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Quoted: some will argue that Luke was using the force to read what R2D2 was saying. Others may dismiss it altogether with some lame ass explanation like "it's a movie. The truth is way deeper than that and once revealed it explains so many other things in the story. Let me begin to open your eyes. luke was a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur. The truth is that he was a meth head living in his uncles basement and drove around in a 15 year old beater that he chopped the roof off of so it would "look cool". He even convinced himself that he could shoot bombats at 15 parcepts with a plasma rifle while everyone who's ever fired a plasma rifle knows this is impossible. You can't even see a bombat at anything greater than 5 parcepts! The entire story was a delusional episode brought on by dropping a month old tab of tainted Banta meat. R2D2 was not a robot , it was a vacuum cleaner. c3P0 was his watch. old ben was a homeless wanderer who fell in a sewer grate while tripping. His balls off The deathstar was a huge discotheque. chewie was a duster made from banta hair. Basically everything else was a delusion. Except the ewoks, they were lasso apsos that the uncle raised in his puppy mill out back. Watch it again with that knowledge and you will see that everything suddenly makes sense.  |
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Re-watch the movies. The only time he has a real conversation with him is when R2 is flying in the backseat of his X-wing. There's a small monitor in Luke's cockpit that translates what R2 is beeping. The rest of the time, he has to check with C3P0, or when he's on Dagobah, he just sort of deduces what R2 is saying by the tone of his beeps. (Kind of like conversing with a dog.) Doesn't Han have a pretty complex discussion with a droid at one point? Yeah, but droids don't rip people's arms off when they're misunderstood. Battle droids do. |
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I know it was just for him to be a cute sidekick, most Hollywood sidekicks have some sort of comic quirk.
R2 is no different, but with all the other gadgets hidden about his *ahem* person, you would think they could at least give him an easily understood language. |
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Droidspeak is an information-dense language invented by the Baobab Merchant Fleet. It was designed so that most people could understand the jist of what was being said by the tone and mannerisms of the droid in question. So Luke could only understand R2 completely in a fighter (using the scomp-link readout) or when 3PO was playing interpreter. The rest of the time he just used his extensive experience with droids (the ones on his farm used the same language) to get the jist of R2's side of the conversation. In the books Luke is actually eventually able to understand R2 almost completely due to extensive familiarity with the droid language. I knew that from memory.  I'd only disagree with one thing: At least up until the time of the Thrawn Trilogy, Luke could only understand if the answer was yes, no, or unsure. Luke could also discern nervous, scared, excited, or happy – never could catch details away from the X-Wing or Threepio for translation. Granted, that's only 9 years after the angle of Yavin, but Luke could pick up on that stuff from the beginning. |
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Quoted: I'd only disagree with one thing: At least up until the time of the Thrawn Trilogy, Luke could only understand if the answer was yes, no, or unsure. Luke could also discern nervous, scared, excited, or happy – never could catch details away from the X-Wing or Threepio for translation. Granted, that's only 9 years after the angle of Yavin, but Luke could pick up on that stuff from the beginning. Quoted: Quoted: Droidspeak is an information-dense language invented by the Baobab Merchant Fleet. It was designed so that most people could understand the jist of what was being said by the tone and mannerisms of the droid in question. So Luke could only understand R2 completely in a fighter (using the scomp-link readout) or when 3PO was playing interpreter. The rest of the time he just used his extensive experience with droids (the ones on his farm used the same language) to get the jist of R2's side of the conversation. In the books Luke is actually eventually able to understand R2 almost completely due to extensive familiarity with the droid language. I knew that from memory. I'd only disagree with one thing: At least up until the time of the Thrawn Trilogy, Luke could only understand if the answer was yes, no, or unsure. Luke could also discern nervous, scared, excited, or happy – never could catch details away from the X-Wing or Threepio for translation. Granted, that's only 9 years after the angle of Yavin, but Luke could pick up on that stuff from the beginning. |
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"What's that, Lassie? Timmy's stuck in a well? And we need high angle rescue experience to get him out? Ok, let me write down the coordinates. Ok, grid squares. Have it your way. Yeah, yeah, I know. The ground's unstable and we might fall into a sinkhole." |
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Quoted: Hmmm...nothing comes to mind. Han does talk to a lot of aliens though: Chewie, Greedo, Jabba, etc. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Re-watch the movies. The only time he has a real conversation with him is when R2 is flying in the backseat of his X-wing. There's a small monitor in Luke's cockpit that translates what R2 is beeping. The rest of the time, he has to check with C3P0, or when he's on Dagobah, he just sort of deduces what R2 is saying by the tone of his beeps. (Kind of like conversing with a dog.) Doesn't Han have a pretty complex discussion with a droid at one point? Hmmm...nothing comes to mind. Han does talk to a lot of aliens though: Chewie, Greedo, Jabba, etc. ... |
Actually, you are right: Han does converse with a droid who is helping him fix the Falcon, before the Battle of Hoth in "The Empire Strikes Back." The droid isn't speaking English, just a series of beeps that Han seems to understand. I guess Han was the most multi-lingual character in the Trilogy, after C3PO. 
