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11/28/2020 6:18:50 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
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Less than two hundred rounds through it. All Lake City. Third round of the third mag today it went Kaboom. Shooting steel multiple people heard the first two hits then the Kaboom. Upper is cracked, BCG stuck in the upper looks tore up, mag well expanded. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/BC75FEDC-173F-4B0B-96B1-A9ED3E2EC0D5-1705899.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/A1A25E53-92D4-440A-B272-BD1A712C191A-1705900.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/FE1C6437-B011-4D0D-8F23-5CE01D7662A2-1705907.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/86B6F57D-3678-4B58-B330-F40F27B4942E-1705908.jpg




Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG



Awesome as always!
11/28/2020 6:19:15 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG
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Less than two hundred rounds through it. All Lake City. Third round of the third mag today it went Kaboom. Shooting steel multiple people heard the first two hits then the Kaboom. Upper is cracked, BCG stuck in the upper looks tore up, mag well expanded. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/BC75FEDC-173F-4B0B-96B1-A9ED3E2EC0D5-1705899.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/A1A25E53-92D4-440A-B272-BD1A712C191A-1705900.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/FE1C6437-B011-4D0D-8F23-5CE01D7662A2-1705907.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/86B6F57D-3678-4B58-B330-F40F27B4942E-1705908.jpg




Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG



Can't beat that. Don't even have to fight with the ammo company.
11/28/2020 6:19:15 PM EDT
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If it loaded itself I don't see how it could have been a squib load on the 2nd to last round. What do you think the bore obstruction is?
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Don't think so. Was shooting steel, multiple people heard the hit.
Loaded itself.
If it loaded itself I don't see how it could have been a squib load on the 2nd to last round. What do you think the bore obstruction is?


A bullet?

If it fired OOB or was crazy overcharged the gas blowing out the ass end of the rifle could have made the bullet lose it's desire to exit the end of the barrel.
11/28/2020 6:19:40 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it's always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don't mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
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Thank you sir! I appreciate it!
11/28/2020 6:20:39 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
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You are a good man

11/28/2020 6:20:58 PM EDT
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Not being snarky, if it was an overpressure situation, why didn't the projectile leave the barrel? Unless it was so fast that the pressure relieved itself by blowing the back of the gun out before the round could leave the barrel.

What would be the likely causes?

1) Wrong round / 300 blackout mixed in?
2) Wrong powder type?
3) Wrong powder charge amount? Can you overload a 556 case so much that the explosion would be so fast the round didn't escape the barrel?
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A case head failure allows the pressure from the bore to exit the back of the case, which is kinda what this looks like.

I see Mr G has offered to rebuild it, but I would sure love to know what happened.
11/28/2020 6:20:59 PM EDT
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Whats up with this?

From the explosion or not?

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I have bulk Federal rounds that had some looking like that from the factory; multiple batches.
11/28/2020 6:21:08 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
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Geissele FTW.
11/28/2020 6:21:12 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
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Damn! Now that's what I call customer service.
11/28/2020 6:21:23 PM EDT
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Not being snarky, if it was an overpressure situation, why didn't the projectile leave the barrel? Unless it was so fast that the pressure relieved itself by blowing the back of the gun out before the round could leave the barrel.

What would be the likely causes?

1) Wrong round / 300 blackout mixed in?
2) Wrong powder type?
3) Wrong powder charge amount? Can you overload a 556 case so much that the explosion would be so fast the round didn't escape the barrel?
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#3 can’t happen. You can fill the case with any appropriate powder and crunch a bullet on top and not see anything like this.
11/28/2020 6:21:27 PM EDT
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Can't beat that. Don't even have to fight with the ammo company.
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Less than two hundred rounds through it. All Lake City. Third round of the third mag today it went Kaboom. Shooting steel multiple people heard the first two hits then the Kaboom. Upper is cracked, BCG stuck in the upper looks tore up, mag well expanded. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/BC75FEDC-173F-4B0B-96B1-A9ED3E2EC0D5-1705899.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/A1A25E53-92D4-440A-B272-BD1A712C191A-1705900.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/FE1C6437-B011-4D0D-8F23-5CE01D7662A2-1705907.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/86B6F57D-3678-4B58-B330-F40F27B4942E-1705908.jpg




Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG



Can't beat that. Don't even have to fight with the ammo company.



