving to a free state, which they would do if their principles really were the priority. |
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Quoted: Democrats? Ya gotta pay to play. Where exactly is surefire located? If it is Kalifornistan they're paying money to have a shot. As much as it sucks, if you want a Democrat to let your business succeed, you're going to have to give them money. Simple as that. Surefire should have moved to Texas or a freedom state, but that's beside the point. the sooner gun companies realize they need to boycott those places in order to survive, the better. Stop doing business with them (their LEO institutions) and force them to live under their own policies. "pay to play" get's no pass from me. |