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12/1/2016 5:26:24 AM EDT
[#1]

Really like it, but it's really hurting my brain...as in made my headache way worse.....

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12/1/2016 5:26:52 AM EDT
[#2]
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Everything is too spread out and my avatar is cropped.

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This. Very hard to read.
12/1/2016 5:27:47 AM EDT
[#3]
I'm not seeing an option to post emoticons/animations on the mobile site.

I would like the member post count to be displayed on the mobile site too.
12/1/2016 5:29:04 AM EDT
[#4]
I opened it on my laptop and wondered why the mobile version loaded...  Everything is way too spaced out.
12/1/2016 5:29:11 AM EDT
[#5]
Ok I won't post the old meme of Bill O'Reilly and try to be constructive, instead of just complaining that this is the cartoon version of the site.

There's a huge discrepancy in the font size between index pages like subscriptions and active topics, and the text in threads.

The best way to view threads on a computer seems to be to use the browser zoom and shrink it down to say 80%. That reduces the huge waste of space of the avatar blocks and makes the threads overall more readable. But the problem is, if you zoom to 80%, then other text on the site, and the index pages, is very small.

Making thread text smaller doesn't fix the problem, we need other text to be larger, so that we can just shrink the size via zoom and make it somewhat bearable on a computer. Maybe it looks great on a tablet or iphone, I don't know I don't generally do websurfing on those. If that is what drove these changes, they should have just been put into a mobile site and left a more normal interface for computer users.

Lacking readily accessible links for subscriptions, active topics etc is a major PITA. I used those all the time. I essentially never go to just a particular forum, so all those drop down menus are useless to me.
12/1/2016 5:29:17 AM EDT
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I'll admit, I've been having fun with the chaos, and doing my fair share of shitposting. Once some of the bugs are worked out, and some normal (color sig lines, .gif avatars) features are returned, you'll be well on your way to making Arfcom great (it's kind of shit at the moment) again.

ETA: Don't you dare change my shit brown to digi-camo in a feeble attempt at appeasement. MAGA!! :)
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Lol i was just about to start yelling at my tablet about the orange...then bam digigreen...lol
12/1/2016 5:29:19 AM EDT
[#7]
Looks like something we'll have to get use to.


I'm on an iPad....I think I kind of like this format.
12/1/2016 5:30:16 AM EDT
[#8]
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Everything is too spread out and my avatar is cropped.

Are there user settings to fix this?
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We will adjust spacing, offer small font option, and you can upload a higher resolution version of your avatar or a new one through your profile.
12/1/2016 5:31:24 AM EDT
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Really like it, but it's really hurting my brain...as in made my headache way worse.....

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Pretty much this. Maybe it's just how I've got it set up but everything seems to run together. Bars and buttons and such aren't very defined and it gives it a block o' text look.

The titles of threads in search are the same font, size, and color as the text if you're searching thread posts. It makes it a little tricky if you're trying to find a particular post in a certain thread.

All that said -  I do like the new layout.
12/1/2016 5:31:31 AM EDT
[#10]
The "next page" button isn't lit up to indicate that there are additional pages

At least for me it's not




But as least we have whatever this is now
12/1/2016 5:31:32 AM EDT
[#11]
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Ok I won't post the old meme of Bill O'Reilly and try to be constructive, instead of just complaining that this is the cartoon version of the site.

There's a huge discrepancy in the font size between index pages like subscriptions and active topics, and the text in threads.

The best way to view threads on a computer seems to be to use the browser zoom and shrink it down to say 80%. That reduces the huge waste of space of the avatar blocks and makes the threads overall more readable. But the problem is, if you zoom to 80%, then other text on the site, and the index pages, is very small.

Making thread text smaller doesn't fix the problem, we need other text to be larger, so that we can just shrink the size via zoom and make it somewhat bearable on a computer. Maybe it looks great on a tablet or iphone, I don't know I don't generally do websurfing on those. If that is what drove these changes, they should have just been put into a mobile site and left a more normal interface for computer users.

Lacking readily accessible links for subscriptions, active topics etc is a major PITA. I used those all the time. I essentially never go to just a particular forum, so all those drop down menus are useless to me.
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This. All of this.

But I'll also be less constructive and just say the new site sucks ass. Hard suck.  

12/1/2016 5:32:05 AM EDT
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We will adjust spacing, offer small font option, and you can upload a higher resolution version of your avatar or a new one through your profile.
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Can you at least give us the option of keeping the old site format with the updates? This is painfully terrible.  My eyes hurt looking at the new format...  
12/1/2016 5:32:14 AM EDT
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Space holder for later review.

