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1/14/2025 11:38:20 PM EDT
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it might save ludicrous amounts of weight.
1/14/2025 11:39:03 PM EDT
[#2]
Would JMB, Mauser, Garand, Stoner, Kalishnakov,  or any of the other famous designers done this?  I'm going with no.
1/14/2025 11:42:20 PM EDT
[#3]
Ahh. Kel tec. The company that supplies crack cocaine to their R&D department then asks them "what you got?". It's the American way.
1/14/2025 11:44:24 PM EDT
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I know a couple guys trying to load for it, it's apparently a PITA.
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How hard is it to reload 5.7x28?

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I know a couple guys trying to load for it, it's apparently a PITA.

4.6x30 is more conventional...just needs necked up to 5mm
1/14/2025 11:46:19 PM EDT
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Bypassing detachable magazine capacity state bans?  Don’t shit on them for giving options…
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1/14/2025 11:47:16 PM EDT
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1/14/2025 11:54:27 PM EDT
[#7]
isn't kel tec mostly range toys anyway
1/15/2025 12:10:55 AM EDT
[#8]
Eh, i blew copenhagen out of my nose
1/15/2025 12:14:09 AM EDT
[#9]
As far as making one in 4.6, as soon as you do the AP ammo will dry up...
Actual AP in a handgun is an ATF no no, and that's why you can't find AP 9mm anymore.
1/15/2025 12:57:29 AM EDT
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They donated some SUB2000s to Ukraine - so combat tested?

I carried a Gen 1 in .40 for a long time, then replaced it w/ a Gen 2 in 9 - very hand truck gun, backpack gun.  I have a .32 for pajama carry.
1/15/2025 1:19:26 AM EDT
[#11]
I should buy a Keltec. Not this one, but on principle
1/15/2025 1:43:04 AM EDT
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^ my first thought.  Getting ahead of any bans and bypassing their gay laws so they have to write new ones.
1/15/2025 1:47:40 AM EDT
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They should give them a bonus coke ration instead.
This thing is glorious. Keltec keeps the innovation coming when the rest of the industry stagnates.
1/15/2025 1:49:02 AM EDT
[#14]
Ha!
1/15/2025 1:49:33 AM EDT
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If only they had cloned the broomhandle.
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If only they had cloned the broomhandle.

I had really hoped it would be a modernized broom handle in 5.7. That would have been sick.
1/15/2025 1:58:35 AM EDT
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I bought one of these and a box of. 380
ball. jammed so much I finished the box
of ball one at a time in my g19 plinking.
long ago.

kinda like Charlie brown with the football
on this. do I fo or find other shit to do
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Grendel P-10 came out in 1988.

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I bought one of these and a box of. 380
ball. jammed so much I finished the box
of ball one at a time in my g19 plinking.
long ago.

kinda like Charlie brown with the football
on this. do I fo or find other shit to do


My P-10 runs great even if ugly as sin.

Never ever even think about stripping the frame down on a P-10.
1/15/2025 2:08:58 AM EDT
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I’ve wanted a Steyr Hahn 1912 for a while….if this thing is cheap enough, it might scratch that itch

1/15/2025 2:09:54 AM EDT
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If kel tec ever decides to actually just increase quality of materials by about 40% they would be in a completely different tier. Their r&d and designs are some of the most unique and interesting in the market. If only there quality matches they would be amazing.
1/15/2025 2:11:14 AM EDT
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Ugly enough to be a Ruger design
1/15/2025 2:12:46 AM EDT
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1/15/2025 2:12:53 AM EDT
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Odd design. I'm love the "because We can" spirit they have.
Look at the things that they have pioneered .
P3at, polymer mouse .380,  
the sub 2000 folding carbine taking glock mags,
Rfb rifle forward ejecting  bull pup,
Wmr30 30 roujds of .22 win mag pistol
The weird .22 mag carbine with wire stock
Sub16 5.56 folding piston ar mag and bolt, on an Ak
Action with nato mags, AR bolt, storage of a single mag with the rifle, breaks down to small and portable  bug out bag gun.
R50(and pistol version). 5.7 rifle that takes 50 Round mags.
Ksg dual magazine shotgun thing, (might be a South African design though).

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They are HIGHLY underrated only because the quality of the execution is designed to cut costs
1/15/2025 2:14:15 AM EDT
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They donated some SUB2000s to Ukraine - so combat tested?

I carried a Gen 1 in .40 for a long time, then replaced it w/ a Gen 2 in 9 - very hand truck gun, backpack gun.  I have a .32 for pajama carry.
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I want one of their .32s.  I think that’s my mom’s carry gun.

