[ARCHIVED THREAD] - I interview people who claim to be possessed and had my “Oh Demi” moment. (Page 3 of 8)
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Quoted: If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I’m not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I’m not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. That’s a grey area. Do you need the possessed’s consent to release video, or the possessors, or both? |
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Quoted: If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I’m not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I’m not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. Attached File |
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Quoted: If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I'm not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I'm not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. He could blur out the patient, mute their voice, and show just him in the chair doing the things he said. |
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Quoted: I was on the way back home one day in Houston, champions forest area. I had a good friend named Gerard riding with me, we had taken a ride up to a local supermarket to get some stuff to cook for lunch. There is a north/south highway that has an overpass at the exit to the road where my apartment was. We got down off the exit, traffic was fairly heavy, and it's a 4 lane intersection at the overpass. We pull up to the stoplight, about the 10th car back in the 2nd lane from the left. There's always a handful of bums hanging out under the overpass, and asking for handouts at the red lights. On the far side of the divider, I notice this one slender white male bum, probably about 150' away at this point. Something felt very off as soon as I saw him, can't really describe it. His eyes are locked on my car, looking directly at me with wide open, sunken in crystal blue eyes. My car at the time had limo tint, and it was very hard to see people inside even on a bright day. Granted he was looking through the front, but he still had singled us out. His stare had a completely obvious evil feeling to it, one that I hadn't felt before with anyone or since then. And I've came across some downright nasty people growing up in New Orleans, so that's saying something. The light turns green, and as we drive past to turn under the overpass, he turns slowly and smoothly in this creepy as fuck motion, not blinking, no jerky movements, like his upper body was joined in sync with our car. Keep in mind that me or my buddy hadn't said a word to each other since we got off the exit, as I had my radio on. We got about a quarter mile past that intersection and Gerard looking straight out the windshield said "Smokie, that guy back there just looked through my soul" right then and there felt my gut drop, knowing it wasn't just me. This is exactly what I mean. You get it. |
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Quoted: The guy was drunk, high on weed and magic mushrooms. How does that make him a demon? He also bought sex toys in advance of the killing. A demon that plans ahead? While I'm not sure of what your rules are for demons, generally speaking, lying is the single most common characteristic associated with demons in pretty much every single culture. His actions speak for themselves. Also, what the hell would advance planning (or lack thereof) have to do with it? Like I said, call it whatever you want. |
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Demons are not omnipresent nor omnipotent. Apparently this one knew some stuff about you OP if I’m reading the story correctly. For a Psychiatrist there were a couple of sketchy grammatical errors in your story so I’m going to say you’re not ready to publish yet. Nice try. |
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Quoted: That’s a grey area. Do you need the possessed’s consent to release video, or the possessors, or both? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I’m not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. That’s a grey area. Do you need the possessed’s consent to release video, or the possessors, or both? It’s the .gov so even the “overview” of the rule is thousands & thousands of words. If you want to attempt to make sense of it I wish you good luck. I know where I work the blanket rule is absolutely zero release of anything to anyone who is not the primary contact or POA. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I'm not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. He could blur out the patient, mute their voice, and show just him in the chair doing the things he said. Would that really be better than none? With that level of scrubbing anything could be faked & there would be no way to know. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I’m not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/raw-355.gif I’ve always found that gif humorous, but not the way it’s intended. I picture the sender making those same faces attempting to understand the most basic of concepts. Like you & HIPAA. It’s ok if you don’t understand, maybe ask next time, you might learn something & then won’t be forced to post that stupid gif in the future. |
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Lol. I can't tell if OP is actually trying to pass this off as real, or just having fun with a late night Goosebumps type story. Regardless, total BS (and not because I don't believe demonic possessions can't happen). And the fact his username is "Pantydropper" isn't even one of the reasons this is obviously fake. |
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Quoted: Pics of girl tied to bed? ![]() CONSTANTINE (2005) Scene: ''Soldier Demon'' Exorcism. |
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Quoted: Never seen anything like that personally, but I do know someone that I know isn't crazy tell me of witnessing a demon. He would give released prisoners rides home. One particular time as he was driving he smelled sulfur. When he looked over he saw a demon sitting in the passenger seat. When he looked away back to the road for a second it was back to being the released guy. |