Well, just noticed that can't do colorful signature lines anymore. 
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They do, I'll make sure to review your tags so their are being properly parsed.
12/1/2016 5:33:03 AM EDT
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The "next page" button isn't lit up to indicate that there are additional pages

At least for me it's not




But as least we have whatever this is now
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For the foot fetish weirdos?
12/1/2016 5:33:29 AM EDT
[#15]
It will take some getting used to. How do you go back to mobile version on phone? I hit it to test out but constantly have to resize screen to read entire post. Come s out like this. Well I can't upload a photo from iPhone get "error #601 file extension error"
12/1/2016 5:34:57 AM EDT
[#16]

I kinda like it.

 Just don't know where to find my "subscriptions".....


12/1/2016 5:34:58 AM EDT
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It will take some getting used to. How do you go back to mobile version on phone? I hit it to test out but constantly have to resize screen to read entire post. Come s out like this. Well I can't upload a photo from iPhone get "error #601 file extension error"
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Very bottom right.
12/1/2016 5:35:25 AM EDT
[#18]
I like it fine except my Avatar is fyucked

blue is my favorite, a blue camo would be cool

I set Chrome to 90%
12/1/2016 5:35:42 AM EDT
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I kinda like it.

 Just don't know where to find my "subscriptions".....

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Wrench and screw driver, top left.
12/1/2016 5:35:58 AM EDT
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It will take some getting used to. How do you go back to mobile version on phone? I hit it to test out but constantly have to resize screen to read entire post. Come s out like this. Well I can't upload a photo from iPhone get "error #601 file extension error"
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Very bottom of page is link to mobile site
12/1/2016 5:36:11 AM EDT
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Pretty much this. Maybe it's just how I've got it set up but everything seems to run together. Bars and buttons and such aren't very defined and it gives it a block o' text look.

The titles of threads in search are the same font, size, and color as the text if you're searching thread posts. It makes it a little tricky if you're trying to find a particular post in a certain thread.

All that said -  I do like the new layout.
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Really like it, but it's really hurting my brain...as in made my headache way worse.....

http://AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/404934/image-94747.jpeg

Pretty much this. Maybe it's just how I've got it set up but everything seems to run together. Bars and buttons and such aren't very defined and it gives it a block o' text look.

The titles of threads in search are the same font, size, and color as the text if you're searching thread posts. It makes it a little tricky if you're trying to find a particular post in a certain thread.

All that said -  I do like the new layout.

I changed to the olive color in forum preferences and it seems to be helping some...but still needs more control over all the spacing and font sizes...still really nauseous and dizzy but not quite as bad as it was......
12/1/2016 5:36:43 AM EDT
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Very bottom right.
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It will take some getting used to. How do you go back to mobile version on phone? I hit it to test out but constantly have to resize screen to read entire post. Come s out like this. Well I can't upload a photo from iPhone get "error #601 file extension error"



Very bottom right.
Thanks. 
12/1/2016 5:37:06 AM EDT
[#23]
how to make a poll
12/1/2016 5:37:20 AM EDT
[#24]
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Nothing is set in stone, other than not going back to the old site.  

I already have it on my agenda to add a smaller font option and we continue to alter spacing and fix display issues on a daily basis. So let's count those out.

I am currently fixing the issue with EEManager... sorry about that. I should have it fixed in a few minutes.

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The font thing is huge for me.  This is unusable unless I zoom to about 80%.     I would really like to have the options for Active and Subscribed o the menu w/o having to pull them out of a drop down box.
12/1/2016 5:37:24 AM EDT
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This. All of this.

But I'll also be less constructive and just say the new site sucks ass. Hard suck.  
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Ok I won't post the old meme of Bill O'Reilly and try to be constructive, instead of just complaining that this is the cartoon version of the site.

There's a huge discrepancy in the font size between index pages like subscriptions and active topics, and the text in threads.

The best way to view threads on a computer seems to be to use the browser zoom and shrink it down to say 80%. That reduces the huge waste of space of the avatar blocks and makes the threads overall more readable. But the problem is, if you zoom to 80%, then other text on the site, and the index pages, is very small.

Making thread text smaller doesn't fix the problem, we need other text to be larger, so that we can just shrink the size via zoom and make it somewhat bearable on a computer. Maybe it looks great on a tablet or iphone, I don't know I don't generally do websurfing on those. If that is what drove these changes, they should have just been put into a mobile site and left a more normal interface for computer users.

Lacking readily accessible links for subscriptions, active topics etc is a major PITA. I used those all the time. I essentially never go to just a particular forum, so all those drop down menus are useless to me.


This. All of this.

But I'll also be less constructive and just say the new site sucks ass. Hard suck.  


