[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Let’s make an AER9 Laser Rifle clone from the Fallout Game (4th PSA Space Force Lower Build) (Page 1 of 5)
Posted: 7/22/2021 12:12:32 AM EDT
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The folks that follow the “Palmetto State Armory has lost another customer” thread (maybe a few others), know I have a horrible tendency to bastardizing the AR-15 platform when creating “unique” builds. I get that my designs are not for everyone. Some like em, some hate em, some probably don’t care either way. But I enjoy building stuff, and I like to think outside the box. I’ve done three builds from the PSA Space-Force meme line (samples below). I have the remaining lowers to work with on this new build, SPACERIDER-15, SPACEWALKER-15, SPACEPIRATE-15. I’ve been told there is an obscure reference to a "SPACEWALK" in the Fallout game, so I'm liking the WALKER lower for this build. Attached File I will definitely be basing the theme on the Fallout series of games (have my reasons), so please do not add info for other games, I can;t use that. For those who say "just play the game", I haven’t played video games since most of them shifted to first person shooter style (they mess with my equilibrium somehow, make me dizzy). So, I could really use some reference guidance. Question 1: What are some of the more popular firearms in Fallout? Does not have to be related to the AR, or even a rifle, I can get creative. Doesn’t have to be for a specific release, any version of Fallout is GTG. Question 2: What are some of the most popular symbols, logos, emblems, or things found on Fallout firearms, or even good reference material, color schemes, or good guy bad guy related stuff? Pics or links are good, thanks in advance! Space-Force meme builds thus far Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File -UPDATE 1 [7-26-21]: GOING WITH THE BRN-180 UPPER Still looking for some input, but I have decided on the Fallout 3-4 basic Laser Rifle for this build. It will likely include the Brotherhood of steel logo, along with a few other indirect references for the PSA lower (still not 100% sure on which of those to use yet). The Laser Rifle does not have a buffer tube. I will use a 10" BRN-180 / 300BLK upper for this project. Lots of milling, I ordered just under 20 pounds of different sized 6061 (likely about 2-3 pounds of finished materials and a crap ton of chips). -UPDATE 2 [8-2-21]: BRN-180 DISASSEMBLY & LOCTITE Page 2 -UPDATE 3 [8-6-21] DESIGN MOCK-UP AND RAIL BLOCK -UPDATE 4 [8-9-21] FRONT RAIL AND BARREL SHROUD -UPDATE 5 [8-13-21] RAIL GRIP AND LOWER PARTS -UPDATE 6 [8-16-21] THE HAND GRIP ASSEMBLY Page 3 -UPDATE 7 [8-22-21] BACK SECTION OF THE UPPER RAIL -UPDATE 8 [8-23-21] BOLT CATCH ASSEMBLY -UPDATE 9 [8-24-21] LOWER END PLATE ASSEMBLY -UPDATE 10 [8-25-21] MAGAZINE RELEASE BUTTON & BRASS UPPER RAIL INSERT -UPDATE 11 [8-26-21] CHARGING HANDLE & DUST COVER -UPDATE 12 [8-28-21] THE OPTIC & MOUNT -UPDATE 12 [8-30-21] PREP, BLAST, PAINT UPDATE [9-2-21] LOGOS, MARKING, AND EASTER EGGS UPDATE [9-3-21] Righteous Authority! The finished Rifle! Page 4 UPDATE [9-12-21] Small improvements UPDATE [10-28-21] That Stock Though! Page 5 |
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Vault Boy is probably the most recognizable image and easy to outline on a lower. The T-45 helmet is also iconic, but harder to do in a small size. Best of all would be if you could do the VaultTec door where the serial number is the vault number. Attached File |
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You can look at the internet movie firearms database and scope out the guns of the Fallout franchise. Take a look at New Vegas, in particular. There's four or five AR platforms you could clone build. Bonus points for a clone of Maria, Benny's BHP or A Light Shining In Darkness, Joshua Graham's Commander 1911. ETA I know you don't play games, but you indicated that is due to 1st person perspective. Most (maybe all) of the new Fallout games, since 3, should have an over the shoulder, or 3rd person perspective option. And 1, 2 Tactics, and Tactics:BoS are an isometric perspective. Maybe you wouldn't have the nausea? |
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The first one you suggested definitely looks like the Institute Laser Rifle from Fallout 4 Another one that MIGHT be doable is the Gauss Rifle from the same game. Of course, you could cheat and build a Handmade Rifle from NukaWorld, which is pretty much an AK47 ETA: if you really want to tie in the spacewalk thing, you need a hot chick to play Nuka Girl, with the above mentioned Institute Rifle. |
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"Another settlement needs your help..." |