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Quoted: Would that really be better than none? With that level of scrubbing anything could be faked & there would be no way to know. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I'm not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. He could blur out the patient, mute their voice, and show just him in the chair doing the things he said. Would that really be better than none? With that level of scrubbing anything could be faked & there would be no way to know. It would require a lot more effort than just telling a story. Most people are lazy, so it would rule that out. |
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Quoted: A priest tied a girl to the bed and warned you 50x not to believe a word she says before allowing you in the room. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I believe you are confused. It was a little girl, not a boy. I don't know why these costume clowns mess around with these devils. Why don't they stick to the book. |
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Quoted: About 10 years ago I left my private medical practice as a psychiatrist and went into IT. At the time, I was about 2-3 years into the resurgence of my faith. I'd spent the majority of my childhood as an agnostic, and my early formative years as as an athiest. The diocesan priest of my parish who I had gotten to know well in that time approached me one day and asked if I'd be willing to meet with an individual claiming to be possessed. I chuckled, much to the chagrin of the priest, but ultimately accepted the offer. I half expected I'd be ask to pull up to an old creepy home, where the person would be tied to a bed, speaking Latin in a deep voice, but reality was much more boring than that. I'd been setup in an office at the church, with a camera rolling to collect evidence. The interview lasted about an hour. It was an older women, in her 50s, who would go in and out of "possession." Shortly after concluding the interview, I met with the priest and informed him that this was no a case of demonic possession, but a women suffering from split personalities or schizophrenia. Just like that, my first case was in the books. Over the years, I've met with 74 individuals, at church or their homes, across state lines, all claiming to be demonically possessed. All with a mental explanation. Until a few weeks ago. To say I'm a skeptic, would be putting it lightly. While I maintain my faith to this day, I do not believe that people are actively being possessed. Well, I did The call came in while I was helping an old friend swap out a firewall for his father in law who owns a construction company. I asked my friend to give me a moment and I left the room to answer the call. I was given the details of the case, a young woman, claiming to be demonically possessed, ability to move objects, know things she could possibly not know, and speak Latin. Basically your common everyday case of possession for anyone who has seen the exorcist. I asked for the address and was taken aback when the priest said I'd be taking a flight to a small town in Iowa. I'd been out of state before, but not cross country. I paused for a moment, not wanting to take multiple days off work, but ultimately relented. A few days later, I was picked up in Iowa by another priest and we chatted about the case on the drive down. I had let him know about my record, 74 cases, 74 explanations. He looked over at me and casually quipped "not this time." By the time we arrived at the home the sun was beginning to set and I helped the priest carry in some equipment. Microphone, multiple go pro cameras, tape recorder, the works. I figured this priest took his interviews seriously. Upon entering, I met with the mother, who was an overweight women, completely unappealing, smoking a cigarette. Her foot bouncing up and down as we talked. A younger boy at a table playing video games on an iPad. I then heard banging from upstairs. The women's eyes looked up, then back down at me, "she's ready for you" she said with a crooked smile. The priest and I made our way upstairs, I was a bit nervous at this point. Were we dealing with a violent mental patient? Had she snuck a knife into her room? I didn't feel like getting stabbed tonight. The Priest placed his hand on my shoulder, "focus" he said. "You can talk to it, but don't believe anything it says." "Talk to it?" "The girl you mean?" The priest shook his head and asked I wait outside while he setup the equipment. I glanced inside and could make out a persons foot on the bed just before the door closed. Then the yelling started. Deep guttural insults that didn't seem to end. Finally, the Priest emerged and closed the door. He placed the microphone on me and again said "don't listen to it, it lies." "Let's get this over with" I said with a sigh. The door opened, and there tied to the damn bed was the girl. I immediately looked at the priest and told him we needed to remove the bindings. "The bindings stay" he said sharply and loudly Uneasy, I made my way to a chair and sat down. I spoke the date, time, location, my name, and the name of the girl. She had remained quiet. I began with my usual opening line. "So, I understand you are possessed" The girl looked up, eyes wide, "no, no, please help me, they have me locked up here!" My face was uneasy and her panic suddenly turned into a deep guttural laugh. I composed myself and continued. "If you are a demon, prove it" Suddenly, a shelf on her dresser shook. "A real demon would open it" The girl simply looked at me. I began to jot down on my notepad when she spoke again. "You don't believe" she said. Her voice sounding more like a girls voice. "Correct, I do not believe you are demonically possessed" I responded. Her eyes scrunched up and her lips became pursed. I was about to have my "Demi why you do this to me" moment. She began to speak to me in French. I will provide a rough English translation. "Do you remember when you bought me that glass slipper in 4th grade?" I jumped back out of my chair. The priest began to shout