Yeah fonts are way too big across the board. 80% Seems just about right.
12/1/2016 5:38:43 AM EDT
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The font thing is huge for me.  This is unusable unless I zoom to about 80%.     I would really like to have the options for Active and Subscribed o the menu w/o having to pull them out of a drop down box.
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That right there. The new site takes more steps to navigate.

12/1/2016 5:39:16 AM EDT
[#27]
THIS FORMAT SUCKS AND BETA TESTERS WHO APPROVED SHOULD BE PERMA BANNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know you have said you do t carecif people pay for memberships or not..... I will no longer financially contribute to this this site if you continue to endorse this horrible format of a forum!!!



12/1/2016 5:39:24 AM EDT
[#28]
I feel bad for you Goat Boy    

You're going to catch a lot of undue flak because of the changes...  

I think you've worked hard on the site.  Looks good but a change is  hard to swallow sometimes.

I'm sure I'll get used to it.
12/1/2016 5:39:24 AM EDT
[#29]
It takes too long to load.

The drop down menus and all the associated extra moves suck and seriously hamper mobile use.

The colors in preferences are lacking and the highlighted thread colors are disturbingly odd and reminiscent of a 1970's board game.

Scroll, scroll, scroll away to finally view some posts.

They thread format sucks whether in vertical or horizontal format.

The look is dreadfully flat.

No more animated smileys. Well II could n't find them sp tedting that.

The monochromatic feel and look of the icons in the forums and on the editors are slow to discern and add to the dull, flat look.

Animated gifs are part of the character of this place.

While I certainly appreciate your efforts here I think you went too far. The look and feel of the old thread was much better and the single click buttons for subscriptions and active topics and such were extremely efficient.

I swear the only thing missing is a MIDI music intro as the site loads.


Well, you asked.       This does not feel like winning..  


12/1/2016 5:39:26 AM EDT
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Bottom right when you started the thread.
12/1/2016 5:39:39 AM EDT
[#31]
Looks kind of like a step backwards on iPad.
Drop down menus for Forums is just an extra step to get where you want to go.
When I think about the layout of the old website, it seemed so futuristic and modern compared to this one. This one seems almost like a mid-2000s.forum.

I'll report back when I get to work and am on a computer. Maybe that is better.

12/1/2016 5:39:59 AM EDT
[#32]
Whoops, didn't see this thread until after I already put this in the other one, but I'll put it here too.

I looked at the quick help guide and I'm just not seeing any of that wrench or top banner stuff on my screen. I seem to be stuck on the mobile site maybe? Except that my url is just the normal ar15.com, and I have tried pressing the "view full site" button in the drop down menu in the corner but nothing changes. What am I doing wrong?

This is what my screen looks like atm (laptop):

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12/1/2016 5:40:00 AM EDT
[#33]
WTF?

The colors are all wrong, the text is big & goofy, & my classic editor box is gone.
12/1/2016 5:41:05 AM EDT
[#34]
There are a couple of improvements.  You could have kept the overall aesthetic and added those improvements.
12/1/2016 5:41:35 AM EDT
[#35]
Add a poll........... Seriously.... Add a poll to see how many members approve this cluster fuck
12/1/2016 5:41:49 AM EDT
[#36]
How do we use animations/ smileys from the mobile version?  Seems like the best place to ask...
12/1/2016 5:42:29 AM EDT
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The drop down menus make the experience and ease of use worse.
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THIS. It was just fine the way it was. I don't like adding more steps to what was a streamlined process! Please bring back the individual buttons...

And when posting, I automatically hit what I thought was the Submit Post button and it was Select File now. I had to scroll to get to the Submit button Keep it simple.
12/1/2016 5:42:39 AM EDT
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I just put one up.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1939108_Bring-back-the-old-format-.html
12/1/2016 5:43:10 AM EDT
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First, I'll say that I'm all about the back end/editing fixes, as the old site desperately needed improvement in that area

1) Space bar issue when quoting is still not fixed.
2) HTTPS is broken due to a scripts error in Chrome
3) Overall, the layout is awful. It is painful to look at. It looks like a mobile billboard, emphasis on mobile.
4) Load times are painful. Frequently seeing 7+ second render times, as measured by the Chrome tool
5) TONS of wasted space, which again goes back to the terrible layout.
6) Dropdown menus. They are not intuitive at all. Literally nothing about the new design is intuitive actually.
7) No mention anywhere of chat.ar15.com?
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1) Not sure what causes this for random people. I assume it's a browser issue with some plugin where editable content craps out. Try the bbcode editor and it probably works because it's standard text box.

2) Fixing this now.

3) Appreciate that.

4) All pages or certain ones?

5) Work in progress on spacing.

