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Quoted: Creepiest place Ive ever been was when I took a friend into Grand Rapid for some appointment. I had nothing to do so I decided to walk around. It was sometime in the fall so it was getting dark a little early. I took off walking about an hour before dark I'd guess. I made it less than a block and I began to notice none of the lawns looked well maintained. Thought that was weird. Then I started to realize there was litter everywhere. Empty bottles of booze, empty cigarette packs, all sorts of other assorterd debris. I didnt see many people out an about, but every one I did was black. I made it some more blocks away and up ahead I could see a party store that was set back off the street with a large parking lot in front of it. The parkign lot was full of all black people just standing around I guess drinking. I decided to not walk by them, because Im white and I think they'd know I wasnt from there. Most of them are probably cool, but it only takes one drunk with some bone to pick and I'd have trouble because Im sure he has friends. Anyway I walked a bit further, passed some people. I'd greet them and they'd ignore me. Like ok then, this is why people dont want to live by you, you're rude. Walked by some kids that were probably drug dealers. Just sitting on their bikes on the corners. Now the creepy part. What was mostly quiet and not a lot of people started to get busier and busier. I thought that's weird, it's getting dark. It was literally becoming more active as the sun went down. People were coming in and out of houses. Groups were gathering on porches. I decided then I should probably make my way back to my car. Quoted: Quoted: Living in a heavily wooded, sparsely populated area is significantly creepier, IMO. At least you have plenty of visibility with a desert. Creepiest place Ive ever been was when I took a friend into Grand Rapid for some appointment. I had nothing to do so I decided to walk around. It was sometime in the fall so it was getting dark a little early. I took off walking about an hour before dark I'd guess. I made it less than a block and I began to notice none of the lawns looked well maintained. Thought that was weird. Then I started to realize there was litter everywhere. Empty bottles of booze, empty cigarette packs, all sorts of other assorterd debris. I didnt see many people out an about, but every one I did was black. I made it some more blocks away and up ahead I could see a party store that was set back off the street with a large parking lot in front of it. The parkign lot was full of all black people just standing around I guess drinking. I decided to not walk by them, because Im white and I think they'd know I wasnt from there. Most of them are probably cool, but it only takes one drunk with some bone to pick and I'd have trouble because Im sure he has friends. Anyway I walked a bit further, passed some people. I'd greet them and they'd ignore me. Like ok then, this is why people dont want to live by you, you're rude. Walked by some kids that were probably drug dealers. Just sitting on their bikes on the corners. Now the creepy part. What was mostly quiet and not a lot of people started to get busier and busier. I thought that's weird, it's getting dark. It was literally becoming more active as the sun went down. People were coming in and out of houses. Groups were gathering on porches. I decided then I should probably make my way back to my car. "Uuuggghhhh, I tell ya.....they only come out at night!" Walking down the bike path at dusk is always interesting. This part of the path is sandwiched between forest preserves and the river. You're quite a ways from civilization or help, should you need it. No body is around. When it's still light out you pass by bunches of people and bicyclists, usually you make eye contact and give a nod, say "hey, how's it going?" But once the light starts getting low, folks become more closed off. You say "hey" and they just kinda look at you funny, or completely ignore you. It starts getting real dark and they're completely silent, looking at the ground, and giving you the side-eye. If you say ANYTHING to them, they look at you like you're a verified threat, so either really scared or like they're ready to fight you. Complete darkness and they just act like you're not there. Plenty of times I can see their body language start to curl into themselves, like they're crawling back into their shell with anxiety and fear. All within like 20 minutes. |
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Quoted: Living in a heavily wooded, sparsely populated area is significantly creepier, IMO. At least you have plenty of visibility with a desert. 1000% yes. Make it jungle and it's 5000% yes. The open sea when it's quiet is the creepiest to me though. Personally I find the desert the least spooky of any natural environment. There is nowhere to hide for most stuff, lots of visibility all around, and generally lots of silence, so you can hear just about everything. Peoples who want to be outside of society tend to find far-off places, the desert is no different, but personally the creepiest stuff/people I've come across have been in the PNW forest. I imagine the backwoods of the East Coast can have a similar vibe, but I'm a West Coaster for life ha. |