at me "remember, it lies!" "I'm here in the dark, help me, why won't you help your mamma who sat next to you in the hospital when you fell and hit your head falling off that ladder?" At this point, I began to cry. "Mamma, I'm so sorry mama" The girl began to laugh. It was a deep laugh I can hardly explain. The priest grabbed me and pulled me out of the room. I tried to compose myself outside the bedroom. I felt out of breath. My heart was pounding. This is it, I'm going to die. The priest grabbed my arm and ushered me outside. "Breathe" "Breathe" And that folks, is the story of my first real encounter with Demonic possession and my first panic attack. In the days that passed, I have felt a great sense of sadness, but also a great sense of awe. I know now I wasn't speaking to my mom, but the truth behind the words has left me shook. I cannot explain it. Every word of it true and unknown to anyone me and my family. I asked the priest if my name was given to the family before I arrived. Only my first name. Being paranoid, I asked all my family members if they had received a call, asking about me. Which of course, they did not. I hope I see 200 or even 300 patients who "believe" they are demonically possessed before I ever experience that again. Is this a legit story from you OP or a copy an paste? Interesting and Creepy and really reminds me of an early episode of the Series EVIL . If this was your experience, what happened with the girl after this? |
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Quoted: It’s the .gov so even the “overview” of the rule is thousands & thousands of words. If you want to attempt to make sense of it I wish you good luck. I know where I work the blanket rule is absolutely zero release of anything to anyone who is not the primary contact or POA. Would that really be better than none? With that level of scrubbing anything could be faked & there would be no way to know. I’ve always found that gif humorous, but not the way it’s intended. I picture the sender making those same faces attempting to understand the most basic of concepts. Like you & HIPAA. It’s ok if you don’t understand, maybe ask next time, you might learn something & then won’t be forced to post that stupid gif in the future. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I’m not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. That’s a grey area. Do you need the possessed’s consent to release video, or the possessors, or both? It’s the .gov so even the “overview” of the rule is thousands & thousands of words. If you want to attempt to make sense of it I wish you good luck. I know where I work the blanket rule is absolutely zero release of anything to anyone who is not the primary contact or POA. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I'm not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. He could blur out the patient, mute their voice, and show just him in the chair doing the things he said. Would that really be better than none? With that level of scrubbing anything could be faked & there would be no way to know. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I’m not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/raw-355.gif I’ve always found that gif humorous, but not the way it’s intended. I picture the sender making those same faces attempting to understand the most basic of concepts. Like you & HIPAA. It’s ok if you don’t understand, maybe ask next time, you might learn something & then won’t be forced to post that stupid gif in the future. Clearly you don’t understand how HIPAA works. Here is a better picture for you. Attached File |
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Quoted: While I'm not sure of what your rules are for demons, generally speaking, lying is the single most common characteristic associated with demons in pretty much every single culture. His actions speak for themselves. Also, what the hell would advance planning (or lack thereof) have to do with it? Like I said, call it whatever you want. A demon wouldn't need to get high and drunk to do harm. I would think once possessed you would start killing then, not order some sex toys and plan out your murder. But I have no idea, these are just my thoughts. Edit: When I say demon, I'm talking about being possessed... He was definitely an evil person. |
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Quoted: Clearly you don’t understand how HIPAA works. Here is a better picture for you. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1874/FDD47835-46A4-4F67-9E9B-E3A5A5D77A27_jpe-2713076.JPG Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I’m not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. That’s a grey area. Do you need the possessed’s consent to release video, or the possessors, or both? It’s the .gov so even the “overview” of the rule is thousands & thousands of words. If you want to attempt to make sense of it I wish you good luck. I know where I work the blanket rule is absolutely zero release of anything to anyone who is not the primary contact or POA. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I'm not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. He could blur out the patient, mute their voice, and show just him in the chair doing the things he said. Would that really be better than none? With that level of scrubbing anything could be faked & there would be no way to know. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op If OP is a licensed psychiatrist & was acting in that capacity he would be required to follow HIPAA & could not release the video or audio recordings without the permission of his patient. I’m not saying his story is true. It may be, but he has a very plausible explanation for not releasing video evidence. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/raw-355.gif I’ve always found that gif humorous, but not the way it’s intended. I picture the sender making those same faces attempting to understand the most basic of concepts. Like you & HIPAA. It’s ok if you don’t understand, maybe ask next time, you might learn something & then won’t be forced to post that stupid gif in the future. Clearly you don’t understand how HIPAA works. Here is a better picture for you. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1874/FDD47835-46A4-4F67-9E9B-E3A5A5D77A27_jpe-2713076.JPG By all means, inform me. I guess we could distill this down to a pretty simple question; If you went to a psychiatrist for a session & it was video/audio recorded, would you consider it a violation if your psychiatrist posted that video on ARFcom without your permission? Would HIPAA? Would a court? Would an ethics review board? We all know the answer of course, but feel free to keep shoveling. |
