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1/10/2022 8:54:11 PM EDT
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Is shingles an infectious disease?  Maybe a viral infection but so far have yet to see anyone get shingles directly from anyone else...aka chickenpox is not shingles BTW.

From a transcript of the interview that got removed to protect the narrative......

"vaccines are not effective, but they are don't have the safety profile that we hope we can achieve with this technology. But it is not only the infectious diseases that matter and there are other applications that they can help. "
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Is shingles an infectious disease?  Maybe a viral infection but so far have yet to see anyone get shingles directly from anyone else...aka chickenpox is not shingles BTW.

From a transcript of the interview that got removed to protect the narrative......

"vaccines are not effective, but they are don't have the safety profile that we hope we can achieve with this technology. But it is not only the infectious diseases that matter and there are other applications that they can help. "



If you had chickenpox, you can get shingles.

Shingles is caused by the varicella-zoster virus — the same virus that causes chickenpox. After you've had chickenpox, the virus lies inactive in nerve tissue near your spinal cord and brain. Years later, the virus may reactivate as shingles.


While you cannot give someone shingles, you can give them chickenpox if they never had it and were not vaccinated.  

A person with shingles can pass the varicella-zoster virus to anyone who isn't immune to chickenpox. This usually occurs through direct contact with the open sores of the shingles rash. Once infected, the person will develop chickenpox, however, not shingles.

Chickenpox can be dangerous for some people. Until your shingles blisters scab over, you are contagious and should avoid physical contact with anyone who hasn't yet had chickenpox or the chickenpox vaccine, especially people with weakened immune systems, pregnant women and newborns.



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1/10/2022 8:56:43 PM EDT
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In before CeO is DEBOOOONKED ???
1/10/2022 8:57:42 PM EDT
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If you had chickenpox, you can get shingles.



While you cannot give someone shingles, you can give them chickenpox if they never had it and were not vaccinated.  




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This was my point.  I will wait further to see if the video shows up but for now I will leave it at "plausible."
1/10/2022 9:05:24 PM EDT
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This was my point.  I will wait further to see if the video shows up but for now I will leave it at "plausible."
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If you had chickenpox, you can get shingles.



While you cannot give someone shingles, you can give them chickenpox if they never had it and were not vaccinated.  




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This was my point.  I will wait further to see if the video shows up but for now I will leave it at "plausible."


This is off topic but, I don’t think it would be a great comfort to someone that got chickenpox from your case of shingles.
1/10/2022 9:09:14 PM EDT
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This is off topic but, I don’t think it would be a great comfort to someone that got chickenpox from your case of shingles.
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I understand that but so far in my life I don't think I have ran into but one person that never had chickenpox.  They usually want kids to get it because as an adult it is more dangerous.
1/10/2022 9:09:24 PM EDT
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And last week multiple SCOTUS judges claimed it was perfectly effective.  


This fucking world.
1/10/2022 10:56:09 PM EDT
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"Oh man, hey once I recover from COVID, should be no problem to tack on a few extra-"
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1/10/2022 11:36:29 PM EDT
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Most notably, in a comment that has largely escaped notice, he revealed that the current COVID-19 mRNA vaccines “don’t have the safety profile” that they once hoped for.

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No he didn't. He was not talking about COVID vaccines. He was talking about launching new vaccines for different diseases and said mRNA vaccines would be safer than the existing non mRNA vaccines.

This whole thread is based on snipping his comments out of context, which is something people do when they are on a crusade but the truth is against them.

Not gonna hotlink commie NBC but if you can stand to click through here is the full transcript:

www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/first-on-cnbc-cnbc-transcript-pfizer-chairman-and-ceo-albert-bourla-speaks-with-cnbcs-squawk-box-today.html

1/10/2022 11:42:25 PM EDT
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And that right there is the damn science that the .gov and OSHA are using trying to force every working person in the US to get a fake “vaccine”.
1/11/2022 12:22:51 AM EDT
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No he didn't. He was not talking about COVID vaccines. He was talking about launching new vaccines for different diseases and said mRNA vaccines would be safer than the existing non mRNA vaccines.