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Quoted: 1000% yes. Make it jungle and it's 5000% yes. Personally I find the desert the least spooky of any natural environment. There is nowhere to hide for most stuff, lots of visibility all around, and generally lots of silence, so you can hear just about everything. Peoples who want to be outside of society tend to find far-off places, the desert is no different, but personally the creepiest stuff/people I've come across have been in the PNW forest. I imagine the backwoods of the East Coast can have a similar vibe, but I'm a West Coaster for life ha. Two words: West Kentucklefucky. |
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Mrs Rabinowitz is basically an eastern seaboard girl. She likes rivers, trees, roads, people, etc. We took a trip through a bit of the Southwest some years ago. Part of the trip was through the Texas Panhandle in an area that is stunningly flat and treeless. Roads would go straight for miles and you would rarely see another vehicle. She had a full-blown panic attack. Later she said that she lost her sense of direction and movement because you would drive and nothing would change. I had to get her off the road and change places with her. It took a while, but we eventually saw some ravines, buildings, and trees. I, on the other hand, love the prairie....except when the wind blows. |
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It’s bad man. I have 8’ fence with 3 strands of barbed wire. Attached File |
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I never understood how beautiful a desert could be until I moved down here. The sunrises and sunsets just feel better. As mentioned when you have a bright moon out it's amazing. It reminds me of Alaska with a moon out over the water. It can be a bit spooky sometimes. Coyotes speaking their mind will get your attention. It's one of those things where people just stop what they are doing and listen for a while. Quoted: This. Quoted: Quoted: Living in a heavily wooded, sparsely populated area is significantly creepier, IMO. At least you have plenty of visibility with a desert. This. There's definitely something to that. When I was in Juneau you just assumed every noise was a bear about to eat you because you couldn't see shit. |
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I discovered the valley of the shifting, whispering sands While prospecting in a Western state I saw the silent windmills, the crumbling watertanks The bones of the cattle picked clean by buzzards Bleached by the desert sun I stumbled over a crumbling buckboard nearly covered by the sand And stopping to rest, I heard a tinkling, whispering sound And suddenly realized that, even though the wind was quiet The sand did not lie still I seemed to be surrounded by a mystery so heavy and oppressive I could scarcely breathe For weeks I wandered aimlessly in the valley Seeking answers to the many questions that raced through my mind Where was everyone? Why the white bones? The dry wells? The barren valley, where people must have lived and died? I sat down and buried my face in my hands And, resting, I learned the secret of the shifting, whispering sands How I managed to escape from the valley, I don't know But, now to pay my debt for being saved I must tell you what I learned out on the desert, so many years ago --Johnny Cash |
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Quoted: I've lived in both the AZ and CA desert in the past (five years in each) and the only thing that sometimes got tiresome was the wind. The heat/cold here fine, as was the lack of humidity but there are times I'd really like to turn the wind machine off. What were the temp swings? |
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Quoted: Depends on the season. In "Fall" it can be huge, in mid-winter or mid-summer not so much. 76* drop from high to low (96*-14*) is the most I recall in one 24-hr period, that drop actually took place over 12 hours. Quoted: Quoted: What were the temp swings? Depends on the season. In "Fall" it can be huge, in mid-winter or mid-summer not so much. 76* drop from high to low (96*-14*) is the most I recall in one 24-hr period, that drop actually took place over 12 hours. That’s crazy. |
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Quoted: The scariest is to not hear anything, then turn on a light and find you're not alone because some critter managed to move next to you silently, or waking up in the morning and seeing cougar tracks coming right up to a window and never having known they were there.  Pee-wee's Big Adventure (1985) Eyes In The Dark A Light Of Glasses & Screaming With The Animals???? |