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As a psychiatrist, I diagnose mental illness. And, sometimes, demonic possession. When exorcists need help, they call him Relevant to the topic. Guy in the stories is a verified psychiatrist who works with exorcists. |
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Quoted: A demon wouldn't need to get high and drunk to do harm. I would think once possessed you would start killing then, not order some sex toys and plan out your murder. But I have no idea, these are just my thoughts. Edit: When I say demon, I'm talking about being possessed... He was definitely an evil person. I've met people who've killed before, both in anger and in self-defense. They seemed like people. This guy was not. To my knowledge there was never any indication until trial of any claim of being under the influence of anything, hence my mention of demons being associated with lying. But to be honest I believe a possessed individual would have no rules, especially whether or not they were under the effects of mind-altering substances when they kill and rape somebody (in that order) and film it. |
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Quoted: I've met people who've killed before, both in anger and in self-defense. They seemed like people. This guy was not. To my knowledge there was never any indication until trial of any claim of being under the influence of anything, hence my mention of demons being associated with lying. But to be honest I believe a possessed individual would have no rules, especially whether or not they were under the effects of mind-altering substances when they kill and rape somebody (in that order) and film it. Quoted: Quoted: A demon wouldn't need to get high and drunk to do harm. I would think once possessed you would start killing then, not order some sex toys and plan out your murder. But I have no idea, these are just my thoughts. Edit: When I say demon, I'm talking about being possessed... He was definitely an evil person. I've met people who've killed before, both in anger and in self-defense. They seemed like people. This guy was not. To my knowledge there was never any indication until trial of any claim of being under the influence of anything, hence my mention of demons being associated with lying. But to be honest I believe a possessed individual would have no rules, especially whether or not they were under the effects of mind-altering substances when they kill and rape somebody (in that order) and film it. He also tried to erase the video, according to the article. Why would a possessed person worry about self preservation? The demon could go and posses some one else. I only read the article you posted. You know more about the case than, I. Edit: I need to proof read better. |
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Quoted: As a career cop, I, along with other LEO's, have had encounters with that very small group of people out of tens of thousands who instantly make the hair on the back of your neck stand up and give you the overwhelming feeling that who you're speaking to is not the person you see in front of you. It feels like there's something darker and more twisted there than the run of the mill rapist or murderer, and that person may not have even committed a crime. If you've ever had the misfortune of interacting with one of those people, it's quite disconcerting. Quoted: Quoted: I've been in interview rooms with people, and I left believing they had a hitchhiker in their heads. They just felt.... wrong. As a career cop, I, along with other LEO's, have had encounters with that very small group of people out of tens of thousands who instantly make the hair on the back of your neck stand up and give you the overwhelming feeling that who you're speaking to is not the person you see in front of you. It feels like there's something darker and more twisted there than the run of the mill rapist or murderer, and that person may not have even committed a crime. If you've ever had the misfortune of interacting with one of those people, it's quite disconcerting. Disconcerting is an understatement. |
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Quoted: By all means, inform me. I guess we could distill this down to a pretty simple question; If you went to a psychiatrist for a session & it was video/audio recorded, would you consider it a violation if your psychiatrist posted that video on ARFcom without your permission? Would HIPAA? Would a court? Would an ethics review board? We all know the answer of course, but feel free to keep shoveling. But, he's NOT a psychiatrist. He's a former psychiatrist who now does IT work, that for some reason the church ships around the country to view exorcisms. Doesn't that make him just a guy with a camera, not there in any treatment capacity, and not bound by HIPAA? |
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Quoted: He also tried to erase the video, according to the article. Why would a possessed person worry about self preservation? The demon could go and posses some one else. I only read the article you posted. You know more about the case than, I. Edit: I need to proof read better. Why wouldn't they? I don't really know either way. It seems like you're assuming demons have to act a certain way. I don't have the slightest idea why they would or would not act in human self-preservation. It would make sense to me that if they're really agents of Satan, then they would want to remain in their human hosts as long as possible. It wouldn't do them good to be imprisoned or killed. It's not really possible to assign rules to the paranormal and scientifically unfalsifiable, so this is all just conjecture, but it does not seem like accounts of demonic possession throughout history involve easily transferring from host to host. But then again I am in IT, not demonology, so what do I know? |
