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12/4/2023 8:44:00 PM EDT
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I agree, they distract from the trijicon's red dot. All black is best.
12/4/2023 8:44:03 PM EDT
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you must not do a lot of night stuff. I think they are worth it just for finding the gun on my nightstand in the dark and knowing how to grab it without guessing.

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If you can PID your target you can see your sights. We don’t use them on rifles, and we don’t need them on pistols.
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12/4/2023 8:44:47 PM EDT
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hunt from the shadows like a ninja and you'll see their use
12/4/2023 8:52:46 PM EDT
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This comment is moronic enough that you should be banned for how grossly negligent it is.
12/4/2023 8:55:15 PM EDT
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Joglee thread
12/4/2023 8:57:29 PM EDT
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If you need to aim, you have already lost.
This comment is moronic enough that you should be banned for how grossly negligent it is.


He agrees with OP
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12/4/2023 8:59:58 PM EDT
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If you can PID your target you can see your sights. We don’t use them on rifles, and we don’t need them on pistols.
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Also, men can become "pregnant" ??(as of about 3 years ago, when something changed).
12/4/2023 9:02:40 PM EDT
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Fact. OP is wrong.
12/4/2023 9:03:55 PM EDT
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Damn. Maybe Tim should offer a lesson on threat identification/avoidance.
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Tom Givens students have been in like 60 plus shootings. He doesnt see a need for weapons lights or night sights as a CCWer.

Damn. Maybe Tim should offer a lesson on threat identification/avoidance.
His school was in Memphis.
12/4/2023 9:20:05 PM EDT
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Agreed!
12/4/2023 9:21:35 PM EDT
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double so
12/4/2023 9:37:02 PM EDT
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Agreed!
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If you can PID your target you can see your sights. We don’t use them on rifles, and we don’t need them on pistols.



Agreed!


Found another one!  Look at the join date…….
12/4/2023 9:50:46 PM EDT
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12/4/2023 9:55:35 PM EDT
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12/4/2023 10:01:39 PM EDT
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12/4/2023 10:05:15 PM EDT
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I really prefer to simply look over at my bedside table and see 3 green dots looking back at me.  I know exactly where my sidearm is at that moment.
12/4/2023 10:05:50 PM EDT
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you must not do a lot of night stuff. I think they are worth it just for finding the gun on my nightstand in the dark and knowing how to grab it without guessing.

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you must not do a lot of night stuff. I think they are worth it just for finding the gun on my nightstand in the dark and knowing how to grab it without guessing.

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If you can PID your target you can see your sights. We don’t use them on rifles, and we don’t need them on pistols.

100%
12/4/2023 10:35:55 PM EDT
[#18]
Can't believe OP has never heard of handheld and/or pistol mounted lights...
12/4/2023 10:40:44 PM EDT
[#19]
Not worthless

I prefer fiber optic front paired with black rear

Red dot is the best option for me though…
12/4/2023 10:44:10 PM EDT
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These threads really bring out the ones that watch YouTube and read forums instead of actually going out and shooting in conditions other than solid daylight.
12/4/2023 11:00:16 PM EDT
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OPs statement does not correspond with my experience.
12/4/2023 11:25:46 PM EDT
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I think being more able to see your sights would be better than less in all scenarios. If you want to say they're overpriced, that's a separate conversation.
12/4/2023 11:26:16 PM EDT
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LOL.
12/4/2023 11:27:03 PM EDT
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
12/4/2023 11:29:01 PM EDT
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You're clueless. You can see a target in a lit area and be in the dark yourself. Have you never looked out of a cave, cellar or unlit building?

I have to admit I laughed when I saw that.

I've shot several courses in caves.  The night sights were nice, but more lumens was more better.
12/4/2023 11:29:44 PM EDT
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We’ve used them on rifles in combat and I’ve used them on pistols.

I’m comfortable with them and will continue to use them.
12/4/2023 11:31:40 PM EDT
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I've shot several courses in caves.  The night sights were nice, but more lumens was more better.
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You're clueless. You can see a target in a lit area and be in the dark yourself. Have you never looked out of a cave, cellar or unlit building?

I have to admit I laughed when I saw that.

I've shot several courses in caves.  The night sights were nice, but more lumens was more better.

#allthelumens
12/4/2023 11:31:54 PM EDT
[#28]
Distinguished gentlemen, you have once again swarmed an issue and set the perpetrator on the correct course. You never cease to impress me. Carry on and until next time, Godspeed.
12/4/2023 11:45:15 PM EDT
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Some would argue any sights on pistols are worthless. Pistols are for point shooting brigands robbing the telegraph office.

I'm pretty sure the majority of fighting rifles issued to American pros today have some kind of illuminated reticle.