This whole thread is based on snipping his comments out of context, which is something people do when they are on a crusade but the truth is against them.

Not gonna hotlink commie NBC but if you can stand to click through here is the full transcript:

www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/first-on-cnbc-cnbc-transcript-pfizer-chairman-and-ceo-albert-bourla-speaks-with-cnbcs-squawk-box-today.html

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Most notably, in a comment that has largely escaped notice, he revealed that the current COVID-19 mRNA vaccines “don’t have the safety profile” that they once hoped for.

Yes, you read that correctly.



No he didn't. He was not talking about COVID vaccines. He was talking about launching new vaccines for different diseases and said mRNA vaccines would be safer than the existing non mRNA vaccines.

This whole thread is based on snipping his comments out of context, which is something people do when they are on a crusade but the truth is against them.

Not gonna hotlink commie NBC but if you can stand to click through here is the full transcript:

www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/first-on-cnbc-cnbc-transcript-pfizer-chairman-and-ceo-albert-bourla-speaks-with-cnbcs-squawk-box-today.html


Depends on how you look at it...

Reporter question, last thing said asked this:  So tell us about this strategy for Pfizer and expanding in messenger RNA and how much of a driver of your business going forward you expect that to be?

Pfizer CEO answer: Blah Blah....we believe that there’s very high probability of delivering a solution to an unmet need not because the current vaccines are not effective, but they are don’t have the safety profile that we hope we can achieve with this technology.  But it is not only the infectious diseases that matter

Singles is not an infection disease, chickenpox yes, singles no.  How many infectious disease mRNA jabs are there if you answer the question that the report asked?  Until now there has never been this much of a safety concern about a vaccine.  I mean look at the VARES reports before 2020 and today....870% increase in one year (I think it is more than that but just took a swipe at it, more reports in the past year than in the previous 30-40, the international data shows the same.)  It gives an indication of the current mRNA jabs.

1/11/2022 1:15:48 AM EDT
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Looking at this purely from an objective viewpoint, I'm going to say I want to see the whole interview including the context for that sound bite.  Just from the small amount posted, it sounds like he was discussing their current version vs the omicron variant.  Waning efficacy would be expected in a traditional vaccine, i.e we don't use the flu shot from two years ago for this year's expected strains, but the mRNA technology and using the spike protein should have, in theory, helped mitigate this problem.  I would expect them to be collecting data all along and revising their technology and the product to better fit the current threat.  

As to the safety profile comment, again, I'll defer passing judgement on this being a bombshell revelation until I can see the whole interview but yeah, I can't help but wonder if the court order to speed up the release of documents may have something to do with the comment.  Given Pfizer's history they should have faced much more intensive scrutiny, especially when delivering new technology that the government was pretty obviously planning on forcing on people from the start.  Before someone gets pedantic, yes, making someone choose between their livelihood, being able to go out, threats of imprisonment or crippling fines, etc. and getting a shot is coercion or forcing someone to act under duress instead of in good faith.  

1/11/2022 2:27:47 AM EDT
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Martin - can you call the pfizer CEO’s extension and explain to him that the pfizer covid vaccine is safe and effective?   Pfizer CEO is spewing lies about the vaccine.
1/11/2022 2:42:36 AM EDT
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1/11/2022 2:58:50 AM EDT
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Depends on how you look at it...

Reporter question, last thing said asked this:  So tell us about this strategy for Pfizer and expanding in messenger RNA and how much of a driver of your business going forward you expect that to be?

Pfizer CEO answer: Blah Blah....we believe that there’s very high probability of delivering a solution to an unmet need not because the current vaccines are not effective, but they are don’t have the safety profile that we hope we can achieve with this technology.  But it is not only the infectious diseases that matter

Singles is not an infection disease, chickenpox yes, singles no.  How many infectious disease mRNA jabs are there if you answer the question that the report asked?  Until now there has never been this much of a safety concern about a vaccine.  I mean look at the VARES reports before 2020 and today....870% increase in one year (I think it is more than that but just took a swipe at it, more reports in the past year than in the previous 30-40, the international data shows the same.)  It gives an indication of the current mRNA jabs.