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Quoted: Claims there were cameras, provides no video or pics. Arfcom fail. Nice try op I would have to assume that something like that couldn't be posted without the other persons permission. Seems like a great way to get yourself in a heap of trouble for just posting a video to skeptics. |
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Quoted: What purpose were you there for, to "exercise" the demonic? Why didn't you cast it out of her? <<< You haven't in reality knowingly experienced devil influenced or oppressed persons or even those likely possessed (extremely rare). Psychiatrist or not, you are clearly ignorant. Your story sounds/ reads like fiction. In fact you are not a true believer, are you? Also, your story is a great example of how the Catholic church is a 'false authority' on these matters of faith. I take it, you like to entertain darkness or just want attention. Jesus is the Light of the world. He has given us authority over all the power of the enemy. You mean like take it for a walk? Maranatha |
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Quoted: Not a cop, but been there too.. Disconcerting is an understatement. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've been in interview rooms with people, and I left believing they had a hitchhiker in their heads. They just felt.... wrong. As a career cop, I, along with other LEO's, have had encounters with that very small group of people out of tens of thousands who instantly make the hair on the back of your neck stand up and give you the overwhelming feeling that who you're speaking to is not the person you see in front of you. It feels like there's something darker and more twisted there than the run of the mill rapist or murderer, and that person may not have even committed a crime. If you've ever had the misfortune of interacting with one of those people, it's quite disconcerting. Disconcerting is an understatement. If you read the bible you will find countless testimonies of Jesus and His disciples casting demons out of people... Also examples of the behaviors of those possessed by demons. Jesus also said that some spirits are more difficult to drive out at least for his followers to drive out. Ephesians 6:12 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Man threw in his lot with Lucifer/Satan at the Fall in the Garden of Eden...and joined Satan's demonic rebellion against our creator God. Things have gone downhill since then.. God has made a way for man to be reconciled to our Creator God through His Son Jesus Christ. Man's evil nature and Satan's evil nature have conspired to take over mankind God sent His Son on a rescue mission...to save man from himself & Satan and the consequences of rebellion... Everyday men demonstrate to themselves and each other whose side they are on...we are all "possessed" of an evil nature and side with the Devil most of our lives... Those who refuse to have their sins forgiven through Jesus Christ will suffer the exact same fate as Lucifer/Satan and all his converts... |
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Quoted: Why wouldn't they? I don't really know either way. It seems like you're assuming demons have to act a certain way. I don't have the slightest idea why they would or would not act in human self-preservation. It would make sense to me that if they're really agents of Satan, then they would want to remain in their human hosts as long as possible. It wouldn't do them good to be imprisoned or killed. It's not really possible to assign rules to the paranormal and scientifically unfalsifiable, so this is all just conjecture, but it does not seem like accounts of demonic possession throughout history involve easily transferring from host to host. But then again I am in IT, not demonology, so what do I know? Quoted: Quoted: He also tried to erase the video, according to the article. Why would a possessed person worry about self preservation? The demon could go and posses some one else. I only read the article you posted. You know more about the case than, I. Edit: I need to proof read better. Why wouldn't they? I don't really know either way. It seems like you're assuming demons have to act a certain way. I don't have the slightest idea why they would or would not act in human self-preservation. It would make sense to me that if they're really agents of Satan, then they would want to remain in their human hosts as long as possible. It wouldn't do them good to be imprisoned or killed. It's not really possible to assign rules to the paranormal and scientifically unfalsifiable, so this is all just conjecture, but it does not seem like accounts of demonic possession throughout history involve easily transferring from host to host. But then again I am in IT, not demonology, so what do I know? My experience is "Hollywood" type stuff, Exorcist and things like it, plus a couple fiction books. But, I do see your point, there is no reason a demon would be rational or what I would consider rational. And I have felt the presence of evil before. Real or imagined, I don't know. But I listen to my gut in those type of situations. |
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Quoted: You may want to reevaluate this My wife used to be a hospice nurse. She’s been around a LOT of people right as they croak. No shit, some people smile and raise their arms towards the sky. People who have barely moved in days. People who need help moving even a little to help prevent bad sores. And once in a while, not very often, the room gets cold. As in room temp to you get a quick body shiver cold. Then the person does some shit straight out of a Hollywood horror movie. Multiple of my wife’s coworkers have said they’ve seen this. Not many times, but definitely more than enough to make every single one who didnt believe, now believe. |



