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5/25/2017 4:08:35 PM EDT
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Short of that, you could weld a rib down the bottom making it a stabby "T" shape. Kinda like how old timey bayonets had a  triangular crossection.
5/25/2017 4:19:35 PM EDT
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Is there any sort of angle iron shaped bracket with those mounting tabs? That'd be stronger and uglier than a flat piece.
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I do have the angle iron but I'm thinking more along the lines of mounting a spike to a bracket that bolts to my bottom rail and hooks into my muzzle cone for extra support
5/25/2017 4:35:29 PM EDT
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Well, given the rest of the build,  sure you'll sort it out. Nice work!
5/25/2017 4:48:32 PM EDT
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I do have the angle iron but I'm thinking more along the lines of mounting a spike to a bracket that bolts to my bottom rail and hooks into my muzzle cone for extra support
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Make it a side-folder like a M44. Using some sort of nasty cabinet hinge etc.
5/25/2017 6:00:36 PM EDT
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Ha, the seat belt sling is great!
5/25/2017 6:31:25 PM EDT
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Seriously. When he first mentioned making the sling out of a seat belt, I was , but after I saw the final product, I was .

Awesome job, OP.
5/25/2017 6:34:55 PM EDT
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That's badass right there.  Seat belt sling is cool but a beat up leather guitar strap would be cooler
5/25/2017 6:37:01 PM EDT
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Foregrip attached.
http://i.imgur.com/N6cjRJN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/isbsdrH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XjrDf0o.jpg

Shortened the grip by about an inch too. It's a hair canted clockwise....perfect for a righty but not very lefty friendly


Turns out my FSB is ever so slightly canted too....just enough for when you lay it upsidedown (on the sights) you can barely slip a sheet of thin notebook paper under it (the left ear) with some catching. Is that close enough to sight in or should I cut the bolt attaching it to my forend and attempt? to slightly adjust?
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When I installed the beat up EE FSP on my daughter's leopard print AR, I measured every angle of it trying to figure out which to use as a level. Not one surface was square. About the only option I had was to sight down the forearm at the post and hope for the best. Having the ears not both touch the table is not going to automatically mean it isn't square.
5/25/2017 6:45:24 PM EDT
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Sling even has a tactical detachment button!
5/25/2017 8:05:21 PM EDT
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Ok guys I'm having some stupid feed issues for anything beyond 7 rounds the last 7 feed perfectly every time

Either the bolt doesn't pick up the rounds at all or I get this


Or twice it shoved a round way up above the chamber...

I did tighten my front takedown bolt down pretty tight so I could be ever so slightly torquing something (probably should have tried that) unless I did something wrong upper wise. Lower does work with those mags on a standard x39 upper

Heading out to eat now so I'll loosen the front bolt and try again later
5/25/2017 8:21:16 PM EDT
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Ok guys I'm having some stupid feed issues for anything beyond 7 rounds the last 7 feed perfectly every time

Either the bolt doesn't pick up the rounds at all or I get this
http://i.imgur.com/konS8vq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qKi66eX.jpg
Or twice it shoved a round way up above the chamber...

I did tighten my front takedown bolt down pretty tight so I could be ever so slightly torquing something (probably should have tried that) unless I did something wrong upper wise. Lower does work with those mags on a standard x39 upper

Heading out to eat now so I'll loosen the front bolt and try again later
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Did you weld your bolt catch in or just not use it?  It tilts the mag follower just slightly for feeding rounds.
5/25/2017 8:26:23 PM EDT
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Did you weld your bolt catch in or just not use it?  It tilts the mag follower just slightly for feeding rounds.
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Ok guys I'm having some stupid feed issues for anything beyond 7 rounds the last 7 feed perfectly every time

Either the bolt doesn't pick up the rounds at all or I get this
http://i.imgur.com/konS8vq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qKi66eX.jpg
Or twice it shoved a round way up above the chamber...

I did tighten my front takedown bolt down pretty tight so I could be ever so slightly torquing something (probably should have tried that) unless I did something wrong upper wise. Lower does work with those mags on a standard x39 upper

Heading out to eat now so I'll loosen the front bolt and try again later
Did you weld your bolt catch in or just not use it?  It tilts the mag follower just slightly for feeding rounds.
I didn't add one at all but this hasn't been an issue with any other upper I've had on it. Hell I put 250ish rounds between 2 uppers on that lower a few weeks ago without a hiccup. ~120 of those were 7.62x39 from those mags
5/25/2017 8:30:20 PM EDT
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I didn't add one at all but this hasn't been an issue with any other upper I've had on it. Hell I put 250ish rounds between 2 uppers on that lower a few weeks ago without a hiccup. ~120 of those were 7.62x39 from those mags
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Was just my first idea.  But obviously with other testing you've done, that's not it.
5/25/2017 8:36:17 PM EDT
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Was just my first idea.  But obviously with other testing you've done, that's not it.
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I didn't add one at all but this hasn't been an issue with any other upper I've had on it. Hell I put 250ish rounds between 2 uppers on that lower a few weeks ago without a hiccup. ~120 of those were 7.62x39 from those mags
Was just my first idea.  But obviously with other testing you've done, that's not it.
Well I don't think so but we'll have to see. I'm leaning towards my front pin being too tight but with my luck it's never that simple.