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Explain to me how Luke was able to have these in depth conversations with R2 with his very small vocabulary of Beeps and Boops. I can understand how he was able to discern R2’s general mood by interpreting his sounds. For example: “Hey, R2, I wanna fuck the shit out of that Leia chic. What do you think?” R2 says, “Bwooboop” I can see how he would be able to interpret that as, “You may want to rethink that, broheim.” But what about, “Hey, R2, do you have good recipes for Tatooine chicken?” And R2 says, “Beepbeep boo woooo wrrbeeboop wootwrr beepdoo wrrrr.” And Luke is able to translate to, “Ok, I marinate the chicken in olive oil and Italian seasoning for 3 hours and then put it in the oven @ 400 for an hour or until the juices run blue.” That’s ridiculous. I read this. You're drunk. |
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Droidspeak is an information-dense language invented by the Baobab Merchant Fleet. It was designed so that most people could understand the jist of what was being said by the tone and mannerisms of the droid in question. So Luke could only understand R2 completely in a fighter (using the scomp-link readout) or when 3PO was playing interpreter. The rest of the time he just used his extensive experience with droids (the ones on his farm used the same language) to get the jist of R2's side of the conversation. In the books Luke is actually eventually able to understand R2 almost completely due to extensive familiarity with the droid language. I knew that from memory. 
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Re-watch the movies. The only time he has a real conversation with him is when R2 is flying in the backseat of his X-wing. There's a small monitor in Luke's cockpit that translates what R2 is beeping. The rest of the time, he has to check with C3P0, or when he's on Dagobah, he just sort of deduces what R2 is saying by the tone of his beeps. (Kind of like conversing with a dog.) Yep. |
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Re-watch the movies. The only time he has a real conversation with him is when R2 is flying in the backseat of his X-wing. There's a small monitor in Luke's cockpit that translates what R2 is beeping. The rest of the time, he has to check with C3P0, or when he's on Dagobah, he just sort of deduces what R2 is saying by the tone of his beeps. (Kind of like conversing with a dog.) All of this^^^ |
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For the love of God! That's the wrong question, man. Why couldn't it speak English? That's the question. It's huge. If it can speak in beeps and whistles, it could speak in a human language. The answer is that R2 D2 is actually Lassie without the fur. People like to pay money to watch movies where machines make cute noises. |
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Quoted: Explain to me how Luke was able to have these in depth conversations with R2 with his very small vocabulary of Beeps and Boops. I can understand how he was able to discern R2’s general mood by interpreting his sounds. For example: "Hey, R2, I wanna fuck the shit out of that Leia chic. What do you think?” R2 says, "Bwooboop” I can see how he would be able to interpret that as, "You may want to rethink that, broheim.” But what about, "Hey, R2, do you have good recipes for Tatooine chicken?” And R2 says, "Beepbeep boo woooo wrrbeeboop wootwrr beepdoo wrrrr.” And Luke is able to translate to, "Ok, I marinate the chicken in olive oil and Italian seasoning for 3 hours and then put it in the oven @ 400 for an hour or until the juices run blue.” That’s ridiculous. |
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Luke couldn't totally understand R2.
From Empire after they crash land on Dagobah: R2: "beep beep bloop woooooo Luke: "If you're saying that coming here was a bad idea, I'm beginning to agree with you." Like others have mentioned already, in his ship he could read translations on the MFD. Without the aid of a ship or C3P0, Luke just paid attention to inflection and tone to get an idea of what R2 was saying. |
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You can translate your words into R2-speak, if you like:
http://www.r2d2translator.com/ |
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I am more impressed with Han. He is at least quadlingual. Wookie, Hutt, English, and whatever the fuck Greedo was speaking Y'know, that brings up an interesting point. I wonder if any real effort was made to make at least what Jabba spoke and what Greedo spoke actual languages, akin to what Star Trek did with Klingon, or if it was just nonsense gibberish prepared for those scenes? Can we rule out that Greedo and Jabba spoke different languages? I haven't seen those movies in years. |
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Quoted: Y'know, that brings up an interesting point. I wonder if any real effort was made to make at least what Jabba spoke and what Greedo spoke actual languages, akin to what Star Trek did with Klingon, or if it was just nonsense gibberish prepared for those scenes? Can we rule out that Greedo and Jabba spoke different languages? I haven't seen those movies in years. Quoted: Quoted: I am more impressed with Han. He is at least quadlingual. Wookie, Hutt, English, and whatever the fuck Greedo was speaking Y'know, that brings up an interesting point. I wonder if any real effort was made to make at least what Jabba spoke and what Greedo spoke actual languages, akin to what Star Trek did with Klingon, or if it was just nonsense gibberish prepared for those scenes? Can we rule out that Greedo and Jabba spoke different languages? I haven't seen those movies in years. |
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I am more impressed with Han. He is at least quadlingual. Wookie, Hutt, English, and whatever the fuck Greedo was speaking Y'know, that brings up an interesting point. I wonder if any real effort was made to make at least what Jabba spoke and what Greedo spoke actual languages, akin to what Star Trek did with Klingon, or if it was just nonsense gibberish prepared for those scenes? Can we rule out that Greedo and Jabba spoke different languages? I haven't seen those movies in years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greedo The language that Greedo speaks is actually Southern Quechua. Some other aliens speak other real languages, even if they're regional or not well known. |
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I am more impressed with Han. He is at least quadlingual. Wookie, Hutt, English, and whatever the fuck Greedo was speaking Y'know, that brings up an interesting point. I wonder if any real effort was made to make at least what Jabba spoke and what Greedo spoke actual languages, akin to what Star Trek did with Klingon, or if it was just nonsense gibberish prepared for those scenes? Can we rule out that Greedo and Jabba spoke different languages? I haven't seen those movies in years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greedo The language that Greedo speaks is actually Southern Quechua. Some other aliens speak other real languages, even if they're regional or not well known. From the sounds of it, though, Greedo was supposed to have been speaking Huttese, and the use of this Southern Quechua was possibly not maintained as other authors took off with the language concept in the expanded universe. Does anyone know if when Jabba and others in the movies spoke, the use of this Quechua base was maintained (I'm talkign movies here, as the whole "expanded universe" thing does nothing for me)? |