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I loved visiting the desert. We used to visit our friends land in Thousand Palms. Near Palm Springs. There was a dry river bed nearby. At night, you could hear it flowing. It would evaporate during the day & run underground, then at night, temps drop (some of the coldest nights ive been in have been in the desert), the water would flow on the surface. I was stationed MCAGCC 29 Palms for awhile. It was fun. We were out on a range for a few days and watched Hale-Bopp through NVG's which was cool. But you could see it with your naked eye. I remember, being on radio watch on a mountain with my buddy. He was sleeping on his ALICE pack, I was just chilling listening to radio traffic, I heard rustling from my friend & thought he was waking up. Turned my red light on... a coyote was half inside his pack, tearing up some MRE's. Lol I started yelling and throughing rocks, my buddy started freaking out & the yote took off fast. Never felt creeper out. |
The outdoors is weird and spooky until you work out there. Then you realize it’s got rules just like any other place. Just have basic understanding of the rules and you’ll get along fine.  Midnight On The Road Of Good And Evil FS by FredMan, on Flickr BI1026 Brer Rabbit by FredMan, on Flickr
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Quoted: Everything here in AZ is out to get you - thorn laden trees, cacti, venomous snakes and lizards, stinging creatures, predatory birds day and night - fuggedaboudit. AZ is closed. https://i.imgflip.com/agd1cm.jpg I'll take rattlesnakes, scorpions, tarantulas, and whatever else we have here over biting flies, ticks, fire ants, hornets, chiggers, and whatever else shit the forest has. Fuck that shit. |
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Horrible, Horrible place! Scary too.... Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: So I took my Uv flashlight out in the yard here in Georgia. No scorpions. But there were lots of weird centipedes that glowed. Everywhere on ground. Ive lived here for 25 years. Never once seen one of these centipedes without the Uv. Now that I'm old and I've lived here for for decades. I rarely go outside at night unless I have to lol |
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Quoted: I never understood how beautiful a desert could be until I moved down here. The sunrises and sunsets just feel better. As mentioned when you have a bright moon out it's amazing. It reminds me of Alaska with a moon out over the water. It can be a bit spooky sometimes. Coyotes speaking their mind will get your attention. It's one of those things where people just stop what they are doing and listen for a while. There's definitely something to that. When I was in Juneau you just assumed every noise was a bear about to eat you because you couldn't see shit. We went camping a couple years ago when we moved to NV(have since moved). We were at Pyramid Lake, and the coyotes started talking around 0200. My wife woke me up in a panic, worried they were going to try to get in our tent. I told her to ignore them they won’t mess with us and go to sleep. She was very uneasy about that 
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Quoted: We went camping a couple years ago when we moved to NV(have since moved). We were at Pyramid Lake, and the coyotes started talking around 0200. My wife woke me up in a panic, worried they were going to try to get in our tent. I told her to ignore them they won’t mess with us and go to sleep. She was very uneasy about that Other side of my west fence line is BLM land with nothing out there. We throw moldy hay over the fence. Open range cattle like it and can eat it but we won't feed it to the horses. Often coyotes will come very close and sing us the song of their people. Personally I think it's pretty cool. I love it here. |
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Quoted: Every weird show deserts are always spooky living there . Do you ever get creeped out living there ? Hidden caves that were the battleground of long forgotten wars with Red Headed Giants, to abandoned mines filled with Rare Earth Minerals, from secret bases with at base secret aircraft, worst case, living extraterrestrial beings and their tech in massive underground bases built into the side of a mountain, to lone hermits in mountain top hide outs living freer then most people dream of. Where law enforcement is hours away if not a concept, a place free of meddling busy bodies, moralist do gooders, and the full spectrum of trouble makers. Something very beautiful about the desert, it will make you or break you. Oh, this is hell. For the weak ones. For the strong, This is heaven on earth. |
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Quoted: The opinion I have developed regarding living in the desert hasn't really changed since watching the movie Gargoyles as a teenager. you and me both!! I was a young teen when I saw this movie in the very early 80's. Holy smokes, it scared the crap out of me. I watched it again a few months ago and just laughed at how silly it is. |