Mags were pretty hard to seat too
5/25/2017 9:14:33 PM EDT
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reminds me of this movie.
Real Men (1987) -- Belushi with a Makeshift Nail Rifle
5/25/2017 9:24:48 PM EDT
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Well I don't think so but we'll have to see. I'm leaning towards my front pin being too tight but with my luck it's never that simple.

Mags were pretty hard to seat too
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Hope it is that pin, but pretty doubtful. You have a steel lower that has a plate directly behind the pin that shouldn't allow it to "tighten". and then it's just onto the lug of the upper. So long as your rear pin fit, I cant see how that could be the issue.

But, If the mag wants to seat tight, maybe it's just a mag problem. I had to jam a Pmag into mine that even marred the mag,  but a 20rd USGI slides in like butter.
5/25/2017 9:26:03 PM EDT
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5/25/2017 9:50:20 PM EDT
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Quick thought on the 'stock' to make it look more worn.  Take the wood off and randomly wrap it in bailing or chicken wire, then hit the wood with a torch for a couple seconds to tiger stripe it.  

That or Shou Sugi Ban, which is an awesome old school Japanese wood preservation trick.  Basically torch the outside until it's where you like the color.  Hit it with a wire brush to get off the loose/soft bits, then brush it repeatedly with oil while still hot ish.  Any oil will do, but for DIY stuff, canola is pretty popular since there isn't any potential health hazards if it smokes off.  Super durable and looks awesome if done well, BUT looks like it was a hunk of wood taken out of a house fire if you go full wood treatment on it.

Personally, I'd string it up using baling wire and the holes for the bolts and just torch the sucker.

5/25/2017 9:51:13 PM EDT
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Ok guys I'm having some stupid feed issues for anything beyond 7 rounds the last 7 feed perfectly every time

Either the bolt doesn't pick up the rounds at all or I get this
http://i.imgur.com/konS8vq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qKi66eX.jpg
Or twice it shoved a round way up above the chamber...

I did tighten my front takedown bolt down pretty tight so I could be ever so slightly torquing something (probably should have tried that) unless I did something wrong upper wise. Lower does work with those mags on a standard x39 upper

Heading out to eat now so I'll loosen the front bolt and try again later
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Maybe weld some material and bust out a file to make the mag catch higher. That should cause the magazine to lock higher into the gun.

eta take some careful measurements from the top of the mag catch to the top of the lower reciever and compare it to a factory gun you know works.
5/25/2017 9:52:43 PM EDT
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Quick thought on the 'stock' to make it look more worn.  Take the wood off and randomly wrap it in bailing or chicken wire, then hit the wood with a torch for a couple seconds to tiger stripe it.  

That or Shou Sugi Ban, which is an awesome old school Japanese wood preservation trick.  Basically torch the outside until it's where you like the color.  Hit it with a wire brush to get off the loose/soft bits, then brush it repeatedly with oil while still hot ish.  Any oil will do, but for DIY stuff, canola is pretty popular since there isn't any potential health hazards if it smokes off.  Super durable and looks awesome if done well, BUT looks like it was a hunk of wood taken out of a house fire if you go full wood treatment on it.

Personally, I'd string it up using baling wire and the holes for the bolts and just torch the sucker.

http://www.wc-studio.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Shou-Sugi-Ban-cover-image.jpg
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I'm with this guy, Char that stock and grip a bit and then rub it down with used motor oil.
5/25/2017 10:05:40 PM EDT
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OK just got back and ran 80 rounds through my "good" mag (the one I've been messing with from day one) manually. It doesn't like to pick up the 20th round in the mag but feeds 19 fine (again weird because I hadn't had issues before but if I just load 19 it works fine so whatever). I had two of the FTFs like pictured above but I may have ever so slightly short stroked it

"good" mag is the only one that fits worth a damn so I'll need to mod the others

Oh and it wasn't the pin, it was pretty loose. Could the upper's ability to wobble left and right in the rear be causing these issues? Its about 1.5-2 millimeters of travel either way in the rear
5/25/2017 10:25:14 PM EDT
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I'll take a pic tomorrow (I should get the parts to make my safety work again in the mail) but I welded two washers on each side of my rear take down pin to get rid of that wobble.
5/25/2017 11:07:22 PM EDT
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thanks bud, appreciate it
5/26/2017 3:11:51 PM EDT
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I'll take a pic tomorrow (I should get the parts to make my safety work again in the mail) but I welded two washers on each side of my rear take down pin to get rid of that wobble.
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You'll see the two washers back there I welded in and they take up nearly all the slop. You'll also see how I drilled my safety detent. 1/8 drill and I used a bolt catch spring and the standard safety detent. It's a touch sloppy, but it works.
5/26/2017 7:45:10 PM EDT
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Well I refinished it today, 3 coats of blueing on the steel parts and 5 coats of aluma black on the upper. I may do more but that's all for now (that shit dries the hell out of your skin BTW )