I would still contact them

11/28/2020 6:22:17 PM EDT
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Receiver probably needs to be re-annealed.
11/28/2020 6:23:03 PM EDT
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Not a reloader, but I have heard more than one person say this about the 556.  You cant overload one, there just isn't enough room in the case.
11/28/2020 6:24:22 PM EDT
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OP, have a pic of headstamp on ammo? This isn't Frontier ammo by chance, is it?
11/28/2020 6:24:23 PM EDT
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With the magwell blown out like that I don’t think it’s going to be reused, temper or no.
11/28/2020 6:26:50 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
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Why some in GD are Geissele haters is truly beyond me.

You're a class act, and a true patriot!
11/28/2020 6:27:19 PM EDT
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Yowza, good to hear that OP is okay. In for further discovery & happenings...
11/28/2020 6:28:50 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG
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Less than two hundred rounds through it. All Lake City. Third round of the third mag today it went Kaboom. Shooting steel multiple people heard the first two hits then the Kaboom. Upper is cracked, BCG stuck in the upper looks tore up, mag well expanded. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/BC75FEDC-173F-4B0B-96B1-A9ED3E2EC0D5-1705899.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/A1A25E53-92D4-440A-B272-BD1A712C191A-1705900.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/FE1C6437-B011-4D0D-8F23-5CE01D7662A2-1705907.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/86B6F57D-3678-4B58-B330-F40F27B4942E-1705908.jpg




Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG


That’s awesome...
11/28/2020 6:29:23 PM EDT
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Why some in GD are Geissele haters is truly beyond me.

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Truth.
11/28/2020 6:29:49 PM EDT
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Why some in GD are Geissele haters is truly beyond me.

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50% of Americans are damn near communists.
11/28/2020 6:29:49 PM EDT
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Glad you are ok, damn that was one of the green ones


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And one of the first gen greens with the SF3P.
11/28/2020 6:29:55 PM EDT
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In!!!!!!!

better call Bill
11/28/2020 6:30:30 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it's always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don't mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
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Class act.
11/28/2020 6:30:38 PM EDT
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Truth.
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Update the thread title

Bill called!!
11/28/2020 6:30:41 PM EDT
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#IWANTSUPEREXPLOSION
11/28/2020 6:30:55 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
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A very generous offer.

Jay
11/28/2020 6:31:43 PM EDT
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Mr. G, OP, please follow-up and share with us when ya'll figure out what the root cause is.  Enquiring minds wants ta know...
11/28/2020 6:32:14 PM EDT
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Sooper Doodie
11/28/2020 6:32:30 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG
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Less than two hundred rounds through it. All Lake City. Third round of the third mag today it went Kaboom. Shooting steel multiple people heard the first two hits then the Kaboom. Upper is cracked, BCG stuck in the upper looks tore up, mag well expanded. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/BC75FEDC-173F-4B0B-96B1-A9ED3E2EC0D5-1705899.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/A1A25E53-92D4-440A-B272-BD1A712C191A-1705900.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/FE1C6437-B011-4D0D-8F23-5CE01D7662A2-1705907.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/86B6F57D-3678-4B58-B330-F40F27B4942E-1705908.jpg




Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG


That's just outstanding Customer Service.

Bravo.
11/28/2020 6:32:37 PM EDT
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Guns just do not have the safety factor engineered into them that other devices have. A normal safety factor would be like 5x. When you only have a safety factor of 1.3x some kabooms will happen and some will die. I am ok with that.
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WTF is this shit?

1) Do you even understand what the concept of a safety factor is?
2) "5x" safety factor is not the normal.
3) WTF is this shit about "some will die and I am OK with that"
11/28/2020 6:32:51 PM EDT
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Hahahahahahaha!

And tell you that he called in an airstrike on your rifle. He was pissed about the optic and bipod, but I ain’t one to gossip......
11/28/2020 6:33:07 PM EDT
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Damn! Now that's what I call customer service.
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG

Damn! Now that's what I call customer service.


