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6/24/2019 1:24:50 AM EDT
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/06/18/new-zealand-mosque-shooting-philip-arps-gets-21-months-sharing-video/1485091001/

A Christchurch businessman who shared a video of worshippers being slaughtered at a New Zealand mosque was sentenced on Tuesday to 21 months in prison.

Philip Arps had earlier pleaded guilty to two counts of distributing the video, which was livestreamed on Facebook by a gunman on March 15 as he began killing 51 people at two mosques.

Christchurch District Court Judge Stephen O’Driscoll said that when questioned about the video, Arps had described it as “awesome” and had shown no empathy toward the victims.

The judge said Arps had strong and unrepentant views about the Muslim community and had, in effect, committed a hate crime. The judge said Arps had compared himself to Rudolf Hess, a Nazi leader under Adolf Hitler.

“Your offending glorifies and encourages the mass murder carried out under the pretext of religious and racial hatred,” the judge said.

O’Driscoll said Arps had sent the video to 30 associates. The judge said Arps also asked somebody to insert crosshairs and include a kill count in order to create an internet meme, although there was no evidence he’d shared the meme.

Under New Zealand laws aimed at preventing the distribution of objectionable material, Arps faced up to 14 years imprisonment on each count.

In other cases, at least five other people were also charged with illegally sharing the shooting video. An 18-year-old was jailed in March while the others weren’t kept in custody. The teen is accused of sharing the video and an image of the Al Noor mosque with the words “target acquired.” He is next due to appear in court on July 31.

The judge said Arps had argued he had a right to distribute the video under the banner of freedom to pursue his political beliefs.

Arps’ lawyer Anselm Williams told the judge that Arps should not be sent to prison.

“It’s my submission that this court needs to be very careful to sentence Mr. Arps based on what it is that he has actually done, and what he accepts he has done, not on the basis of the views that he holds,” Williams said.

After the hearing, Williams said Arps had filed an appeal against his sentence at the High Court, but declined to comment further.

Australian Brenton Tarrant, 28, last week pleaded not guilty to 51 counts of murder, 40 counts of attempted murder and one count of terrorism in the mosque shooting case. His trial has been scheduled for next May.

New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has helped lead a global pledge named the “Christchurch Call,” aimed at boosting efforts to keep internet platforms from being used to spread hate, organize extremist groups and broadcast attacks. New Zealand has also tightened its gun laws and banned certain types of semi-automatic weapons since the attack.
6/24/2019 1:26:50 AM EDT
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The revolution will not be televised.
6/24/2019 1:30:09 AM EDT
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Well they certainly found the most unsympathetic evil peckerhead they could to prosecute over this stupid law.
6/24/2019 1:32:03 AM EDT
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That’s surely the honest truth
6/24/2019 1:32:16 AM EDT
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The people of New Zealand should politely ask for some freedom.
6/24/2019 1:32:28 AM EDT
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Yep.
6/24/2019 1:32:35 AM EDT
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That's insane.

New Zealand is a total Communist, totalitarian state.
6/24/2019 1:35:53 AM EDT
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She just smiled and gave me a twenty-one month sentence.
6/24/2019 1:37:07 AM EDT
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6/24/2019 1:38:35 AM EDT
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The article says another 88 was jailed. Sounds like they incarcerate the white supremacists who share the video but "only" arrest other people and let them out on bail if they share the video.
6/24/2019 1:44:43 AM EDT
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It would be great if we could say we don't have to worry about such blatant communism in this country but I vividly remember The Obama immediately arresting and throwing in jail the guy who made the video about Muhammad that was fake blamed for the murder of 4 Americans in Benghazi on September 11, 2011.  A bunch of terrorists in a country we were throwing support to raid our embassy, kill the Ambassador and 3 other American servicemen and the only person to pay a price was a completely innocent YouTuber here in the USA.  To this day NO ONE has been brought to justice (that I know of) for Benghazi.  Especially the evil America hating communist bitch Hitlery.
6/24/2019 1:45:05 AM EDT
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Thoughtcrime.
6/24/2019 1:48:37 AM EDT
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Easy enough.  Out of an entire nation (even a tiny one) you’re going to have some dirt bags to use as reasons for oppression.

I’m guessing just like most gun laws the intent is to hang a potential huge sentence over someone’s head to make sure everyone shuts up.  That’ll guarantee no public dissent in the future.
6/24/2019 1:49:59 AM EDT
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Now thats some tyrannical shit justifying use of force against the rulers.
6/24/2019 1:52:06 AM EDT
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Commies got to make an example out of someone. And he was an easy one to go after. Yet he did plead guilty based on their fucked up laws. We are lucky to have the First Amendment and the Second Amendment yet the commies are trying their best to destroy the Second so they have no resistance to take over. Sadly no one knows that history always repeats itself. What is going on now happened in Germany after WWI and Russia after WWII. Take the firearms away then easy to take over and destroy a country.
6/24/2019 1:54:11 AM EDT
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Yeah, we know, he's a lawyer.
6/24/2019 1:59:51 AM EDT
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Wonder how much time in New Zealand jail one would get if they shared video of jihadi murders (like the beheading of Daniel Pearl)?

