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4/15/2024 8:06:21 AM EDT
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Are there still people who don't think the government lied about COVID?
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Probably someone from CA...
4/15/2024 8:31:24 AM EDT
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"'They' hate Trump so much they designed and unleashed a virus to kill millions and destroy the economy."

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LOL

At least you are consistent.
4/15/2024 8:58:40 AM EDT
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"'They' hate Trump so much they designed and unleashed a virus to kill millions and destroy the economy."

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LOL

At least you are consistent.


His post is valid.

There are people here who believe some wild crazy shit.

Trump is going to save the world and Q anon is his prophet.
4/15/2024 9:07:59 AM EDT
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Yup, this society has deformed back into the middle ages where religion,  in this case nwo and wokism, control the.social and scientific constructs. We have moved well beyond reality based decision making. Unfortunately for all, reality does not change and is a true constant.
4/15/2024 9:12:26 AM EDT
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Covid killed my 16 year old business. I hate the feds and that fuck newsom. It was all by design. They wanted to bring down Trump.


"'They' hate Trump so much they designed and unleashed a virus to kill millions and destroy the economy."

People actually believe this stuff?

yes. saw a recent documentary about sandy hook and alex jones. dunno if it was true but they claimed 20 to 30 million people believe sandy hook didnt happen and all the 'parents' where crisis actors.

its hard to believe sometimes but large numbers of people believe all kinds of wacko conspiracy theories.

was the virus lab grown? i think it was. was the us involved somehow in partnership with labs doing corona virus studies including 'gain-of-function'? this is believable at least. did the government make 'mis-steps' in handling the situation? yes. was it all a plan to get rid of trump? no. but folks have bought into the various conspiracy theories because it fits their emotional involvement in political theater.
4/15/2024 9:22:02 AM EDT
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yes. saw a recent documentary about sandy hook and alex jones. dunno if it was true but they claimed 20 to 30 million people believe sandy hook didnt happen and all the 'parents' where crisis actors.

its hard to believe sometimes but large numbers of people believe all kinds of wacko conspiracy theories.

was the virus lab grown? i think it was. was the us involved somehow in partnership with labs doing corona virus studies including 'gain-of-function'? this is believable at least. did the government make 'mis-steps' in handling the situation? yes. was it all a plan to get rid of trump? no. but folks have bought into the various conspiracy theories because it fits their emotional involvement in political theater.
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This is where the truth is often too complex and nuanced for the average mouth breather on either side to decode.

Lab created?  Yes
Accidental release? Likely
China intentionally covering it up and allowing it to spread?  Likely due to incompetence more than anything
US funding the research? Yes.
Putting the people that funded it in charge of the response? Yes, and they covered their own ass while doing no favors to Trump.
Did democrats take wild political advantage of the situation in 2020? Absolutely.
Was it all a multi-year plot from the beggining to influence an election?  There is no evidence of that so far.

If you jump to the last point it sounds ridiculous, but everything up to that is pretty solid.
4/15/2024 9:24:37 AM EDT
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I thought the covid lie was self evident at this point.
4/15/2024 9:30:40 AM EDT
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Not politics - ideology.
Today's politics more than ever in recent decades in western countries  are mostly ideology: the most toxic form of reality twisting and false projection the mind can conceive.
4/15/2024 9:34:10 AM EDT
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First two posts both nailed it.

And physicians will continue to push boo$ter$.
4/15/2024 9:34:39 AM EDT
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Of course, and we have some of those fucktards right here, even in this thread.

They always come out of the woodwork when these things are discussed.
4/15/2024 9:34:39 AM EDT
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4/15/2024 9:39:19 AM EDT
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We knew that two years ago.

Thats why my family didn't get some bullshit experimental vaccine. I don't need a gov dude telling me it's stupid to be a lab rat.



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4/15/2024 9:40:13 AM EDT
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This is where the truth is often too complex and nuanced for the average mouth breather on either side to decode.

Lab created?  Yes
Accidental release? Likely
China intentionally covering it up and allowing it to spread?  Likely due to incompetence more than anything
US funding the research? Yes.
Putting the people that funded it in charge of the response? Yes, and they covered their own ass while doing no favors to Trump.
Did democrats take wild political advantage of the situation in 2020? Absolutely.
Was it all a multi-year plot from the beggining to influence an election?  There is no evidence of that so far.