Yup, that's what you expect from a company like G.

Well done!
11/28/2020 6:33:26 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it's always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don't mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG
Thank you sir! I appreciate it!



Bill called you!!

Outstanding.
11/28/2020 6:34:36 PM EDT
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This looks like an ammo issue. Most KB's on semis are ammo issues.
11/28/2020 6:34:38 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG
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Less than two hundred rounds through it. All Lake City. Third round of the third mag today it went Kaboom. Shooting steel multiple people heard the first two hits then the Kaboom. Upper is cracked, BCG stuck in the upper looks tore up, mag well expanded. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/BC75FEDC-173F-4B0B-96B1-A9ED3E2EC0D5-1705899.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/A1A25E53-92D4-440A-B272-BD1A712C191A-1705900.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/FE1C6437-B011-4D0D-8F23-5CE01D7662A2-1705907.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/86B6F57D-3678-4B58-B330-F40F27B4942E-1705908.jpg




Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG

That's solid.
11/28/2020 6:36:28 PM EDT
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Awesome as always!
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Less than two hundred rounds through it. All Lake City. Third round of the third mag today it went Kaboom. Shooting steel multiple people heard the first two hits then the Kaboom. Upper is cracked, BCG stuck in the upper looks tore up, mag well expanded. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/BC75FEDC-173F-4B0B-96B1-A9ED3E2EC0D5-1705899.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/A1A25E53-92D4-440A-B272-BD1A712C191A-1705900.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/FE1C6437-B011-4D0D-8F23-5CE01D7662A2-1705907.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/237737/86B6F57D-3678-4B58-B330-F40F27B4942E-1705908.jpg




Not the first time this happened.  So far it's always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don't mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
WHG



Awesome as always!

11/28/2020 6:38:18 PM EDT
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Why some in GD are Geissele haters is truly beyond me.

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1. Muh PSA is just as good as...

2. Muh LaRue...

3. Muh black Friday shipment took forever...

All dumb as fuck.
11/28/2020 6:38:56 PM EDT
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Tagging this for ammo info.
11/28/2020 6:43:00 PM EDT
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2. Muh LaRue...

3. Muh black Friday shipment took forever...

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I have both. Each has their purpose. My 308 and my DMR (larue stealth barrel) has an MBT. My 14,5 lightweight has a MK14 and a G2S. My 11.5 has a MK8 and a BGRF. Each has it's place. I will say that Geissele and MI are my fav rails . I have never liked Mark's rails or those ugly ass stocks and grips. His stealth HBAR's and MBT is nice though.
11/28/2020 6:49:23 PM EDT
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Ammo info please sir.
11/28/2020 6:50:58 PM EDT
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these things happn
11/28/2020 6:52:36 PM EDT
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#geisseleordiebaby
11/28/2020 6:55:44 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
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If I hadn't already decided my next upper was going to be a Geissele, this would have done it.
11/28/2020 6:57:44 PM EDT
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Not the first time this happened.  So far it’s always been 300 BO involved afik  contact CS and send it in  we will fix you up with a new gun as long as you don’t mind the serviceable parts from this one used  
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That’s cool!   Bill called!
#supercustomerservice
11/28/2020 6:58:25 PM EDT
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If I hadn't already decided my next upper was going to be a Geissele, this would have done it.
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WHG


If I hadn't already decided my next upper was going to be a Geissele, this would have done it.

Yup!
EDIT: Merry Christmas to me!
11/28/2020 7:01:46 PM EDT
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Explain OOB in an AR platform please.
11/28/2020 7:02:10 PM EDT
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Since I won the upper in the giveaway I’ve gotten 2 complete guns from them. One for father-in-law (10.5 green) that was on PSA last weekend. Couldn’t be happier.
11/28/2020 7:02:50 PM EDT
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A frickin' Strike Eagle, OP?  WTF.
11/28/2020 7:03:12 PM EDT
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11/28/2020 7:04:46 PM EDT
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I really wish the author would come back with ammo mfg, type, lot number. I have a ton of LC ammo, Hornady Frontier and Hornady Steel Match I picked up for super cheap a few years ago and would LOVE to know.

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