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They are launching multiple new mRNA based products including new vaccines. That's the topic, he's not talking about the COVID vaccine. He's saying new mRNA vaccines will replace less safe conventional vaccines.

Again, this whole thread is based on a misrepresentation of what he said.

Dishonesty just like the dishonest claims about VAERS.
1/11/2022 3:08:57 AM EDT
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Why isn’t this guy on the SCOTUS stand offering plaintiff testimony during the mandate hearings happening RIGHT NOW?!?
1/11/2022 4:17:47 AM EDT
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They are launching multiple new mRNA based products including new vaccines. That's the topic, he's not talking about the COVID vaccine. He's saying new mRNA vaccines will replace less safe conventional vaccines.

Again, this whole thread is based on a misrepresentation of what he said.

Dishonesty just like the dishonest claims about VAERS.
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Depends on how you look at it...

Reporter question, last thing said asked this:  So tell us about this strategy for Pfizer and expanding in messenger RNA and how much of a driver of your business going forward you expect that to be?

Pfizer CEO answer: Blah Blah....we believe that there’s very high probability of delivering a solution to an unmet need not because the current vaccines are not effective, but they are don’t have the safety profile that we hope we can achieve with this technology.  But it is not only the infectious diseases that matter

Singles is not an infection disease, chickenpox yes, singles no.  How many infectious disease mRNA jabs are there if you answer the question that the report asked?  Until now there has never been this much of a safety concern about a vaccine.  I mean look at the VARES reports before 2020 and today....870% increase in one year (I think it is more than that but just took a swipe at it, more reports in the past year than in the previous 30-40, the international data shows the same.)  It gives an indication of the current mRNA jabs.



They are launching multiple new mRNA based products including new vaccines. That's the topic, he's not talking about the COVID vaccine. He's saying new mRNA vaccines will replace less safe conventional vaccines.

Again, this whole thread is based on a misrepresentation of what he said.

Dishonesty just like the dishonest claims about VAERS.

I knew the VARES would do it.

Why has the article been removed then if it proves what your saying?  Why not show the video, 50% of communication is body language. Too bad many kids today will be way behind in the social game much less the damage that’s been done by iPads and computers.

At this point I don’t give a damn what the medical field and especially big pharma says now. They ruined their credibility, toasted, fubar, kaput. With all the injuries and now they want to claim safer than traditional, BS.  If you wanted to keep your credibility they would have told us the truth from the start, tracked the difference between FROM and WITH, not inflated the numbers like motorcycle deaths, actually treated sick people with more than go home and die. It too late now, that shit is fucked yo.  Convenient that people died within 24 hours of particularity the second jab but where not fully vaccinated until 13 days after they died.  This would have been fully vaccinated but building resistance or something other than not jabbed.

We are the trials, this shit should have been recorded with a fine tooth comb but nope, fuck it true science doesn’t matter. Only the result the jab companies paid for does.  I guess J&J didn’t pay off enough politicians because they recently got the thumbs down award. The first moderna vaccine to make to the public…what could go wrong.  I have a feeling we will find out, not to mention Pfizer that has paid the biggest ever lawsuit for false claims….hope the CEO doesn’t off himself in about 6-8 months when all the trial data get released…BY A FUCKING COURT ORDER. People have a right to know what is in it, just like nutrition facts on a box of food.

This doesn’t even cover a threat so dangerous you lock people inside their homes but yet you open the southern boarder and fly illegals all over the country without even testing many of them.  

If you wanted me to believe anything you would have ensured it was done right from the start, that ship has sailed. This will be remembered as one of the greatest fuckups of the world, congrats for trying to push the narrative that much further.

For my condition there are 7 people that were supposedly in the trial, that’s right ONLY 7. I guess I should use the “not enough to statistically matter” line or whatever ever that saying you tell people when they ask for numbers but you dodge the question.  Probably none with my blood type as I am a rare breed. If I want to really fight it, which I see happening I am still technically under a EUA still due to an * next to it. You have mix and match jabs and oh fuck it let’s give them a 4-5th booster that was never tested.  True science right there I tell you.