If you jump to the last point it sounds ridiculous, but everything up to that is pretty solid.
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yes. saw a recent documentary about sandy hook and alex jones. dunno if it was true but they claimed 20 to 30 million people believe sandy hook didnt happen and all the 'parents' where crisis actors.

its hard to believe sometimes but large numbers of people believe all kinds of wacko conspiracy theories.

was the virus lab grown? i think it was. was the us involved somehow in partnership with labs doing corona virus studies including 'gain-of-function'? this is believable at least. did the government make 'mis-steps' in handling the situation? yes. was it all a plan to get rid of trump? no. but folks have bought into the various conspiracy theories because it fits their emotional involvement in political theater.
This is where the truth is often too complex and nuanced for the average mouth breather on either side to decode.

Lab created?  Yes
Accidental release? Likely
China intentionally covering it up and allowing it to spread?  Likely due to incompetence more than anything
US funding the research? Yes.
Putting the people that funded it in charge of the response? Yes, and they covered their own ass while doing no favors to Trump.
Did democrats take wild political advantage of the situation in 2020? Absolutely.
Was it all a multi-year plot from the beggining to influence an election?  There is no evidence of that so far.

If you jump to the last point it sounds ridiculous, but everything up to that is pretty solid.


The US likely participated in the coverup. It remains to be seen if this was at the direction of people with personal conflict of interest (like fauci) or directed by defense/intel officials through a normal chain of policy making.

The US might cover up if we thought we would be on the financial hook to the rest of the world.
4/15/2024 9:42:03 AM EDT
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First two posts both nailed it.

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It’s time for the mass trials ending in consequences.
4/15/2024 9:51:58 AM EDT
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His post is valid.

There are people here who believe some wild crazy shit.

Trump is going to save the world and Q anon is his prophet.
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"'They' hate Trump so much they designed and unleashed a virus to kill millions and destroy the economy."

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LOL

At least you are consistent.


His post is valid.

There are people here who believe some wild crazy shit.

Trump is going to save the world and Q anon is his prophet.



Ayup
4/15/2024 9:53:19 AM EDT
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Both of you are correct.
4/15/2024 9:57:16 AM EDT
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I trust Rand. More than probably any other politician except Massie and Amash.
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Amash is such a freedom loving libertarian minded person that he voted agaisnt Kates law because it would make illegal aliens susceptible to deportation.
4/15/2024 9:58:56 AM EDT
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At this point, the UK, Australia, German all have parliamentary inquires into mRNA vaccines.

Today, a paper was published by Japanese researchers looking at the increase in cancer rates after 3rd injection. It was very difficult for them to get it published.

Any other medicine, ever, in history, would have been cancelled due to adverse affects. But, somehow, this one is 'special'.

Why, in gods name, is this one special?

4/15/2024 9:59:17 AM EDT
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I would trust someone who believes it over someone who doesn't.

Historically, there isn't a reason not to believe it.
4/15/2024 10:03:01 AM EDT
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The US likely participated in the coverup. It remains to be seen if this was at the direction of people with personal conflict of interest (like fauci) or directed by defense/intel officials through a normal chain of policy making.

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Agreed. Likely covered up because of the public pressure to impose consequences on China for killing millions.  Which would lead back to fauci and others.

If we tool action internationally the pressure to hold our own accountable would be massive.
4/15/2024 10:13:04 AM EDT
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I'm no fanboi of Trump but the answer is yes to your question.

There is no doubt in my mind that this was nothing more than a Psyop by China with help from .gov to eliminate him. One huge Psyop on a macro scale.

Call me a nut, I don't care.

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Covid killed my 16 year old business. I hate the feds and that fuck newsom. It was all by design. They wanted to bring down Trump.


"'They' hate Trump so much they designed and unleashed a virus to kill millions and destroy the economy."

People actually believe this stuff?


I'm no fanboi of Trump but the answer is yes to your question.

There is no doubt in my mind that this was nothing more than a Psyop by China with help from .gov to eliminate him. One huge Psyop on a macro scale.

Call me a nut, I don't care.



I wouldn't call you a nut. I think you believe something nutty, but you're not alone and I'm hopeful that you aren't outside yelling at the birds on power lines, convinced they're government spies.

Has Rand released the documents yet or is he just milking it for headlines and donations?
4/15/2024 10:17:13 AM EDT
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Where was the MSM on all the lies concerning C19? In lockstep with the .gov, that's where.

