[ARCHIVED THREAD] - SIG can't get a break. Another one! (Page 2 of 4)
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Well to be fair, sooner or later the mag runs empty. Unless the Sig learns to reload itself. 
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| Really not accurate to say her hand was "no where near the gun". You can clearly see when she's taking the backpack off that the gun fires when she just barely brushed the back of the gun, right around the mag well. You can't go blaming Sig or the 320 when there was incidental contact with the back of the gun. Any gun that says Sig 320 on it would discharge under those conditions. |
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Quoted: I feel for them, and really do wish for their continued success. However, howabout we switch gears and outfit the .mil with some S&W M&P love?  |
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Quoted: I hope she sues the department for issuing a known piece of shit. Attached File |
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Quoted: As a Machinist and Mechanical Engineer. These guns go off by themselves because they use a pre cocked striker making the trigger pull lighter and dont have enough sear engagement and just jiggling the damn thing makes it go off. There is a reason Glock pistols are so safe. They require a long trigger pull to physcially pull back the striker to a designated point building up enough spring tension to fire the primer. These P320s I said from the beginning are going to be a problem. Some General at the Pentagon got kick backs from SIG to adopt this garbage pistol. Could something as simple as jumping over a fence and sudden jarring as you land on your feet? |
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Her backpack must be haunted by a poltergeist. It is the only thing that makes sense. (Sig’s next press release?) Anyhow- yeah a fucking pistol should be able to handle some serious jarring, even more so one made for LE and MIL use. Being brushed by a backpack…geez. I wonder if they just don’t have any way to make it both drop safe and to have improved sear engagement. I would personally only buy the old school ones- preferably marked “made in West Germany”. Those were tanks. |
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Quoted: As a Machinist and Mechanical Engineer. These guns go off by themselves because they use a pre cocked striker making the trigger pull lighter and dont have enough sear engagement and just jiggling the damn thing makes it go off. There is a reason Glock pistols are so safe. They require a long trigger pull to physcially pull back the striker to a designated point building up enough spring tension to fire the primer. These P320s I said from the beginning are going to be a problem. Some General at the Pentagon got kick backs from SIG to adopt this garbage pistol. Knock it off -Skg Go take a P320 and jar it, smack it, drop it, do everything you can to make the striker slip. Be sure to film it and share it. If you can get it to slip, you can show everyone the exact conditions. If it could be done, someone would've shown it already. Additionally, your genius engineering mind is forgetting about the striker safety that moves in the opposite direction needed for the sear to slip. Looks to me like she probably jammed the pistol down. It would bet she had a foreign object stuck in the holster, it would push the pistol down against it, pulling the trigger. |
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Quoted: Edited Go take a P320 and jar it, smack it, drop it, do everything you can to make the striker slip. Be sure to film it and share it. If you can get it to slip, you can show everyone the exact conditions. If it could be done, someone would've shown it already. Additionally, your genius engineering mind is forgetting about the striker safety that moves in the opposite direction needed for the sear to slip. Looks to me like she probably jammed the pistol down. It would bet she had a foreign object stuck in the holster, it would push the pistol down against it, pulling the trigger. I didn't know DJ Shipley had an account here! |
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Quoted: Really not accurate to say her hand was "no where near the gun". You can clearly see when she's taking the backpack off that the gun fires when she just barely brushed the back of the gun, right around the mag well. You can't go blaming Sig or the 320 when there was incidental contact with the back of the gun. Any gun that says Sig 320 on it would discharge under those conditions. Are you seriously saying that it’s acceptable for a pistol to discharge if something brushes against the butt of the grip while holstered? |