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Fuck Fallout 76 with Pelosi's dildo. That being said, an old school gauss gun build would be fucking awesome Fallout 2 M72 Gauss Rifle https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Gauss_rifle_  
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Fallout is an odd story as far as aesthetics. Super advanced technology that looks like something out a 50's era World's Fair. Good news is there's a few AR style rifles in New Vegas. The basic NCR service rifle was just an A2 with wood furniture. As far as a space walk, I don't really remember anything other than commander Deguerre (sp?) from 76. |
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The single most iconic gun I can think of from Fallout is the 5.56 revolver - which would be somewhat technically challenging in real life. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/5.56mm_pistol_ |
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OP, you could always do the "Handmade" fallout AK, in the game it's 5.56 but here's an easy way to make one Attached File PSA G3 rifle Muzzle nut Have badelementco cut down a slabside to 20 rounds Shovel stock Left side charging handle modification Pretty sure you can find an ambi safety for it, or make one Steel wool and water makes it rusty Idk what country of origin the grip is but I swear I've seen them before Either a Chinese hooded front sight or make your own |
 Jayne Cobb talking about Vera |
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Quoted: The single most iconic gun I can think of from Fallout is the 5.56 revolver - which would be somewhat technically challenging in real life. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/5.56mm_pistol_ The shoulder forces the cartridge back against the breach, causing the cylinder to freeze up. to make one work you would need to have some weird mechanism to (maybe) move the breach back for each shot, or something. Bottlenecks are hard to do in revolvers. |
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Quoted: Vault Boy is probably the most recognizable image and easy to outline on a lower. The T-45 helmet is also iconic, but harder to do in a small size. Best of all would be if you could do the VaultTec door where the serial number is the vault number. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501092/images_png-2023430.JPG What is the story behind the vault door and serial? I've seen a few different numbers similar when researching (101 111 76) Also, this will not be just a branding type build. Aside from the barrel, BCG, internal guts, and the Lower, I will make everything else. Even machine a new housing for an optic if necessary. |
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Quoted: A Minuteman lower would be cool https://i.imgur.com/aRIxS5U.png Or the Brotherhood of Steel https://i.imgur.com/aaOeDIC.jpg Background for these two logos? |
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Quoted: You really should play the Fallout games, I envy you for not having yet. They're some of the greatest videogames ever made. https://i.imgur.com/BgQ7aWj.jpg This was going to be my exact suggestion , I love this build |
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There was a DLC for fallout 3 (Mothership zeta)where you are on an alien ship. It was pretty fun None of the alien weapons looked close to an AR though. |
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Quoted: You really should play the Fallout games, I envy you for not having yet. They're some of the greatest videogames ever made. https://i.imgur.com/BgQ7aWj.jpg That wood furniture is perfect on that rifle. |
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Attached File The gauss rifle might be something easy to base off an AR platform as well. Especially if you use an AR9 lower to get that area "correct" in the maxwell compared to the picture |
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Quoted: What is the story behind the vault door and serial? I've seen a few different numbers similar when researching (101 111 76) Also, this will not be just a branding type build. Aside from the barrel, BCG, internal guts, and the Lower, I will make everything else. Even machine a new housing for an optic if necessary. Vaults were underground Fallout shelters built by the Corporation Vault-Tec, built all around the country. The numbers denote specific Vault locations from various games. The player character (typically) was a resident of one of these vaults, and left for whatever story reason, to adventure in the post nuclear wasteland. Of course, many of the vaults were secretly conducting experiments on the residents, because reasons. As an example 101 was in D.C, 111 in Boston, and 76 in West Virginia. Those were all Vaults player characters originated from in specific games, but there were others in each game that could be found and explored. They always have a story to them, usually pertaining to the experiments. A good one to read on is Vault 11 Maybe reading up on some of the lore, and major groups might help with some ideas. There's plenty of content on You Tube dealing with lore and the Fallout universe if you prefer that route, and could be helpful visually with some of the iconography. |