I will however just ask for curiosity sake, why should anyone have a reason to disregard what they see happening around them and believe the CDC, MSM, or any trial endorsed by big pharma?  I will go out and purchase on of those stomach belts while I am waiting because I don’t want to ‘bust a gut’ laughing too hard.
1/11/2022 4:38:50 AM EDT
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So why are they still advocating pumping this shit into people's bodies?
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1/11/2022 5:16:43 AM EDT
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I knew the VARES would do it.

Why has the article been removed then if it proves what your saying?  Why not show the video, 50% of communication is body language. Too bad many kids today will be way behind in the social game much less the damage that’s been done by iPads and computers.

At this point I don’t give a damn what the medical field and especially big pharma says now. They ruined their credibility, toasted, fubar, kaput. With all the injuries and now they want to claim safer than traditional, BS.  If you wanted to keep your credibility they would have told us the truth from the start, tracked the difference between FROM and WITH, not inflated the numbers like motorcycle deaths, actually treated sick people with more than go home and die. It too late now, that shit is fucked yo.  Convenient that people died within 24 hours of particularity the second jab but where not fully vaccinated until 13 days after they died.  This would have been fully vaccinated but building resistance or something other than not jabbed.

We are the trials, this shit should have been recorded with a fine tooth comb but nope, fuck it true science doesn’t matter. Only the result the jab companies paid for does.  I guess J&J didn’t pay off enough politicians because they recently got the thumbs down award. The first moderna vaccine to make to the public…what could go wrong.  I have a feeling we will find out, not to mention Pfizer that has paid the biggest ever lawsuit for false claims….hope the CEO doesn’t off himself in about 6-8 months when all the trial data get released…BY A FUCKING COURT ORDER. People have a right to know what is in it, just like nutrition facts on a box of food.

This doesn’t even cover a threat so dangerous you lock people inside their homes but yet you open the southern boarder and fly illegals all over the country without even testing many of them.  

If you wanted me to believe anything you would have ensured it was done right from the start, that ship has sailed. This will be remembered as one of the greatest fuckups of the world, congrats for trying to push the narrative that much further.

For my condition there are 7 people that were supposedly in the trial, that’s right ONLY 7. I guess I should use the “not enough to statistically matter” line or whatever ever that saying you tell people when they ask for numbers but you dodge the question.  Probably none with my blood type as I am a rare breed. If I want to really fight it, which I see happening I am still technically under a EUA still due to an * next to it. You have mix and match jabs and oh fuck it let’s give them a 4-5th booster that was never tested.  True science right there I tell you.

I will however just ask for curiosity sake, why should anyone have a reason to disregard what they see happening around them and believe the CDC, MSM, or any trial endorsed by big pharma?  I will go out and purchase on of those stomach belts while I am waiting because I don’t want to ‘bust a gut’ laughing too hard.
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I certainly support your right to make your own decision about the vaccine. You may be in some group that faces unusual risk, in which case it can be a tough call. I have a friend who has leukemia that is in remission who agonized a long time about whether or not to take it. Either choice for him was fraught with risk and the idea that a bureaucracy could decide that for him is preposterous.

None of which means the discussion should proceed by misrepresentation of the truth of things.
1/11/2022 9:32:41 AM EDT
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Was Elizabeth Holmes involved in the COVID shots much?
1/11/2022 9:51:48 AM EDT
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CDC mortality rate


Significantly more likely to die after getting boosted? Lots of big words and I’m dum
1/11/2022 2:03:22 PM EDT
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I don't. I literally recorded this with QuickTime.. exported it and uploaded it to my otter.ai transcription account because I wanted to be very careful..

Many think he was referring to the zoster vaccines on the market since Biontech and Pfizer have started talking about launching a zoster vaccine to go after GSK's market. Aka he was saying that GSK's shingrix is not safe and that his mRNA vaccines will be safe.