Any guesses?
6/24/2019 1:59:54 AM EDT
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Which let's be honest, today in NZ and the US, is any white guy with a gun.
6/24/2019 6:01:26 AM EDT
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Is this not similar to the prosecution of individuals that share child pornography?
6/24/2019 6:05:48 AM EDT
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Citizens vs subjects.
6/24/2019 6:08:17 AM EDT
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Cool, thought crime, for real
6/24/2019 6:10:27 AM EDT
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If people would just follow the narrative put forth by the government with an agenda, opposed to following a constitution, nobody would end up loosing things like freedom of speech and end up in jail. Of course freedom of speech in this case is what the gov says it is. Bet if it was a Catholic church the video would be out there.
6/24/2019 6:11:39 AM EDT
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FIFY
6/24/2019 6:14:25 AM EDT
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New Zealand has been Authoritarian Socialist for a very long time.
6/24/2019 6:16:40 AM EDT
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Watching the video makes it impossible to believe the official narrative.

It's like watching "Shawshank Redemption" and, regardless of how the movie made you feel, everyone starts talking about the scene where the White House blew up.

It simply didn't happen.
6/24/2019 6:20:31 AM EDT
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Which let's be honest, today in NZ and the US, is any white guy with a gun.
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Which let's be honest, today in NZ and the US, is any white guy with a gun.
NZ is 74% White European. You can swing a cat and hit a White Dude in any direction. NZ is Whiter than the United States.

Also shows that the Anglophone Speaking World isn't exactly freedom loving. Look at how Authoritarian New Zealand, Australia, Canada, and the UK are. No freedom of speech, no right to bear arms, no right to privacy, and an overbearing oligarchy of Labour Parties pushing Fabian Socialism.

The Kiwis have over a century of history electing Socialists into power.
6/24/2019 6:26:42 AM EDT
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Reminds me of that scene from the John Wayne movie Rio Grande IIRC
Soldier calls Sargent   Quincanan a

Chowder Headed Mick Sargent

Sargent ask him
Did you say that?
Yes sir.
Did you mean it?
Yes sir.

At least he was honest
6/24/2019 6:51:58 AM EDT
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Ah so it was an offensive thoughtcrime.  That makes it ok.
6/24/2019 8:58:30 AM EDT
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hmmmmmmmm
6/24/2019 8:59:52 AM EDT
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Damn!
6/24/2019 9:04:02 AM EDT
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Holy shit, they are going full China.
6/24/2019 9:11:22 AM EDT
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Orwellian
6/24/2019 9:12:51 AM EDT
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Just waiting for New Zealand to surrender to an unarmed Chinese PLAN "fishing boat".  Because they would.
6/24/2019 9:17:05 AM EDT
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@Aimless

True, but freedom has to apply to even the most unsympathetic evil peckerheads or it isn't really a freedom if it is only selectively granted to only those "favored few"...
6/24/2019 9:18:08 AM EDT
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it is very dangerous to punish a dog for growling.  the dog growls as a warning before it is upset enough to bite.  when you eliminate growling you eliminate your warning
6/24/2019 9:18:54 AM EDT
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No 1st amendment in NZ would be my guess
6/24/2019 9:19:51 AM EDT
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NZ has a "Chief Censor".

You want Orwellian; read what their chief censor has said about prohibiting the possession of the shooter's manifesto.

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Those who have the publication for legitimate purposes, such as reporters, researchers and academics to analyse and educate can apply for an exception.

To those people Mr Shanks (chief censor) would say: "Destroy and delete copies that they currently hold, but to apply to us immediately for an exemption that will allow exactly those sorts of individuals who have a right to have access to this publication and have a genuine public interest in reviewing and assessing it."

For how long the copies can be held will be decided on a case by case basis.

He said those who were upset about the document being classified as objectionable could appeal the decision.

"We live in a free society."
So, war IS peace...
6/24/2019 9:21:35 AM EDT
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Free speech

Most countries say they have it, but very few actually do.
6/24/2019 9:23:19 AM EDT
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China has directly invested in candidates in both major political parties.
6/24/2019 9:23:59 AM EDT
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New Zealand, doing exactly what the shooter wanted them to.
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The entirety of the Anglophone world minus the US doesn't have a freedom of speech clause.
6/24/2019 9:33:34 AM EDT
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NZ has a "Chief Censor".

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He and, anyone who's held the position in the past or holds it in the future, should be permanently banned from entering the U.S.
It is antithetical to our Constitution.
6/24/2019 9:36:23 AM EDT
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Mate the Aussies and Kiwis are not the same... both suck, except their women, which are both AWESOME!
6/24/2019 9:40:23 AM EDT
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It would be great if we could say we don't have to worry about such blatant communism in this country but I vividly remember The Obama immediately arresting and throwing in jail the guy who made the video about Muhammad that was fake blamed for the murder of 4 Americans in Benghazi on September 11, 2011.  A bunch of terrorists in a country we were throwing support to raid our embassy, kill the Ambassador and 3 other American servicemen and the only person to pay a price was a completely innocent YouTuber here in the USA.  To this day NO ONE has been brought to justice (that I know of) for Benghazi.  Especially the evil America hating communist bitch Hitlery.
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Truth
6/24/2019 9:41:48 AM EDT
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I’m sure he’ll come out of this much more sympathetic to the plight of their Muslim community
6/24/2019 9:43:57 AM EDT
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Ruin a guys life for sharing a video?

21 months in prison would dismantle everything I’ve spent my adult life building.

Whether this guy is a pseudo Nazi or not, this sentence has social engineering written all over it.
6/24/2019 9:44:54 AM EDT
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Hmmm. Haven't clicked on the link in ages and the only link to the video that I had appears to be nuked.
6/24/2019 9:48:04 AM EDT
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wrong country
6/24/2019 9:51:54 AM EDT
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Speeds things up a bit.  Almost a year from now for the trial...May.
6/24/2019 9:57:28 AM EDT
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Is this not similar to the prosecution of individuals that share child pornography?
No, it isn’t, concerned 14er without a single EE transaction.
6/24/2019 10:01:08 AM EDT
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Well put.

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