Most violent crime happens after dark. Low light training is hard to come by for us ordinary civilians. Take advantage of it if the opportunity arises.
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Huh? I've been to a few and there are often blocks in no low light focused classes.
12/4/2023 11:48:06 PM EDT
[#30]
Someone is too poor to afford night sights and wants to convince everyone else to come down to his level.
12/5/2023 12:44:02 AM EDT
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I totally miss-read that as: “op has never taken a hostage outdoors in the dark”…
12/5/2023 12:47:36 AM EDT
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Tom Givens students have been in like 60 plus shootings. He doesnt see a need for weapons lights or night sights as a CCWer.
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Not sure who Tom givens is.  

Solely based on this info, he's certainly retarded.
12/5/2023 12:51:39 AM EDT
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I had a shooting instructor give a slightly different take on night sights.  He didn't like them.  Not because they don't work, but because they do work.  You can hit things you haven't identified.  If you have a light, like you should, and i.d. the target, then you don't need night sights.  I had to admit it made some sense.  Still, I have night sights on some pistols because once the target is located and identified, I can switch off the light and still make hits.
12/5/2023 12:51:58 AM EDT
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I'v seen some interesting points made, and  discussions begun by OP...
But in this instance, joglee, you are  genuinely, unquestionably mistaken.

12/5/2023 12:52:50 AM EDT
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This is GD so I can say this is the most retarded thing I’ve heard in ages.
12/5/2023 1:44:33 AM EDT
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I'v seen some interesting points made, and  discussions begun by OP...

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12/5/2023 11:07:50 AM EDT
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If you can PID your target you can see your sights. We don’t use them on rifles, and we don’t need them on pistols.
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The dumbest thing I have read online today.

OP gets his experience from video games and YouTube


I live in a rural area with no light pollution. When it is dark here, it's DARK. Everyone I know uses a headlamp on a nightly basis.

I have sacked up God knows how many 'coons using night sights. They work great.

I also appreciate them while traveling....wake up in a hotel room slightly disoriented....that glow on the nightstand is my pistol....
12/5/2023 11:10:20 AM EDT
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No one who actually goes out and shoots in the nighttime would ever suggest such nonsense!  They help immensely.  

Normally the people who make these wild claims are either over-the-top red dot proponents or people who lack the will or the skill to change out their sights.
12/5/2023 11:17:04 AM EDT
[#39]
Have you ever tried shooting your pistol at night? Night sights absolutely help, regardless of how well lit your target is.
12/5/2023 11:23:33 AM EDT
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Agreed!

Now we have two of them, soon we will have a pack of them running loose around here.
12/5/2023 11:27:31 AM EDT
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Enough light on my target to id does not necessarily mean any light on my sights.
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FPNI
12/5/2023 11:28:27 AM EDT
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Strange that everyone I've ever seen deride night sights always think they're going to be used in pitch black.
12/5/2023 11:31:44 AM EDT
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12/5/2023 11:34:07 AM EDT
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These threads really bring out the ones that watch YouTube and read forums instead of actually going out and shooting in conditions other than solid daylight.
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...and sunny...and 75 degrees...
12/5/2023 1:19:15 PM EDT
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Strange that everyone I've ever seen deride night sights always think they're going to be used in pitch black.
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People over look using them in mixed lighting with suspects wearing dark color clothing
12/5/2023 1:24:03 PM EDT
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12/5/2023 1:56:07 PM EDT
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Not sure who Tom givens is.  

Solely based on this info, he's certainly retarded.
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Tom Givens students have been in like 60 plus shootings. He doesnt see a need for weapons lights or night sights as a CCWer.
Not sure who Tom givens is.  

Solely based on this info, he's certainly retarded.
Nope. He's debriefed a ton of people who prevailed in gunfights.
12/5/2023 5:58:35 PM EDT
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Nope. He's debriefed a ton of people who prevailed in gunfights.
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Tom Givens students have been in like 60 plus shootings. He doesnt see a need for weapons lights or night sights as a CCWer.
Not sure who Tom givens is.  

Solely based on this info, he's certainly retarded.
Nope. He's debriefed a ton of people who prevailed in gunfights.



So kinda like a modern Massad Ayoob?
12/5/2023 6:00:22 PM EDT
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Nope. He's debriefed a ton of people who prevailed in gunfights.
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Tom Givens students have been in like 60 plus shootings. He doesnt see a need for weapons lights or night sights as a CCWer.
Not sure who Tom givens is.  

Solely based on this info, he's certainly retarded.
Nope. He's debriefed a ton of people who prevailed in gunfights.

Kinky
12/5/2023 7:23:13 PM EDT
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It's kinda bizzare some of you guys never heard of Tom Givens / Range Master.

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