Almost everything they reported was lies. And people who questioned the narrative were straight up BANNED from social media. They even banned the president. Those were dark times for freedom, and should have been a fucking wake up call for all Americans.
4/15/2024 10:29:22 AM EDT
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47 other leaders in their field have already exposed all there is to see but it doesn't match the narrative.
4/15/2024 10:30:43 AM EDT
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We knew that two years ago.

Thats why my family didn't get some bullshit experimental vaccine. I don't need a gov dude telling me it's stupid to be a lab rat.



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Have you read on what has come out about DEFUSE though?  This is a lot more than we knew before.  DEFUSE has been coming up a lot more recently and implicates a lot more people and agencies.  They hired people involved on funding it to investigate the lab leak theory.
4/15/2024 10:32:09 AM EDT
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I trust Rand. More than probably any other politician except Massie and Amash.
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He is poking into areas that I think will expose a lot of people.  Or kill him.  Who will prosecute though assuming it comes to light.
4/15/2024 10:42:10 AM EDT
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He is poking into areas that I think will expose a lot of people.  Or kill him.  Who will prosecute though assuming it comes to light.
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He is poking into areas that I think will expose a lot of people.  Or kill him.  Who will prosecute though assuming it comes to light.

Kind of seems to all be part of the game.

We all know that the DOJ will do jack shit besides ignore everything to protect the deep state.

Republicans have become good at showing faux outrage to make them look good to their constituents, while secretly wanting nothing to change. I'd hope that's not what Rand is up to, I've trusted him more than many in DC for years, but we know that, barring MSM having an epiphany and reporting the truth, nothing will happen.
4/15/2024 10:45:10 AM EDT
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I'm no fanboi of Trump but the answer is yes to your question.

There is no doubt in my mind that this was nothing more than a Psyop by China with help from .gov to eliminate him. One huge Psyop on a macro scale.

Call me a nut, I don't care.

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It was designed to consolidate power and create a veil of fear, confusion, and mindless compliance.

It worked.
4/15/2024 10:55:06 AM EDT
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yes. saw a recent documentary about sandy hook and alex jones. dunno if it was true but they claimed 20 to 30 million people believe sandy hook didnt happen and all the 'parents' where crisis actors.

its hard to believe sometimes but large numbers of people believe all kinds of wacko conspiracy theories.

was the virus lab grown? i think it was. was the us involved somehow in partnership with labs doing corona virus studies including 'gain-of-function'? this is believable at least. did the government make 'mis-steps' in handling the situation? yes. was it all a plan to get rid of trump? no. but folks have bought into the various conspiracy theories because it fits their emotional involvement in political theater.
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Was it USED by the Left to decisively sway the 2020 election via unprecedented mail in ballots and the fog of panic?

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Much like the Reichstag Fire was used to cement a Dictatorship.
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It was designed to consolidate power and create a veil of dear and mindless compliance.

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It's scary how people are unable to process this.
4/15/2024 10:57:52 AM EDT
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Where was the MSM on all the lies concerning C19? In lockstep with the .gov, that's where.

Almost everything they reported was lies. And people who questioned the narrative were straight up BANNED from social media. They even banned the president. Those were dark times for freedom, and should have been a fucking wake up call for all Americans.
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Were? We're still at Peak Dark, although a higher peak is approaching rapidly. We are in a time of historic change. Very bad change.
4/15/2024 11:01:13 AM EDT
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yes. saw a recent documentary about sandy hook and alex jones. dunno if it was true but they claimed 20 to 30 million people believe sandy hook didnt happen and all the 'parents' where crisis actors.

its hard to believe sometimes but large numbers of people believe all kinds of wacko conspiracy theories.

was the virus lab grown? i think it was. was the us involved somehow in partnership with labs doing corona virus studies including 'gain-of-function'? this is believable at least. did the government make 'mis-steps' in handling the situation? yes. was it all a plan to get rid of trump? no. but folks have bought into the various conspiracy theories because it fits their emotional involvement in political theater.
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Covid killed my 16 year old business. I hate the feds and that fuck newsom. It was all by design. They wanted to bring down Trump.


"'They' hate Trump so much they designed and unleashed a virus to kill millions and destroy the economy."

People actually believe this stuff?

yes. saw a recent documentary about sandy hook and alex jones. dunno if it was true but they claimed 20 to 30 million people believe sandy hook didnt happen and all the 'parents' where crisis actors.

its hard to believe sometimes but large numbers of people believe all kinds of wacko conspiracy theories.

was the virus lab grown? i think it was. was the us involved somehow in partnership with labs doing corona virus studies including 'gain-of-function'? this is believable at least. did the government make 'mis-steps' in handling the situation? yes. was it all a plan to get rid of trump? no. but folks have bought into the various conspiracy theories because it fits their emotional involvement in political theater.