6) How are menu's not intuitive? They have been around since the first windows/mac gui and are pretty standard things.

7) Not yet... but it has to change/update soon.
12/1/2016 5:44:29 AM EDT
[#40]
Pleasant surprise!
12/1/2016 5:44:29 AM EDT
[#41]
Shit, the real question is how did the change effect BOTD?
12/1/2016 5:44:56 AM EDT
[#42]
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Whoops, didn't see this thread until after I already put this in the other one, but I'll put it here too.

I looked at the quick help guide and I'm just not seeing any of that wrench or top banner stuff on my screen. I seem to be stuck on the mobile site maybe? Except that my url is just the normal ar15.com, and I have tried pressing the "view full site" button in the drop down menu in the corner but nothing changes. What am I doing wrong?

This is what my screen looks like atm (laptop):

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Are you sure you're logged in?
12/1/2016 5:45:01 AM EDT
[#43]
So I've bitched a bunch.
A positive is the new media server setup that allows you to upload directly while posting. Very nice.
12/1/2016 5:45:26 AM EDT
[#44]
Fix the mother fucking space bar bug already!!! It's been a month how fucking hard can it be?
12/1/2016 5:45:31 AM EDT
[#45]
Well the mobile version blows.  Switched to the web version and it looks a lot better.

ETA: and it looks like the bottom of my Avatar got cropped off
12/1/2016 5:45:48 AM EDT
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1) Not sure what causes this for random people. I assume it's a browser issue with some plugin where editable content craps out. Try the bbcode editor and it probably works because it's standard text box.

2) Fixing this now.

3) Appreciate that.

4) All pages or certain ones?

5) Work in progress on spacing.

6) How are menu's not intuitive? They have been around since the first windows/mac gui and are pretty standard things.

7) Not yet... but it has to change/update soon.
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ADD A POLL!!!!!!! BETA TESTERS should be banned WHO APPROVED this!
12/1/2016 5:46:30 AM EDT
[#47]
GBand staff..Regardless, thank you for trying to improve the forums...I am sure with some tweaks it's gonna be better ..
12/1/2016 5:46:31 AM EDT
[#48]
It takes too long to load.

The drop down menus and all the associated  extra moves suck and seriously hamper mobile use.

The colors in preferences are lacking and the highlighted thread colors are disturbingly odd and reminiscent of a 1970's board game.

Scroll, scroll, scroll away to finally view some posts, ugh.

They thread format sucks whether in vertical or horizontal format.

The look is dreadfully flat.

No more animated smileys. Seriously. Testing that

The monochromatic feel and look of the icons in the forums and on the editors are slow to discern and add to the dull, flat look.

Animated gifs are part of the character of this place.

While I certainly appreciate your efforts here I think you went too far. The look and feel of the old thread was much better and the single click buttons for subscriptions and active topics and such were extremely efficient.

I swear the only thing missing is a MIDI music intro as the site loads.


Well, you asked.       This does not feel like winning..  





Don't ban me bro'
12/1/2016 5:48:16 AM EDT
[#49]
Positive:  

1.   You got ALL your ads showing on my ad-block browser.   So there's that.

2.   Looks very good on an iPad.

3.   Looks OK.



Negatives:

1.  Sluggish.   Overall needs some optimization to have the quick page to page, scrolling, and link to link 'quickness' of the old site.

2.  Looks like shit on a large monitor.   Way too much free space.   "disconnect" between text side in messages and indexes, means we can't even realistically use broswer zoom to fix.

3.  MANY MANY MANY things users did with "1 click" before have been turned in to 2 - 3 clicks or hover/click.    These are fast navigation options that wound up nuked.   Its like if you had a car and you and to go to a touch screen and "select" the "steering" function and THEN select "left or right" to turn.   Instead of you, know, just turning.  

4.  Still too much animation and background applets, scripts, etc. going on, especially in ads, the battery impact is noticeably higher surfing the new site compared to the old.

5.  The floating topper bar is nice, but it would be better if you reserved only the 50% on the right for ads, and included some of the '1-click' options instead of just the "wrench and screwdriver" hover item for those items.   BTW, wrench and screwdriver conveys "settings" -- you should change that icon to folders, maybe something like this:



12/1/2016 5:48:23 AM EDT
[#50]
What I don't get is WHY you didn't retain our settings.
Everyone gets the ugliest fucking orange on earth scheme.
I went in and adjust, not that big of a deal, I'm pretty savy with PC stuff. I feel bad for all the people who will log in in the morning and the site will look like hammered garbage right away.

Seriously your beta testers must have sucked. You should have allowed a few days of an open beta to work out all the bugs you are fixing now, with willing participants, before fostering it on everyone.

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