And like I promised, your engraving doesn't look like total trash anymore @smokie
5/26/2017 7:50:21 PM EDT
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5/26/2017 7:58:26 PM EDT
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http://i.imgur.com/PL6oanj.jpg

You'll see the two washers back there I welded in and they take up nearly all the slop. You'll also see how I drilled my safety detent. 1/8 drill and I used a bolt catch spring and the standard safety detent. It's a touch sloppy, but it works.
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Looks easy enough, I wish I had done it when I was putting it together through I remember thinking about it but then going "meh it'll be fine"
5/26/2017 8:00:05 PM EDT
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How comfortable is the grip? Surely it can't be worse than an A2
5/26/2017 8:02:15 PM EDT
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Still need to do the bayonet, I just felt too lazy to fire up the welder today
5/26/2017 8:03:41 PM EDT
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Sling even has a tactical detachment button!
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@Raider14     Haha thing has seen some serious use on our ambulance and then sat outside for a year. Has true street cred. Btw dont forget to goige my name into the rifle somewhere too
5/26/2017 8:04:10 PM EDT
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How comfortable is the grip? Surely it can't be worse than an A2
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Better than an A2 honestly...hell I like it more than most grips I want to fill in the gap between the trigger guard and the handles though with some athletic tape (the white cloth stuff). I think that'll look pretty good
5/26/2017 8:09:53 PM EDT
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@Raider14     Haha thing has seen some serious use on our ambulance and then sat outside for a year. Has true street cred. Btw dont forget to goige my name into the rifle somewhere too
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Oh don't worry fam, you're in it
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It admittedly isn't the best but eventually I'm going to "clean" them up (the engravings) and fill them with something so they are easily readable.
5/27/2017 10:57:22 AM EDT
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Does the wrench on your rear pin fit the nut/bolt on the front "pin"?

That thing is awesome!  I've gotta find time to get working on my fallout inspired rifle.
5/27/2017 11:15:30 AM EDT
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Great job following through on the build Raider.

Some real Khyber Pass shit
5/27/2017 1:25:58 PM EDT
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Does the wrench on your rear pin fit the nut/bolt on the front "pin"?

That thing is awesome!  I've gotta find time to get working on my fallout inspired rifle.
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Yep! I need to swap out one side for a wing nut so I can probably tighten it up.

Make time for it! There's a bunch of them in progress currently on here
5/27/2017 1:26:44 PM EDT
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Great job following through on the build Raider.

Some real Khyber Pass shit
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thanks man I've had a lot of fun
5/27/2017 1:40:46 PM EDT
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Is OP Pakistani, because you've got talent.
5/27/2017 1:45:52 PM EDT
[#38]
that rifle is both disgusting and magnificent
5/27/2017 1:51:44 PM EDT
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Take it to a 3 gun shoot now
5/27/2017 2:04:14 PM EDT
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Take it to a 3 gun shoot now
I'd need a shotgun for that

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that rifle is both disgusting and magnificent
it transcends dimension


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Is OP Pakistani, because you've got talent.
I don't know man, pretty sure I'd be laughed at by some of those guys because I didn't hand file it from a solid block of tool steel
5/27/2017 2:14:11 PM EDT
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OST
5/27/2017 3:12:02 PM EDT
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Sounds like it's time to build a post-apocalyptic shotgun, then.
5/27/2017 3:16:34 PM EDT
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Yep! I need to swap out one side for a wing nut so I can probably tighten it up.

Make time for it! There's a bunch of them in progress currently on here
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You could just weld the nut to the lower, instead of the wing nut.  One less part to lose.
5/27/2017 3:29:54 PM EDT
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5/27/2017 3:36:59 PM EDT
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That's really starting to look good (horrible).

You should checker the mag release with a dremel, it looks too nice.
5/27/2017 7:41:45 PM EDT
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That's really starting to look good (horrible).

You should checker the mag release with a dremel, it looks too nice.
That gets me thinking...I wonder how like a bottlecap or coin would look as a mag release?





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Sounds like it's time to build a post-apocalyptic shotgun, then.
Wellllllllll........I mean I'd love to build a shambler from Metro 2033.....






5/27/2017 7:49:44 PM EDT
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Got to put about 100 rounds through it today, had 4 FTFs, 2 rounds tipped up into the top of the barrel extension and 2 times the bolt simply didn't pick the cartridge up. I'm going to go with ever so slightly undergassed for the letter two FTFs.

Didn't even bother with any other mags beyond my "good" one that fits best. Going to simply keep Dremeling on the other two until they want to simply insert correctly
5/27/2017 8:25:04 PM EDT
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It may take a case of beer, But I'd bet you could get at least one of them 24 to bend properly to work as a mag release.

Or since you don't have a cage, drink 23 and then drill a hole in the 24'th and thread it on top of your existing button.

100% certain it'll take at least 23 beers though.
5/27/2017 8:34:47 PM EDT
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Bottoms up then
5/27/2017 8:39:29 PM EDT
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To our completion! and your mag release.

But what now?  Sure we both have a couple tiny things to do, but we are essentially done...   Whats the next fun idea?

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