Pretty much where I’m at.  But did Covid really kill millions though?  It seems nobody was dying of anything BUT Covid there for a while.  The largest percentage of those that died from Covid were already past their life expectancy.  Millions?  Really?
4/15/2024 11:06:53 AM EDT
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This. The acolytes of Narrative™ won't care. They cannot be swayed by facts if the facts contradict their feelings.


Frankly, a lot of people on the other side couldn't be swayed from "it was a government conspiracy/weapon etc" side either.
4/15/2024 11:08:29 AM EDT
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Rand Paul.


4/15/2024 11:09:22 AM EDT
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I may have mentioned this about fifty times before, but it is absolutely unfathomable to me why that little fuck’s bones aren’t decorating a lamppost on the National Mall.
4/15/2024 11:11:39 AM EDT
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Bigger problem is half the republican party doesn't even want to pursue it because this shit all happened under trump and trump hung on fauccis nuts through the whole thing supporting tyranny and insane government spending   Trump avoids the subject as much as possible.  

Nobody wants accountability for this shit so there will be none.

What will be funny is if trump wins the entire corporate media machine and democrats will flip on this issue saying Trump caused it all and the lockdowns and vaccine harm was all Trump's fault because he rushed the jabs.  They may even throw fauccis under the bus to get at trump. They'll throw Biden under the bus if he loses too for the same purpose if need be.  They'll start accurately reporting inflation and economic data and say Biden tries to fix Trump's mistakes but couldn't now trump is destroying the economy again.  Even though they both destroyed it.
4/15/2024 11:15:48 AM EDT
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Pretty much where I’m at.  But did Covid really kill millions though?  It seems nobody was dying of anything BUT Covid there for a while.  The largest percentage of those that died from Covid were already past their life expectancy.  Millions?  Really?
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Covid killed my 16 year old business. I hate the feds and that fuck newsom. It was all by design. They wanted to bring down Trump.


"'They' hate Trump so much they designed and unleashed a virus to kill millions and destroy the economy."

People actually believe this stuff?

yes. saw a recent documentary about sandy hook and alex jones. dunno if it was true but they claimed 20 to 30 million people believe sandy hook didnt happen and all the 'parents' where crisis actors.

its hard to believe sometimes but large numbers of people believe all kinds of wacko conspiracy theories.

was the virus lab grown? i think it was. was the us involved somehow in partnership with labs doing corona virus studies including 'gain-of-function'? this is believable at least. did the government make 'mis-steps' in handling the situation? yes. was it all a plan to get rid of trump? no. but folks have bought into the various conspiracy theories because it fits their emotional involvement in political theater.


Pretty much where I’m at.  But did Covid really kill millions though?  It seems nobody was dying of anything BUT Covid there for a while.  The largest percentage of those that died from Covid were already past their life expectancy.  Millions?  Really?


anecdotally, i live in a suburb of atlanta, the hospitals all over the place were absolutely crammed with people with respiratory issues caused by covid. a significant number of these folks died. so from my position as a 'casual' observer, there were a lot of folks in hospital with some disease that screwed up their ability to breath, so many that you couldnt get into the hospitals for other things unless you were critical. nurses were bailing out in the thousands due to stress dealing with whatever was going on and folks (some of who i knew) were dying from respiratory issues.  

so yes i think covid killed millions. they were hiring refrigerator trucks in some places because the morgue ran out of space.


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anecdotally, i live in a suburb of atlanta, the hospitals all over the place were absolutely crammed with people with respiratory issues caused by covid. a significant number of these folks died. so from my position as a 'casual' observer, there were a lot of folks in hospital with some disease that screwed up their ability to breath, so many that you couldnt get into the hospitals for other things unless you were critical. nurses were bailing out in the thousands due to stress dealing with whatever was going on and folks (some of who i knew) were dying from respiratory issues.  

so yes i think covid killed millions. they were hiring refrigerator trucks in some places because the morgue ran out of space.