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I think Fallout Boy wouldn’t appeal to that many because it’s just a symbol of the game. It should be based on a faction or from a company within the game. BoS, Gun Runners, Minutemen, Vault-Tec, Robco, one of the Casinos, the twins selling energy weapons outside Vegas, or maybe something security from Sierra Madre or the lab of Dr Mobius might carry? Nuka Cola! Maybe as a prize to some lucky kid that gets the blue star cap. |
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Quoted: Fuck Fallout 76 with Pelosi's dildo. That being said, an old school gauss gun build would be fucking awesome Fallout 2 M72 Gauss Rifle https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Gauss_rifle_ https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KAZ0OOU9PCI/maxresdefault.jpg https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZ6PWxcfAa4HOX_MCwFJjDMYSAKv6D-4G5g0DFOgfrfTWO_VsLz-yxYGTA_KoclG763P4&usqp=CAU https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/48/8a/d7488ab6d329e2c4c35e18aa245c8e67.png 
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Quoted: Wait, I was under the impression that you had at least played the early games. I may have read it wrong. Vaults were underground Fallout shelters built by the Corporation Vault-Tec, built all around the country. The numbers denote specific Vault locations from various games. The player character (typically) was a resident of one of these vaults, and left for whatever story reason, to adventure in the post nuclear wasteland. Of course, many of the vaults were secretly conducting experiments on the residents, because reasons. As an example 101 was in D.C, 111 in Boston, and 76 in West Virginia. Those were all Vaults player characters originated from in specific games, but there were others in each game that could be found and explored. They always have a story to them, usually pertaining to the experiments. A good one to read on is Vault 11 Maybe reading up on some of the lore, and major groups might help with some ideas. There's plenty of content on You Tube dealing with lore and the Fallout universe if you prefer that route, and could be helpful visually with some of the iconography. Quoted: Quoted: What is the story behind the vault door and serial? I've seen a few different numbers similar when researching (101 111 76) Also, this will not be just a branding type build. Aside from the barrel, BCG, internal guts, and the Lower, I will make everything else. Even machine a new housing for an optic if necessary. Vaults were underground Fallout shelters built by the Corporation Vault-Tec, built all around the country. The numbers denote specific Vault locations from various games. The player character (typically) was a resident of one of these vaults, and left for whatever story reason, to adventure in the post nuclear wasteland. Of course, many of the vaults were secretly conducting experiments on the residents, because reasons. As an example 101 was in D.C, 111 in Boston, and 76 in West Virginia. Those were all Vaults player characters originated from in specific games, but there were others in each game that could be found and explored. They always have a story to them, usually pertaining to the experiments. A good one to read on is Vault 11 Maybe reading up on some of the lore, and major groups might help with some ideas. There's plenty of content on You Tube dealing with lore and the Fallout universe if you prefer that route, and could be helpful visually with some of the iconography. Yeah, the most interesting parts of the vaults is the incredibly unethical experiments carried out within on unwitting test subjects. It worth noting the US of 2077 (the year the bombs fell) was a place where ethics in business and science were basically non-existent. There were a few control vaults (actually housed people to rebuild society after the end of the world) but most were for various testing. 76 (from Fallout 76) was one such vault. Vault 22 (New Vegas) was interesting because of the GECK like plant growth, despite the absence of a Geck. Stumbling upon what looked like a rainforest in the middle of the Mojave was a wild sight. Vault 81 was for testing the spread and effect of various lab grown pathogens in hopes of making a universal vaccine. Vault 34 had a massive armory and its residents would form the heavily armed and reclusive tribe known as the Boomers when they took over the remnants of Nellis. There's a lot of them though. Here's some reading if you don't mind spoiling a little story (that's directed at OP, I know you're familiar with all of these). https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Vaults |