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Quoted: That’s crazy. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What were the temp swings? Depends on the season. In "Fall" it can be huge, in mid-winter or mid-summer not so much. 76* drop from high to low (96*-14*) is the most I recall in one 24-hr period, that drop actually took place over 12 hours. That’s crazy. I don't know what the actual numbers are but it's similar here in the Reno area. If you take into account driving up into the surrounding mountains you can basically be in a different world in 30+ minutes. There's been many days where I've been out riding my motorcycle in a t shirt or hoody and then woke up to a snow covered frozen car. Or you wake up to a good bit of snow and go to work but by the time you leave the roads are not only clear but dry enough you wouldn't even know it snowed. I show this pic a lot for it's shock value. It's at Tahoe. 5-10 minutes over a hill and the roads were dry and another 10-15 minutes it was warm( over 60) with clear skies. It's wild. Attached File |
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I grew up in the Mojave Desert town of Barstow, the neighbors were the now closed George AFB(Victorville) & March AFB(San Bernardino). Edwards AFB(Palmdale) is 100 miles away to the west. Ft Irwin NTC & Goldstone Tracking Station was just outside of town. And just on the outside of town there is the USMC's largest supply depot west of the Mississippi. Many of my high school friends worked there until they retired. Also the USMC's 29 Palms was 100 mile away. Unfortunately my old hometown today has deteriorated tremendously due to Section 8 housing. In the summer it would regularly get >100°F, and would drop to a very pleasant 70°F or so at night. In the winter it would get down into the low-20s, with a high in the 50s or so. |
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Quoted: The desert isnt really creepy, it is desolate and unforgiving. Especially if you’re not accustomed to it. I’ve always liked it but never slept out in it. Had a creepy experience conversation around the fire pit last week. One story was night fishing on the ocean. Pretty far out and sparsely populated area so just a few distant lights. No noise besides the lapping of water on the hull. Thump! Thump! on the side of the boat. After a long time of silence, that thumping scared him shitless Turned out to be a derelict dingy that floated up against him. Growing in NC, I’ve always liked the desert. It’s just different and interesting. Last trip out west was to Vegas and the surrounding desert was desolate but interesting geology. |
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New Mexico has a frog/toad thing called the "spade foot." They only mate when it has been really wet. You can spend a decade there and never see them... Then, middle of the darkest moonless night you ever saw... you start hearing these weird "eeps" and whistling sounds. They are coming from EVERYWHERE and you can't see a damn thing. Fire up a flashlight and the whole ground around you is lit with millions of glowing eyes. As far as your flashlight will shine. Scared the piss out of me.  My grandpop brought me a frog the next evening. He was stll laughing about it days later. |
| I wouldn’t call it creepy. I’ve worked and camped all over the desert southwest alone and love it. I find it peaceful looking out over the sage in the dark and hearing the sounds of night. Sometimes I’ve ended up camped too close to some weirdos, but that’s not really creepy to me, just annoying and I move on to somewhere else. |
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Quoted: New Mexico has a frog/toad thing called the "spade foot." They only mate when it has been really wet. You can spend a decade there and never see them... Then, middle of the darkest moonless night you ever saw... you start hearing these weird "eeps" and whistling sounds. They are coming from EVERYWHERE and you can't see a damn thing. Fire up a flashlight and the whole ground around you is lit with millions of glowing eyes. As far as your flashlight will shine. Scared the piss out of me. My grandpop brought me a frog the next evening. He was stll laughing about it days later. |
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Desert is a little weird when you drive in areas where the temperature suddenly drops. High to low elevations, sometimes even a 10 foot deep draw, will sometimes result in 20 degree differences. Feels weird and biologically stands up fur for cold, same as fear response, sometimes makes things seem freaky for "no reason"... but it's just chilly. Quoted: ummmmm just you wait https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/b9/21/8db921879f4dc0410d721fd3bc130c4b.jpg My rec room is ready. |
| I don't know been here 6 months, I haven't made up my mind. I miss water. They try and tell you there's lakes here, but they're all pretty sad looking. Whole lot of people that want to drink water and keep their lawns green here that would be awful fucked if snow pack and rivers in to the valley dried up one year. |