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Fucking COVID theater, just like the Navy ships and field hospitals that didn't get used.
4/15/2024 11:27:10 AM EDT
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Fucking COVID theater, just like the Navy ships and field hospitals that didn't get used.
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anecdotally, i live in a suburb of atlanta, the hospitals all over the place were absolutely crammed with people with respiratory issues caused by covid. a significant number of these folks died. so from my position as a 'casual' observer, there were a lot of folks in hospital with some disease that screwed up their ability to breath, so many that you couldnt get into the hospitals for other things unless you were critical. nurses were bailing out in the thousands due to stress dealing with whatever was going on and folks (some of who i knew) were dying from respiratory issues.  

so yes i think covid killed millions. they were hiring refrigerator trucks in some places because the morgue ran out of space.




Fucking COVID theater, just like the Navy ships and field hospitals that didn't get used.


Co-buki theater.  There were stories out of NY about refrigerated trucks hauling bodies that were stacked like cordwood out to mass graves, because the hospitals had to many dead to process.  

Here's a question that will never be answered:  out of all those dead, how many died OF Covid, how many died WITH Covid, and how many simply died, and their deaths were blamed on Covid in order to collect that sweet, sweet Covid relief money?
4/15/2024 11:48:20 AM EDT
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The "vaccine" wasn't for the virus. The virus was for the "vaccine." There had never been a successful coronavirus vaccine before. There had also never been an Mrna vaccine that made it through testing. Suddenly, we're being told by Fauci and the .gov that a coronavirus vaccine using Mrna technology was the only possible answer. All the already existing antiviral therapies we had were completely useless, we didn't even have to test them, they just were. However, these new "vaccines" were "the only way out." Billions of $$$ in profit later, it was all bullshit.
4/15/2024 11:54:48 AM EDT
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Says the true believer who listens to state media 24/7....
4/15/2024 11:56:29 AM EDT
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Yea sure it is. Oh wait no its not...
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Covid killed my 16 year old business. I hate the feds and that fuck newsom. It was all by design. They wanted to bring down Trump.


"'They' hate Trump so much they designed and unleashed a virus to kill millions and destroy the economy."

People actually believe this stuff?

@macros73
Yeah the government could never abuse power…

The government fed radioactive oatmeal to citizens without their knowledge to  see exactly what it would do. Despite knowing it was highly toxic.( google science club radioactive oatmeal)

The government deliberately withheld treatment for a highly treatable disease , lying to those that had it until
The 1980’s .(Tuskegee experiment)

The government gave weapon systems and guns to drug cartels/terrorists (see Iran contra, operation fast and furious, operation linebacker,  Libyan embassy stinger allegations, Afghanistan evacuation)

Hell at this point if someone said the government had citizens best interests at heart I’d suspect THAT statement is being a conspiracy.:-/

4/15/2024 12:10:36 PM EDT
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Was it USED by the Left to decisively sway the 2020 election via unprecedented mail in ballots and the fog of panic?

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They certainly took advantage. But did they conspire to make it happen?   That's going to require serious proof.
4/15/2024 12:11:49 PM EDT
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"'They' hate Trump so much they designed and unleashed a virus to kill millions and destroy the economy."

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Says the true believer who listens to state media 24/7....


Keep on spouting off as though you know me, dude.
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anecdotally, i live in a suburb of atlanta, the hospitals all over the place were absolutely crammed with people with respiratory issues caused by covid. a significant number of these folks died. so from my position as a 'casual' observer, there were a lot of folks in hospital with some disease that screwed up their ability to breath, so many that you couldnt get into the hospitals for other things unless you were critical. nurses were bailing out in the thousands due to stress dealing with whatever was going on and folks (some of who i knew) were dying from respiratory issues.  

so yes i think covid killed millions. they were hiring refrigerator trucks in some places because the morgue ran out of space.


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Covid killed my 16 year old business. I hate the feds and that fuck newsom. It was all by design. They wanted to bring down Trump.


"'They' hate Trump so much they designed and unleashed a virus to kill millions and destroy the economy."

People actually believe this stuff?

yes. saw a recent documentary about sandy hook and alex jones. dunno if it was true but they claimed 20 to 30 million people believe sandy hook didnt happen and all the 'parents' where crisis actors.

its hard to believe sometimes but large numbers of people believe all kinds of wacko conspiracy theories.

was the virus lab grown? i think it was. was the us involved somehow in partnership with labs doing corona virus studies including 'gain-of-function'? this is believable at least. did the government make 'mis-steps' in handling the situation? yes. was it all a plan to get rid of trump? no. but folks have bought into the various conspiracy theories because it fits their emotional involvement in political theater.


