[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not today, Sig 320, not today... (Page 3 of 3)
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Quoted: Clearly not, as if it went off EVERY time he holstered his gun he would've have gone bankrupt buying new boots. This is an occasional failure that isn't easily repeatable in a given gun, but happens at a statistically significant level across the entire installed base of SIG P320s. Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4827/IMG_0465_jpeg-3750509.JPG Should be easy to repeat if it is a design flaw and is defective…. Clearly not, as if it went off EVERY time he holstered his gun he would've have gone bankrupt buying new boots. This is an occasional failure that isn't easily repeatable in a given gun, but happens at a statistically significant level across the entire installed base of SIG P320s. Dude, its pointless to argue with a sig 320 fan.....criss cross applesauce in 4k HD or didn't happen.......or something like that. |
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So, like 25k rds of hot ass sub gun ammo to break it? |
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Quoted: Dude, its pointless to argue with a sig 320 fan.....criss cross applesauce in 4k HD or didn't happen.......or something like that. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4827/IMG_0465_jpeg-3750509.JPG Should be easy to repeat if it is a design flaw and is defective…. Clearly not, as if it went off EVERY time he holstered his gun he would've have gone bankrupt buying new boots. This is an occasional failure that isn't easily repeatable in a given gun, but happens at a statistically significant level across the entire installed base of SIG P320s. Dude, its pointless to argue with a sig 320 fan.....criss cross applesauce in 4k HD or didn't happen.......or something like that. Oh, I know - the make it happen again trope comes up so often that it's worth shooting down for other folks that read these threads. If it was easy to make happen, we'd be able to figger it out and SIG would've fixed it already w/ a 2nd "voluntary upgrade." |
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Quoted: This should've been the first post for everyone. We can't blame the gun until we know if it's user error with a modified gun,w Which is common for competition. Quoted: Quoted: "Steel Challenge..." My first question would be has the FCU been modified into a "match trigger". This should've been the first post for everyone. We can't blame the gun until we know if it's user error with a modified gun,w Which is common for competition. This is an inherent P320 design characteristic. You can't claim it's match grade modifications that cause the problems if those same modifications aren't causing problems in other gun designs. |
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Quoted: Why do people still carry that giant piece of shit? It’s not like it’s a secret that there’s absolutely a problem with the design. Anyone who still willingly carries that turd is sharing in the fault at this point. The Glock hating crowd desperately wanted their Glock killing “messiah.” The M&P did ok, but still played second fiddle to Glock, and the XD became a joke after the introduction of “grip-zone.” All other striker guns lack the market presence to make a direct comparison to Glock. When Sig won the MHS trial, it was seen as the true “Glock Killer.” Many rushed out to buy the “superior” pistol. Fast forward to today, many of these people are still too proud and would rather risk a holster pop or carry on an empty chamber than admit that the “Glock Killer” isn’t the “tier one military grade” pistol that Sig wants you to think it is. |
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Quoted: I don't trust any striker-fired pistols. The SIG Sauer P226 is widely regarded in military and law enforcement circles for having a respectable, long-term safety record, with no widespread reports of self-discharge or "uncommanded" firing in its decades of service, including its use as the Mk25 by U.S. Navy SEALs. Still, safety is always paramount. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKD0S3KhwdI&t=82s I only watched about 1 minute of that, but that's one of the stupidest videos I've ever seen. The guy pulls the trigger almost to the break point, and then is shocked that all the safety features are disabled. Obviously the safeties have to be deactivated prior to the sear releasing the striker, or else the gun couldn't fire  An actually useful test would be to see if there's a way to make the guns fire while the trigger safety is still engaged, and not pulling the trigger beyond that point. Since that's how the guns are designed to function. Spoiler alert, they won't go off. Striker fired guns aren't inherently unsafe...well except the 320... |
 Sig 320 FIXED by grayguns new mod Grey Guns has introduced a trigger w/ a dingus for the 320. |
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Assuming the trigger was not touched by anything for this to happen not only would the striker have come of the sear the striker would need to have bypassed the striker safey. Seeing as how the striker safety is specifically there to prevent unintentional discharge should the striker come off the sear this seems like 2 big issues. When I think of striker fired I think of Glock. When a Glock is ready to fire the striker is not pulled all the way back. As you pull the trigger it pulls the striker back, building spring pressure and then releases. Also, the striker safety does not disengage till right before the striker is let go. How does Sig do it? When its ready to fire is the striker fully loaded up with enough force to set a round off? If thats the case could it be possible the striker it hitting the striker safety so hard it just pushes it out of the way? Im just trying to visualize this. If what I said is the case I wonder if loose slide to frame fit or large tolerances could be at fault? Maybe both? Like jiggling the slide can cause the striker to come off the sear and if the striker is fully loaded up it has enough force to bump the striker safety boy of the way? I dont know. Just throwing out ideas. Regardless Sig really can't keep ignoring this. I dont know if anyone has died yet but it seems like its only a matter of time. |
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SIG offered the tabbed trigger in 2014. They just never produced it. All four of these 2014 articles talk about it. SIG Sauer P320 Duty Pistol Even has a picture here. Gun Review: Sig Sauer P-320 Reviewing the Sig P320 If a trigger-tab on the 320 is utterly superfluous More on the SIG P320 Handgun. Here is a video at 2014 SS. With a SIG rep saying they offer a tabbed trigger and a standard trigger. Tony Caspers from SIG Sauer gives an overview of the P320 Video from SIG Sauer USA showing the tabbed trigger. I can't find this video on SIG's youtube channel.  Introduction to the SIG Sauer P320 |
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...which will only help prevent UDs caused by unintended contact with the trigger face. Does zip zilch nothing for a theoretical tolerance issue with the sear happening at the same time as the sear safety gets sticky. |
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Quoted: ...which will only help prevent UDs caused by unintended contact with the trigger face. Does zip zilch nothing for a theoretical tolerance issue with the sear happening at the same time as the sear safety gets sticky. Quoted: ...which will only help prevent UDs caused by unintended contact with the trigger face. Does zip zilch nothing for a theoretical tolerance issue with the sear happening at the same time as the sear safety gets sticky. Striker safety, but I would agree. Looks like there's some debris shielding on the design, though. I'm wondering if the metal aftermarket frames allow less flex & a tighter slide to rail interface, would seem if there was less flex be less likely to let go. |
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Quoted: trying to figure out how he hit the INSIDE of the right foot if he was not AIWB carrying... if its in a belt holster it shoulda hit the outside of the shoe Quoted: Quoted: At least he was not appendix carrying. trying to figure out how he hit the INSIDE of the right foot if he was not AIWB carrying... if its in a belt holster it shoulda hit the outside of the shoe Unless he's left handed and that's the outside of his left boot. |