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Quoted: Edited Go take a P320 and jar it, smack it, drop it, do everything you can to make the striker slip. Be sure to film it and share it. If you can get it to slip, you can show everyone the exact conditions. If it could be done, someone would've shown it already. Additionally, your genius engineering mind is forgetting about the striker safety that moves in the opposite direction needed for the sear to slip. Looks to me like she probably jammed the pistol down. It would bet she had a foreign object stuck in the holster, it would push the pistol down against it, pulling the trigger. How many videos of this failure do you need? Lots of videos of the 320 going bang without touching the trigger.  Drop test a sig p320 yes it goes BANG!! 1st time on carpet! |
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Quoted: How many videos of this failure do you need? Lots of videos of the 320 going bang without touching the trigger.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsljmVh-GFQQuoted: Quoted: Edited Go take a P320 and jar it, smack it, drop it, do everything you can to make the striker slip. Be sure to film it and share it. If you can get it to slip, you can show everyone the exact conditions. If it could be done, someone would've shown it already. Additionally, your genius engineering mind is forgetting about the striker safety that moves in the opposite direction needed for the sear to slip. Looks to me like she probably jammed the pistol down. It would bet she had a foreign object stuck in the holster, it would push the pistol down against it, pulling the trigger. How many videos of this failure do you need? Lots of videos of the 320 going bang without touching the trigger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsljmVh-GFQOf course that "test" was done on carpet. What the video conveniently doesn't show is likely a strand of carpet fiber wrapping around the trigger to fire the gun. |
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I've traded my barely used 2022 vintage 320 Carry in for another S&W revolver... and I will stick to w my Sig 229 Elite. Though... I did buy a S&W M&P 2.0 Compact 3.6in and am loving it. I might be going all S&W sooner than I think (EDC/CCW, combat gun, and revolvers... oh those wonderful revolvers from a more civilized time, etc.) Sig has a problem with their 320. If they want to save the platform they need to redesign the mechanical safeties in the gun because what it currently has is not working. S&W's M&P 2.0 seems to be top dog in the striker fired world at the moment... |
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Quoted: I've traded my barely used 2022 vintage 320 Carry in for another S&W revolver... and I will stick to w my Sig 229 Elite. Though... I did buy a S&W M&P 2.0 Compact 3.6in and am loving it. I might be going all S&W sooner than I think (EDC/CCW, combat gun, and revolvers... oh those wonderful revolvers from a more civilized time, etc.) Sig has a problem with their 320. If they want to save the platform they need to redesign the mechanical safeties in the gun because what it currently has is not working. S&W's M&P 2.0 seems to be top dog in the striker fired world at the moment... The 380 is great, she just couldn't hit the mag release without breaking her grip. Otherwise it's a nice pistol. Accurate good looking, the 9mm is a performance center and shoots great, looks nice, just doesn't work. I've had some other m and p that were okay. I don't know |
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Quoted: Don't forget their heavy ass rifle that the military says won the trials, though you can't find anyone who has carried or fired one and actually thinks it's a good replacement. Sig DEFFINATELY paid off some .mil people, hoping it wouldn't come back and bite them. The person who accepted the XM-7 (now officially the M-7) was Brig. Gen. Larry Q. Burris, the Soldier Lethality Cross-Functional Team director. Maybe we need to see where the good general ends up after his retirement. Seriously, a 13" barreled rifle that weighs over 13 lbs empty? And a combat load out down to just 140 rounds instead of 210? An optic system that was reported to have a lot of issues? Someone needs to get the general on the field and make him hump that bitch.... Either way, if what SIG says is happening with the P320, you'd think there would be plenty of other ND's with other similar guns for the same reasons...but there ain't. It saddens me to see a formally reputable company do something like this. It's corporate suicide. |
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Quoted: Edited Go take a P320 and jar it, smack it, drop it, do everything you can to make the striker slip. Be sure to film it and share it. If you can get it to slip, you can show everyone the exact conditions. If it could be done, someone would've shown it already. Additionally, your genius engineering mind is forgetting about the striker safety that moves in the opposite direction needed for the sear to slip. Looks to me like she probably jammed the pistol down. It would bet she had a foreign object stuck in the holster, it would push the pistol down against it, pulling the trigger. Oh yeah? Well my buddy said that he talked to a SIG engineer at 31 flavors who said that they were super serious this time because it definitely ND's today. |