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11/28/2020 7:59:09 PM EDT
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Might want to check yourself newguy.

That "non-gun guy" that wrote the article, is a known member on ARF, and a competition shooter besides what he did in the Army.

"While seeing Vortex Strike Eagles being used in combat might make some “tactical experts” gasp in disbelief, the fact is, they’re working well, and have earned the trust of the guys using them down range."
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You might want to check yourself. SF guys are not the end-all/be-all of the firearms world. The Strike Eagle is a gigantic piece of shit, and if you believe otherwise I’ve got some oceanfront property in Arizona I’d love to sell you.
11/28/2020 7:59:46 PM EDT
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He said in the OP it was Lake City ammo.
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Hornady Frontier is loaded by Lake City.
11/28/2020 8:01:58 PM EDT
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What's wrong with a strike eagle?

I have one. It's been shot a fair amount. It works.
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They blow up guns.  Just read about one today.
11/28/2020 8:02:01 PM EDT
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Might want to check yourself newguy.

That "non-gun guy" that wrote the article, is a known member on ARF, and a competition shooter besides what he did in the Army.

"While seeing Vortex Strike Eagles being used in combat might make some “tactical experts” gasp in disbelief, the fact is, they’re working well, and have earned the trust of the guys using them down range."
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Again, reading is fundamental. I was referring to the guy who used the Strike Eagle, not the guy who wrote the article.

It doesn't take a tactical expert to realize that a Strike Eagle is at about the bottom of the barrel when it comes to LPVOs, and they don't belong on fighting guns when so many better options exist for barely double the $300 cost.

I won't make any exceptions to my opinion, regardless of what a 26 year SF veteran says.

Furthermore, I am genuinely curious why they had to use privately purchased optics on the deployment mentioned. If they had access to ACOGs and Elcans, why would someone use a cheap Vortex over that? Especially if they mostly had offset RDS. I would sooner take an Elcan or a TA31 with an offset RDS over a cheap LPVO, and I would bet the glass on the TA31 or Elcan at 4x would actually allow you see clearer at distance over a wider range of environments.

I'll even go one step further. If by some travesty there are combat units deploying who aren't given optics, and they have soldiers who are so strained financially they can only afford cheap shit optics, I want to know about it. I will personally put up money to help them get decent stuff, loan them my own, or get some sort of fund drive going to support them so they don't have to deploy with garbage.
11/28/2020 8:07:35 PM EDT
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They blow up guns.  Just read about one today.
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What's wrong with a strike eagle?

I have one. It's been shot a fair amount. It works.

They blow up guns.  Just read about one today.

Cause of death- rifle got pissed it had a Strike Eagle on it and committed Seppuku.
11/28/2020 8:10:23 PM EDT
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You might want to check yourself. SF guys are not the end-all/be-all of the firearms world. The Strike Eagle is a gigantic piece of shit, and if you believe otherwise I’ve got some oceanfront property in Arizona I’d love to sell you.
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I was legitimately amazed how shitty the glass was on my strike eagle.

I get budget optics if that’s what you can afford, but there are much better budget optics available.

I love that this has become a strike eagle bashing thread now!

It’s a product that needs to die.
11/28/2020 8:20:56 PM EDT
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Bill's quick response caused me to decide that since I haven't been able to find either of the uppers I want in stock anywhere, but the Geissele website currently has available, for backorder, one of them as a whole-ass-gun, I would just go ahead and order that.

And, of course, the result is that I learned I can't navigate something as simple as the e-cart on geissele dot com. See thread in Industry, that could be alternately titled "brasscrossedrifles can't online shopping".
11/28/2020 8:23:38 PM EDT
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It was because you were using a strike eagle.

It said “oh hell no! I’m out.”
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My thoughts exactly.
11/28/2020 8:26:27 PM EDT
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They blow up guns.  Just read about one today.
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Meh. I'll keep mine. It functions perfectly well and serves the purpose for which I bought it.
11/28/2020 8:26:36 PM EDT
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Bill's quick response caused me to decide that since I haven't been able to find either of the uppers I want in stock anywhere, but the Geissele website currently has available, for backorder, one of them as a whole-ass-gun, I would just go ahead and order that.