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The Minutemen, literally an army of one! |
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Quoted: The Minutemen, literally an army of one! Quoted: The Minutemen, literally an army of one! A settlement needs your help... Kharn |
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Quoted: You really should play the Fallout games, I envy you for not having yet. They're some of the greatest videogames ever made. https://i.imgur.com/BgQ7aWj.jpg Hey, I recognize that rifle!  Some clarification on this one - that rifle is a clone of an actual game weapon from Fallout New Vegas, the Service Rifle: Attached File The in-game weapon is slightly different in that it's a side charger and has a funky top mounted ejection cover. I've found a source for wood A2 style grips; just need to get around to ordering one. |
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Quoted: Lets talk about the green/ yellow colored Laser rifle used in Fallout. Someone mentioned it above. It seems a lot of folks build some sort of variation out of foam or wood, they are all over YouTube. Relevance to the game, variations? If this is what you're referring to, it's a basic laser rifle. They're most common among the Brotherhood. A few other groups, like the Van Graffs, are also fond of them. 
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Quoted: I think you should play the games (Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 4) plus DLC (particularly for New Vegas) and then reassess. Otherwise this seems particularly disingenuous. Disingenuous is a little rough, I'd play if I could. The more I research Fallout, the more I'm interested. One doesn't have to be an active participant in a thing, to appreciate it. Samurai history has always intrigued me, but I'll never be Samurai. |
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Quoted: If this is what you're referring to, it's a basic laser rifle. They're most common among the Brotherhood. A few other groups, like the Van Graffs, are also fond of them. https://assets.gamepur.com/images/feature/Wazer-Wifle.png Yep, I am liking this a lot. |
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Quoted: Disingenuous is a little rough, I'd play if I could. The more I research Fallout, the more I'm interested. One doesn't have to be an active participant in a thing, to appreciate it. Samurai history has always intrigued me, but I'll never be Samurai. |
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Quoted: The first two games are late 90's top-down, turn based games. Both are cheap and easy to run on non-gaming machines, and I imagine wouldn't cause issues with motion sickness due to the perspective. GOG (Good Old Games) is running a sale on Bethesda games this weekend. You can pickup Fallout and Fallout 2 for a total of $6. |
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Quoted: A Minuteman lower would be cool https://i.imgur.com/aRIxS5U.png Or the Brotherhood of Steel https://i.imgur.com/aaOeDIC.jpg Brotherhood of Steel for sure. |
There's always Raider14's Pipe-rifle inspired build.  https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Raider14-s-post-apocalyptic-Fallout-and-Mad-Max-inspired-AR-build-thread--TL-DR-in-the-OP-now/5-1980024/ And the link to Sublimeshooter's build thread in that post is cool as well. |
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Quoted: There's always Raider14's Pipe-rifle inspired build. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Raider14-s-post-apocalyptic-Fallout-and-Mad-Max-inspired-AR-build-thread--TL-DR-in-the-OP-now/5-1980024/ And the link to Sublimeshooter's build thread in that post is cool as well. That thread was a trip.
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Quoted: The first two games are late 90's top-down, turn based games. Both are cheap and easy to run on non-gaming machines, and I imagine wouldn't cause issues with motion sickness due to the perspective. Thank you very much. I figured all of the games were in the same view. Also didn't realize the first one was released in 97, thought they were newer than that. Wiki should have been my first visit. I went ahead and picked up 1-3, price can't be beat. |
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Quoted: There's always Raider14's Pipe-rifle inspired build. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Raider14-s-post-apocalyptic-Fallout-and-Mad-Max-inspired-AR-build-thread--TL-DR-in-the-OP-now/5-1980024/ And the link to Sublimeshooter's build thread in that post is cool as well. Thanks for the link. I think the SPACEPIRATE-15 lower would be good for that type of build. |