Pretty much where I’m at.  But did Covid really kill millions though?  It seems nobody was dying of anything BUT Covid there for a while.  The largest percentage of those that died from Covid were already past their life expectancy.  Millions?  Really?


anecdotally, i live in a suburb of atlanta, the hospitals all over the place were absolutely crammed with people with respiratory issues caused by covid. a significant number of these folks died. so from my position as a 'casual' observer, there were a lot of folks in hospital with some disease that screwed up their ability to breath, so many that you couldnt get into the hospitals for other things unless you were critical. nurses were bailing out in the thousands due to stress dealing with whatever was going on and folks (some of who i knew) were dying from respiratory issues.  

so yes i think covid killed millions. they were hiring refrigerator trucks in some places because the morgue ran out of space.




This is part of the doublethnk that just confuses me. The same people who will rage about a vast, left-wing conspiracy to kill millions with a virus will also rage that the virus didn't kill anyone and that no vaccination against it is needed.
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I think the bigger picture was his pulling back from China , Nato ,the Paris Agreement etc . Trump flipped off the globalist and they flipped him off right back .
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"'They' hate Trump so much they designed and unleashed a virus to kill millions and destroy the economy."

People actually believe this stuff?

I think the bigger picture was his pulling back from China , Nato ,the Paris Agreement etc . Trump flipped off the globalist and they flipped him off right back .


Exactly,   if you think those fucks wouldn't kill millions to keep their power you are incredibly naive.
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This is part of the doublethnk that just confuses me. The same people who will rage about a vast, left-wing conspiracy to kill millions with a virus will also rage that the virus didn't kill anyone and that no vaccination against it is needed.
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Covid killed my 16 year old business. I hate the feds and that fuck newsom. It was all by design. They wanted to bring down Trump.


"'They' hate Trump so much they designed and unleashed a virus to kill millions and destroy the economy."

People actually believe this stuff?

yes. saw a recent documentary about sandy hook and alex jones. dunno if it was true but they claimed 20 to 30 million people believe sandy hook didnt happen and all the 'parents' where crisis actors.

its hard to believe sometimes but large numbers of people believe all kinds of wacko conspiracy theories.

was the virus lab grown? i think it was. was the us involved somehow in partnership with labs doing corona virus studies including 'gain-of-function'? this is believable at least. did the government make 'mis-steps' in handling the situation? yes. was it all a plan to get rid of trump? no. but folks have bought into the various conspiracy theories because it fits their emotional involvement in political theater.


Pretty much where I’m at.  But did Covid really kill millions though?  It seems nobody was dying of anything BUT Covid there for a while.  The largest percentage of those that died from Covid were already past their life expectancy.  Millions?  Really?


anecdotally, i live in a suburb of atlanta, the hospitals all over the place were absolutely crammed with people with respiratory issues caused by covid. a significant number of these folks died. so from my position as a 'casual' observer, there were a lot of folks in hospital with some disease that screwed up their ability to breath, so many that you couldnt get into the hospitals for other things unless you were critical. nurses were bailing out in the thousands due to stress dealing with whatever was going on and folks (some of who i knew) were dying from respiratory issues.  

so yes i think covid killed millions. they were hiring refrigerator trucks in some places because the morgue ran out of space.




This is part of the doublethnk that just confuses me. The same people who will rage about a vast, left-wing conspiracy to kill millions with a virus will also rage that the virus didn't kill anyone and that no vaccination against it is needed.

You're confused because you conflate too much . The virus probably killed millions of elderly as well as those with multiple comorbidities.  Not only was the vaccine not needed ( natural immunity) it would also never work against the virus but , because of its formulation , it will probably kill more people than the virus in the end .
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The "vaccine" wasn't for the virus. The virus was for the "vaccine." There had never been a successful coronavirus vaccine before. There had also never been an Mrna vaccine that made it through testing. Suddenly, we're being told by Fauci and the .gov that a coronavirus vaccine using Mrna technology was the only possible answer. All the already existing antiviral therapies we had were completely useless, we didn't even have to test them, they just were. However, these new "vaccines" were "the only way out." Billions of $$$ in profit later, it was all bullshit.
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Not a lot of folks talk about that/point that out.  It’s like the world intentionally forgot everything we already knew about treating viruses and respiratory issues.  Not even suggesting to drink plenty of fluids when you were sick.  Just go be sick and come back if you’re dying.

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