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Didn't Cohen say that he would not accept a pardon from Trump? I wonder if he still stands by that...? Quoted:
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This? I'm just to simple to get how this gets 3 years...other than it's an associate of Trump tried in NYC. |
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Eh, it's a bit more than that. The presidents personal lawyer is sentenced to 3 years in prison for crimes that he and the dept of justice agree were committed at the direction of the president. Can debate whether or not either of them thought or knew it was illegal, but happened non the less. Yea Hillary and others should be dragged in front of a judge too, but it doesn't change the fact or outcome. If they truly went after her, they would find nothing on anyone, either side. |
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Eh, it's a bit more than that. The presidents personal lawyer is sentenced to 3 years in prison for crimes that he and the dept of justice agree were committed at the direction of the president. Can debate whether or not either of them thought or knew it was illegal, but happened non the less. |
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Which brings us to the real message at the heart of all these investigations - don't talk to the feds, about anything. Literally say nothing. Because they'll talk you into lying about a crime you didn't even commit, which then becomes the crime. Quoted:
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Can someone explain to me how it's a campaign finance violation to use your own money to pay women that you had affairs with to keep quiet? Does Congress have a slush fund for that exact thing?  Even if it is illegal despite all that, how does being the lawyer that handled the transaction become illegal? He misstated simple/stupid things like saying an email was sent on a different date then it was actually sent on. Imagine being interrogated for hours (I think they said his "interview" was over 70 hours total) and asked repeatedly about dates/times on stuff that happened years ago while the person asking you has all the dates/times in front of them. |
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Eh, it's a bit more than that. The presidents personal lawyer is sentenced to 3 years in prison for crimes that he and the dept of justice agree were committed at the direction of the president. Can debate whether or not either of them thought or knew it was illegal, but happened non the less. Yea Hillary and others should be dragged in front of a judge too, but it doesn't change the fact or outcome. |
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Eh, it's a bit more than that. The presidents personal lawyer is sentenced to 3 years in prison for crimes that he and the dept of justice agree were committed at the direction of the president. Can debate whether or not either of them thought or knew it was illegal, but happened non the less. Yea Hillary and others should be dragged in front of a judge too, but it doesn't change the fact or outcome.
You just made a massive jump in assumptions. At no time has anyone EVER admitted that Trumps' pay out on extortion attempt was "a crime". So your entire statement falls flat on the facts. |
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Three years? Doesn't sound like he cut much of a plea deal. The big wheel guy got 16 years but got out around 10. So this woman who I know spent 1/3rd of the time in prison compared to the guy three levels above her. Not sure what the sentencing guidelines dictated. Bottom line, if they want you they got you. Cohen loses three years and might have to testify to lefties in Congress and then he's free. |
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Depends. My wife's coworker cut a deal with the DOJ and she got three. She was the first to roll up a money laundering and bank fraud case. The big wheel guy got 16 years but got out around 10. So this woman who I know spent 1/3rd of the time in prison compared to the guy three levels above her. Not sure what the sentencing guidelines dictated. Bottom line, if they want you they got you. Cohen loses three years and might have to testify to lefties in Congress and then he's free. Quoted:
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Three years? Doesn't sound like he cut much of a plea deal. The big wheel guy got 16 years but got out around 10. So this woman who I know spent 1/3rd of the time in prison compared to the guy three levels above her. Not sure what the sentencing guidelines dictated. Bottom line, if they want you they got you. Cohen loses three years and might have to testify to lefties in Congress and then he's free. |
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Eh, it's a bit more than that. The presidents personal lawyer is sentenced to 3 years in prison for crimes that he and the dept of justice agree were committed at the direction of the president. Can debate whether or not either of them thought or knew it was illegal, but happened non the less. Yea Hillary and others should be dragged in front of a judge too, but it doesn't change the fact or outcome. |
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The president directed cohen to lie? That's proven how? Quoted:
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Eh, it's a bit more than that. The presidents personal lawyer is sentenced to 3 years in prison for crimes that he and the dept of justice agree were committed at the direction of the president. Can debate whether or not either of them thought or knew it was illegal, but happened non the less. Yea Hillary and others should be dragged in front of a judge too, but it doesn't change the fact or outcome. |
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It's a NeverTrumper account, here only for that. Have fun using logic with it. Quoted:
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Eh, it's a bit more than that. The presidents personal lawyer is sentenced to 3 years in prison for crimes that he and the dept of justice agree were committed at the direction of the president. Can debate whether or not either of them thought or knew it was illegal, but happened non the less. Yea Hillary and others should be dragged in front of a judge too, but it doesn't change the fact or outcome. |
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The prosecution asserted that Trump ordered the payments, and the judge agreed - so not sure what you are on about. Go read it. Quoted:
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Add the press release that the SDNY just dropped regarding their non-prosecution agreement with AMI and you can start to see the picture that the Southern District is painting... |
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Could someone give me - or point me to - the executive summary on this "possible Trump Tower Moscow project"? |
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Could someone give me - or point me to - the executive summary on this “possible Trump Tower Moscow project”? |
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Add the press release that the SDNY just dropped regarding their non-prosecution agreement with AMI and you can start to see the picture that the Southern District is painting... |
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No I can’t. Please go into detail what exactly will happen and what Trump is guilty of. Quoted:
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Add the press release that the SDNY just dropped regarding their non-prosecution agreement with AMI and you can start to see the picture that the Southern District is painting... You now have both Cohen and AMI stating that the dispersion of funds was done to influence the 2016 campaign. |
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Except they were not crimes. He was prosecuted for lying about them. There were no crimes involved. If there were, please do tell. Quoted:
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The Democrat trolls here as well as the partisan unhinged prosecutors in New York intend on gaslighting people into believing Cohen(plead guilty to a non-crime) committed a (fake)crime without laying out the actual text of the (real)law and explaining in their own words how he and Trump committed a (real)crime. They won't respond as to what law was broke. They know damn well it doesn't exist. Quoted:
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The SDNY is chipping away at any possible "John Edwards" defense to the scheme... You now have both Cohen and AMI stating that the dispersion of funds was done to influence the 2016 campaign. Quoted:
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Add the press release that the SDNY just dropped regarding their non-prosecution agreement with AMI and you can start to see the picture that the Southern District is painting... You now have both Cohen and AMI stating that the dispersion of funds was done to influence the 2016 campaign. And this gets us to Russian collusion how? |
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You've haven't given up on Mueller yet, have you? Are you jumping ship to SDNY now? Quoted:
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So... he plead guilty to illegal campaign finance laws, laws that he did not break, to receive a pass on tax invasion laws he broke with businesses that had nothing to do with Trump. Just so he can give Trump a black eye... Where is the collusion? |
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So the gotcha now is Trump paid off someone to sign a NDA, like he has done many many times, with a willing person, with money not linked with campaign funds. And this gets us to Russian collusion how? Quoted:
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Add the press release that the SDNY just dropped regarding their non-prosecution agreement with AMI and you can start to see the picture that the Southern District is painting... You now have both Cohen and AMI stating that the dispersion of funds was done to influence the 2016 campaign. And this gets us to Russian collusion how? |
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I haven't been following this closely, but has there been a trial? Did he take a plea deal and still got 3 years? What type of white collar crime would warrant a 3 year sentence after a plea deal? Hell people have embezzled millions and gotten of way easier than that.
This seems to be getting out of hand, and Trump is at fault for allowing it to go on under HIS justice department. .... 
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