And, of course, the result is that I learned I can't navigate something as simple as the e-cart on geissele dot com. See thread in Industry, that could be alternately titled "brasscrossedrifles can't online shopping".
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NOOOO YOU CAN'T ORDER RIFLES FROM A COMPANY THAT HAS PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT SMALL COSMETIC FLAWS ON THE INTERNET WHO NEVER SHOOT THEIR GUNS! IT UPSETS THE INSTAGRAMARINO

haha super duty go bang
11/28/2020 8:29:08 PM EDT
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Thankfully it was a Super Duty, a Standard Duty would have been reduced to a pile of shrapnel

On a serious note, that really sucks and am glad you are ok OP.
11/28/2020 8:33:50 PM EDT
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NOOOO YOU CAN'T ORDER RIFLES FROM A COMPANY THAT HAS PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT SMALL COSMETIC FLAWS ON THE INTERNET WHO NEVER SHOOT THEIR GUNS! IT UPSETS THE INSTAGRAMARINO

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Fixed it for you.

11/28/2020 8:36:52 PM EDT
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And people say the AK belongs in the trash can.
11/28/2020 8:36:54 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure the explosion was Strike Eagle related.
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... and Vortex would cover it.
11/28/2020 8:38:11 PM EDT
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One non-gun guy bought one and brought it on deployment. That hardly means it isn't a gigantic piece of garbage.
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One non-gun guy bought one and brought it on deployment. That hardly means it isn't a gigantic piece of garbage.

I remember towards the beginning of the ISIS fight that a Kurd fighter used one successfully.
11/28/2020 8:40:12 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it's always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don't mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
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Less than two hundred rounds through it. All Lake City. Third round of the third mag today it went Kaboom. Shooting steel multiple people heard the first two hits then the Kaboom. Upper is cracked, BCG stuck in the upper looks tore up, mag well expanded. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/BC75FEDC-173F-4B0B-96B1-A9ED3E2EC0D5-1705899.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/A1A25E53-92D4-440A-B272-BD1A712C191A-1705900.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/FE1C6437-B011-4D0D-8F23-5CE01D7662A2-1705907.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/86B6F57D-3678-4B58-B330-F40F27B4942E-1705908.jpg




Not the first time this happened.  So far it's always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don't mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG
another reason why Bill is the man!
11/28/2020 8:41:57 PM EDT
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And people say the AK belongs in the trash can.
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Those people are very correct.
11/28/2020 8:42:28 PM EDT
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This is one reason I don’t have a 300 Blackout
11/28/2020 8:42:46 PM EDT
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He said in the OP it was Lake City ammo.
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My money is on Hornady Frontier 55gr 5.56x45mm NATO load. Known KaBoomer. Second choice is a 300blk stuffed in there.
He said in the OP it was Lake City ammo.


FYI, Frontier 5.56 is Lake City and the 55gr offering occasionally grenades inside AR15's.
11/28/2020 8:48:49 PM EDT
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NOOOO YOU CAN'T ORDER RIFLES FROM A COMPANY THAT HAS PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT SMALL COSMETIC FLAWS ON THE INTERNET WHO NEVER SHOOT THEIR GUNS! IT UPSETS THE INSTAGRAMARINO

haha super duty go bang
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11/28/2020 8:49:44 PM EDT
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You spent that much on a rifle and put a Strike Eagle on it......why?
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Whats the big fucking deal about the strike eagle? Did tasco make it or some shit?
11/28/2020 8:50:17 PM EDT
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Okay I thought I had still had the bulk box that these came in but apparently I've shot or loaded them all up in my mags and discarded the box. The only ammo I've bought in the last three years has come from the bulk deals with mags which my other cases that I have say Federal on the box but have Lake City head stamps. I seriously doubt that it was a 300 BO that slipped in. I keep them separate and use Daniel Defense mags for the 300 BO, the ammo isn't even kept on the same side of the gun room and I've only shot the BO twice.
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I'm gonna say it was 300 BO. Only because if it was me, and I kept the ammo on the other side of the room AND use different mags.  I would swear up and down it wasn't me, to only find out it was me, cause that's just my fucking luck
11/28/2020 8:51:18 PM EDT
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Whats the big fucking deal about the strike eagle? Did tasco make it or some shit?
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You spent that much on a rifle and put a Strike Eagle on it......why?