I laugh in his general direction.
1/11/2022 2:31:12 PM EDT
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What's it matter? You could tell people they'll need a monthly booster of X to help protect against X variant, and they'll gladly roll up the sleeve.
1/11/2022 3:09:35 PM EDT
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That's just a fuzzy anecdotal statement from the CEO of Pfizer not backed by hard scientific data. -Martin248
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He doesn't even need to log in or post here anymore.    

It seems everyone here is familiar with exactly what he will say, for any given situation.
1/11/2022 3:35:04 PM EDT
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He doesn't even need to log in or post here anymore.    

It seems everyone here is familiar with exactly what he will say, for any given situation.
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The choices are pretty limited. I got bored with him, and finally used the ignore function.
1/11/2022 6:53:09 PM EDT
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In before the massive Vaxx Injury Law suits begin.
1/11/2022 7:22:56 PM EDT
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In before the massive Vaxx Injury Law suits begin.
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In before the massive Vaxx Injury Law Suits are thrown out.
1/11/2022 7:28:37 PM EDT
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The Pfizer CEO is another conspiracy theorist. His statement about the lack of safety profile could be responsible for the vaccine hesitancy and for millions of deaths.

I will wait for America's doctor, Dr. Fauci, to set the Pfizer CEO QANONer straight.

Please Dr. Fauci let me get the 4th shot!
1/11/2022 7:29:42 PM EDT
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Vaccines are so safe the manufacture can't be sued!
1/11/2022 7:38:44 PM EDT
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The Pfizer CEO is another conspiracy theorist. His statement about the lack of safety profile could be responsible for the vaccine hesitancy and for millions of deaths.

I will wait for America's doctor, Dr. Fauci, to set the Pfizer CEO QANONer straight.

Please Dr. Fauci let me get the 4th shot!
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He believes (whether or not anyone agrees with him) that mRNA vaccines have inherently fewer side effects since they don't require a carrier virus.
1/11/2022 7:41:08 PM EDT
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He doesn't even need to log in or post here anymore.    

It seems everyone here is familiar with exactly what he will say, for any given situation.
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That's just a fuzzy anecdotal statement from the CEO of Pfizer not backed by hard scientific data. -Martin248

He doesn't even need to log in or post here anymore.    

It seems everyone here is familiar with exactly what he will say, for any given situation.

After over a decade here, he's only one out of three I've ever put on ignore. His twin brothers are there too.
No regrats!
1/11/2022 8:55:36 PM EDT
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It is clean what he said and what he meant

I see it as he knows what coming and he is looking for and avenue out
1/11/2022 10:03:38 PM EDT
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It is clean what he said and what he meant

I see it as he knows what coming and he is looking for and avenue out
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Yeah, he was answering a question about the new, non COVID vaccines that they are bringing to market. If you look at the whole transcript it is pretty clear.
1/12/2022 8:39:58 AM EDT
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The choices are pretty limited. I got bored with him, and finally used the ignore function.
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I’ve been looking for the “ignore” feature but that must only be visible to paying members.

They are quite the propagandists, that’s for sure. They load up just as much Bullcrap per day as the govt does. But it seems as though Pfizer is the govt these days.
1/12/2022 8:48:10 AM EDT
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So why are they still advocating pumping this shit into people's bodies?
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Because they are designed to fight against the original strain. The virus has mutated so far from that that the vaccines are ineffective.


So why are they still advocating pumping this shit into people's bodies?

Test subjects?
1/12/2022 8:53:32 AM EDT
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Because they are designed to fight against the original strain. The virus has mutated so far from that that the vaccines are ineffective.


So why are they still advocating pumping this shit into people's bodies?

Test subjects?


$$$$$$

Power

Division that is required for what’s coming next
1/12/2022 9:32:15 AM EDT
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I’ve been looking for the “ignore” feature but that must only be visible to paying members.

They are quite the propagandists, that’s for sure. They load up just as much Bullcrap per day as the govt does. But it seems as though Pfizer is the govt these days.
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Go to "User Info" below someone's post....it should be listed at the bottom of the list "Ignore User".

Not sure if it's a paid member feature or not....but that's where it's located.
1/12/2022 10:36:47 AM EDT
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a 39 second clip, "copyright claim"

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