That aside, I love the ingenuity of new designs.  This new 5.7 might not be something I buy, but kudos to Mr. K for trying something out of the box.
1/15/2025 2:18:43 AM EDT
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None of those designers tailored their guns or designs for civilians living under anti-gun laws.
1/15/2025 2:20:51 AM EDT
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GIVE THE ENGINEERS MORE METH
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GIVE THE ENGINEERS MORE METH

ADD SOME OTHER DRUGS AS WELL.
1/15/2025 2:30:21 AM EDT
[#25]
Bullpup brace would be alright
1/15/2025 2:39:25 AM EDT
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I’ve wanted a Steyr Hahn 1912 for a while….if this thing is cheap enough, it might scratch that itch

https://images.guns.com/wordpress/2013/05/styer1912_loading_with_stripper_clip.jpg
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I’ve wanted a Steyr Hahn 1912 for a while….if this thing is cheap enough, it might scratch that itch

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The Steyr, the Mauser, the Grendel, & this new Kel-Tec are legal for Open Carry by unlicensed Americans in Portland Oregon.  We should have an ARFCOM meetup and troll the Portland Lefties - legally open carrying w/ Trump shirts.
1/15/2025 3:11:23 AM EDT
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As a sort of survival/last-ditch backup gun it has an appeal.  No detachable magazine that could be lost in an accident or under stress.  Not having a fresh source of the strippers would be a problem but I assume it single loads like an SKS or Garand fine, just slow.

I don’t think it’s going to be useful getting most state bans though.  Either the fixed internal mag with a “large” capacity is already banned (which accounts for the big markets already) or they have state legislatures that will codify a fix super fast.
1/15/2025 3:13:54 AM EDT
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I don’t think it’s going to be useful getting most state bans though.  Either the fixed internal mag with a “large” capacity is already banned (which accounts for the big markets already) or they have state legislatures that will codify a fix super fast.
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There will be a 10 round plug for the gay states.
1/15/2025 4:35:53 AM EDT
[#29]
Hope this price is a place holder.

$399
1/15/2025 5:27:23 AM EDT
[#30]
I kinda want one.
1/15/2025 5:36:24 AM EDT
[#31]
Well at least they didn't make another Glock clone.
1/15/2025 5:41:07 AM EDT
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If they were gonna go with a stripper clip based pistol, they missed their chance to make it cool...



1/15/2025 5:55:15 AM EDT
[#33]
Cool idea for those states that have restrictions.
1/15/2025 6:09:34 AM EDT
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I have one

Pure shit
1/15/2025 6:28:13 AM EDT
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Though I have some concerns about how some malfunctions could be safely handled with that type of gun, I would get one if they made a version of it that was compliant in my state of residence. Unfortunately, I don't believe that the fixed (high capacity) box mag would be compliant with our current laws.
1/15/2025 8:45:20 AM EDT
[#36]
I'm struggling to understand the front locking lugs. Is this a recoil action with a rotary barrel?
1/15/2025 8:52:31 AM EDT
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I had really hoped it would be a modernized broom handle in 5.7. That would have been sick.
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If only they had cloned the broomhandle.

I had really hoped it would be a modernized broom handle in 5.7. That would have been sick.

Agreed ...brace and all...
1/15/2025 8:53:04 AM EDT
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Same designer.
1/15/2025 8:54:10 AM EDT
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If kel tec ever decides to actually just increase quality of materials by about 40% they would be in a completely different tier. Their r&d and designs are some of the most unique and interesting in the market. If only there quality matches they would be amazing.
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Pretty defines the whole problem right there...
A lot of their stuff are like neat working prototypes waiting for someone to set up production, quality control and dominate the market...
1/15/2025 8:55:57 AM EDT
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Or should they????

"..not the hero we want, but the hero we need..."
1/15/2025 8:57:12 AM EDT
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Wished I could shoot CHL qualification with this, lol.
1/15/2025 9:00:54 AM EDT
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I've always like Kel-Tec, always something different kinda out of the box.
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They are an interesting company! I think I have every gun I rationally need. I should just start shopping their catalog!
1/15/2025 9:03:13 AM EDT
[#43]
I never thought I'd be considering buying a 5.7, but here we are.
1/15/2025 9:12:19 AM EDT
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I know right...
1/15/2025 9:14:38 AM EDT
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Sure, but then they would have to increase prices and not sell as many guns.  The R&D budget would get axed and development would stagnate.  Pretty soon they would be Glock, just keep selling the same thing in different calibers.

Who needs stagnation?
1/15/2025 9:17:57 AM EDT
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You gotta wait for the 'ping'
1/15/2025 9:18:08 AM EDT
[#47]
zero interest from the standpoint of a practical firearm. But i do collect odd and interesting mechanically unique guns so I would most likely grab one for the novelty.
1/15/2025 9:26:14 AM EDT
[#48]
I generally steer clear of Keltec.  Innovative yet cheaply made and generally ugly AF designs.  Still if cheap enough I might pick one of these up.

Still the fixed mag though...
1/15/2025 9:29:01 AM EDT
[#49]
I love weird shit like this, So fucking in!
1/15/2025 9:33:31 AM EDT
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I suppress mine all the time.  It will even run 30 grain suppressed.
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I want something like the CMR in 5.7 as a pistol w/ a folding brace.  I'd settle for one in 22 Mag.   I wanted a PMR but they say not to suppress it so that's a no go.


I suppress mine all the time.  It will even run 30 grain suppressed.


Can confirm that these run suppressed just fine.  Glad I didn’t read the manual about not running a suppressor.

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