Whats the big fucking deal about the strike eagle? Did tasco make it or some shit?

Only the best for safe queens and paper punchers here
11/28/2020 8:51:21 PM EDT
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Why some in GD are Geissele haters is truly beyond me.

You're a class act, and a true patriot!
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+1
11/28/2020 9:12:21 PM EDT
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Meh. I'll keep mine. It functions perfectly well and serves the purpose for which I bought it.
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Okay dude.  It's your life.  Shit like that would've got you killed on Guadalcanal in 1941.
11/28/2020 9:20:22 PM EDT
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50% of Americans are damn near communists.
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Only if you believe the polls.  Commies always try to look like they are larger in number than they are.
11/28/2020 9:20:28 PM EDT
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Okay dude.  It's your life.  Shit like that would've got you killed on Guadalcanal in 1941.
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lol
11/28/2020 9:22:18 PM EDT
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NOOOO YOU CAN'T ORDER RIFLES FROM A COMPANY THAT HAS PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT SMALL COSMETIC FLAWS ON THE INTERNET WHO NEVER SHOOT THEIR GUNS! IT UPSETS THE INSTAGRAMARINO

haha super duty go bang


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Nice
11/28/2020 9:25:52 PM EDT
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Super doodie
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11/28/2020 9:28:40 PM EDT
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Had you checked the headspace?
11/28/2020 9:32:19 PM EDT
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I'll take some heat off you OP for the optic :)  Sorry to see that happen and its great it will be taken care of.

I can say a strike eagle wont blow up an expensive rifle lol, I put a gen II 1-6 strike eagle and a chinese burris mount on here just to see if I would like a LPVO, sad to admit I havent changed it almost a year.

11/28/2020 9:34:51 PM EDT
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I was planning on getting a super duty. Definitely am after this thread.
11/28/2020 9:37:13 PM EDT
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Can all the strike eagle people fuck off into their thread?

Jesus christ, shut up.

OP, I'm glad you're good. Awesome of Bill & his people to step up.

I'd bet it's Frontier ammo. Or you screwed up and a 300blk snuck in there, but I'd put money on its Frontier ammo. It sucks man but clearly you'll be taken care of.
11/28/2020 9:38:03 PM EDT
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I'll take some heat off you OP for the optic :)  Sorry to see that happen and its great it will be taken care of.

I can say a strike eagle wont blow up an expensive rifle lol, I put a gen II 1-6 strike eagle and a chinese burris mount on here just to see if I would like a LPVO, sad to admit I havent changed it almost a year.

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Biden was right......... it is a dark winter.........
11/28/2020 9:40:55 PM EDT
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Biden was right......... it is a dark winter.........
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Dont feel bad the S&B scope I took off will go back on one day ;)
11/28/2020 9:41:09 PM EDT
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Whats the big fucking deal about the strike eagle? Did tasco make it or some shit?
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I have no idea.... I have 5. They have been great. My first one I have been running in 3 gun for almost 4 years. It has been flawless. Vortex has replaced 2 scopes over the years, no questions asked. That was good enough to get my first strike eagle.
11/28/2020 9:41:26 PM EDT
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The way the OP keeps referring to the ammo as some vague bulk pack ammo seems strange. Now there are no boxes and the ammo came with mags but he has no idea what kind it was. You can't look through your emails to see who you bought it from or the order details?
11/28/2020 9:44:05 PM EDT
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He is a "faceshooter" though.
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One non-gun guy bought one and brought it on deployment. That hardly means it isn't a gigantic piece of garbage.


He is a "faceshooter" though.


I tend to think of SOF guys on deployment as that, but YMMV.

As far as him being a "non-gun guy", I don't know him personally. Maybe you guys do.
11/28/2020 9:45:41 PM EDT
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I'll take some heat off you OP for the optic :)  Sorry to see that happen and its great it will be taken care of.

I can say a strike eagle wont blow up an expensive rifle lol, I put a gen II 1-6 strike eagle and a chinese burris mount on here just to see if I would like a LPVO, sad to admit I havent changed it almost a year.

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ETA: better p.e.p.r. your angus.
11/28/2020 9:50:30 PM EDT
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The company president coming to bat for the customer is one reason I have no concerns when I pimp G to other shooters.  

I have let folks shoot my CWAR more than once and that has sold triggers, not because I get paid to (I don't of course) but because the have great products and great service.  

I never hesitate to pimp my G and ALG CW stuff because it is good stuff.
11/28/2020 9:54:42 PM EDT
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Guns just do not have the safety factor engineered into them that other devices have. A normal safety factor would be like 5x. When you only have a safety factor of 1.3x some kabooms will happen and some will die. I am ok with that.
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A normal safety factor of 5x? In what?
11/28/2020 9:55:52 PM EDT
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You might want to check yourself. SF guys are not the end-all/be-all of the firearms world. The Strike Eagle is a gigantic piece of shit, and if you believe otherwise I’ve got some oceanfront property in Arizona I’d love to sell you.
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Might want to check yourself newguy.

That "non-gun guy" that wrote the article, is a known member on ARF, and a competition shooter besides what he did in the Army.

"While seeing Vortex Strike Eagles being used in combat might make some “tactical experts” gasp in disbelief, the fact is, they’re working well, and have earned the trust of the guys using them down range."


You might want to check yourself. SF guys are not the end-all/be-all of the firearms world. The Strike Eagle is a gigantic piece of shit, and if you believe otherwise I’ve got some oceanfront property in Arizona I’d love to sell you.


Absolutely, not when we have you here to set things straight.
11/28/2020 9:57:40 PM EDT
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Yeah this
11/28/2020 10:04:33 PM EDT
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Damn
11/28/2020 10:12:06 PM EDT
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Dont feel bad the S&B scope I took off will go back on one day ;)
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Biden was right......... it is a dark winter.........


Dont feel bad the S&B scope I took off will go back on one day ;)

When did Sellier & Bellot start making scopes?


I keep, I keed.  I too am a member of a strike eagle on a range toy.  I enjoy my PST scopes, but S&B is too rich for my blood.


Also, good on Bill!  That's pretty solid CS.
11/28/2020 10:23:17 PM EDT
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Funny, huh, well how about this one...

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ETA: It has one of the uppers I was going to take whichever was available first, plus the buffer and trigger I wanted. Everything else it just a bonus. Also, no, I didn't spring hundreds of dollars for special colors. Also, its going to be equipped with a 1-6 strike eagle until the scope bundle I want is back in stock. I'm not sorry.
11/28/2020 10:27:14 PM EDT
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Dear diary,

Today I learned I need to change out the bushnell 1-4x on the Noveske as apparently poors optics can lead to catastrophic failures per GD. Guess I best check the EE for a trijicon.
11/28/2020 10:31:19 PM EDT
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WTF is this shit?

1) Do you even understand what the concept of a safety factor is?
2) "5x" safety factor is not the normal.
3) WTF is this shit about "some will die and I am OK with that"
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WTF is this shit?

1) Do you even understand what the concept of a safety factor is?
2) "5x" safety factor is not the normal.
3) WTF is this shit about "some will die and I am OK with that"


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A normal safety factor of 5x? In what?



In the industry in which I work, 5x is very much a common safety factor.
11/28/2020 10:54:35 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it's always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don't mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
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This is the kind of behavior that earns loyal customers,kudos
11/28/2020 10:58:10 PM EDT
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Now I’m going to have buy something from Geissele on principle.
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Less than two hundred rounds through it. All Lake City. Third round of the third mag today it went Kaboom. Shooting steel multiple people heard the first two hits then the Kaboom. Upper is cracked, BCG stuck in the upper looks tore up, mag well expanded. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/BC75FEDC-173F-4B0B-96B1-A9ED3E2EC0D5-1705899.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/A1A25E53-92D4-440A-B272-BD1A712C191A-1705900.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/FE1C6437-B011-4D0D-8F23-5CE01D7662A2-1705907.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/86B6F57D-3678-4B58-B330-F40F27B4942E-1705908.jpg




Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG


Now I’m going to have buy something from Geissele on principle.

Ditto!

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