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8/12/2024 5:28:18 PM EDT
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I was a diehard G fan boy before they told us all to go fuck ourselves after BF 2019, however, all the videos related to this are really impressive.  Has me considering crawling back.

Bill, I'm gonna need a mk1, 2, or 3 again.

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8/12/2024 5:54:15 PM EDT
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I love all my g stuff and shooting at his range is amazing
8/12/2024 6:24:33 PM EDT
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Groups from that Super Machine Gun barrel before we sent it out.   These are all 10 round groups.

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@sagmill

Holy Crap man. At what distance?
8/12/2024 6:38:46 PM EDT
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GD fancies themselves operators that need something that'll handle their next Battle of Wanat. GD is, by and large, a population of diabetic Walter Mittys.

Shit like this will sell rifles like hotcakes.
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Videos like this are pointless amd tarded. They show absolutely nothing. They are all for attention and have no practical purpose..

GD fancies themselves operators that need something that'll handle their next Battle of Wanat. GD is, by and large, a population of diabetic Walter Mittys.

Shit like this will sell rifles like hotcakes.
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8/12/2024 6:54:14 PM EDT
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I was debating hard between BCM and G for my 11.5. Think I’m going to go G
8/12/2024 7:18:08 PM EDT
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I was a diehard G fan boy before they told us all to go fuck ourselves after BF 2019, however, all the videos related to this are really impressive.  Has me considering crawling back.

Bill, I'm gonna need a mk1, 2, or 3 again.

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What rail is on the far left?

I've been waiting forever to get a DD M4A1 RIS rail setup and not break out my front sight on the M4 I have.

8/12/2024 7:28:35 PM EDT
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8/12/2024 7:30:59 PM EDT
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Let me guess it was the gas tube that failed? like every single one of these tests ever
8/12/2024 7:33:02 PM EDT
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Is this a commercially available upper or just made for this video?
8/12/2024 7:54:22 PM EDT
[#10]
Amazing!


8/12/2024 7:59:45 PM EDT
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Let me guess it was the gas tube that failed? like every single one of these tests ever
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KAC and DD both suffered barrel ruptures around 500-600 rounds.
8/12/2024 8:03:59 PM EDT
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In the other video they did (on a different Geissele upper), didn't the gas tube literally melt?
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Most of them do.  The gas tube is supposed to fail before the rest of the gun
8/12/2024 8:33:46 PM EDT
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Groups from that Super Machine Gun barrel before we sent it out.   These are all 10 round groups.

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Is this a result of a RFI for an IAR concept weapon?
8/12/2024 8:34:45 PM EDT
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@BLITZ999

This was built in response to the first meltdown video. I have a feeling they will be making this upper soon. It may already be on their site. Don't know.
8/12/2024 8:52:20 PM EDT
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Holy Crap man. At what distance?
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100yds

We are going to get that Machine Gun upper back and forensically check it out. I wonder how good it will shoot. Any bets?
8/12/2024 8:53:12 PM EDT
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We have barrels on hand. Just have to spin up the gas blocks on one of the TMAs
8/12/2024 8:58:08 PM EDT
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What rail is on the far left?

I've been waiting forever to get a DD M4A1 RIS rail setup and not break out my front sight on the M4 I have.

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I was a diehard G fan boy before they told us all to go fuck ourselves after BF 2019, however, all the videos related to this are really impressive.  Has me considering crawling back.

Bill, I'm gonna need a mk1, 2, or 3 again.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20200112_085055_jpg-3292918.JPG



What rail is on the far left?

I've been waiting forever to get a DD M4A1 RIS rail setup and not break out my front sight on the M4 I have.



It's one I milled
8/12/2024 9:41:56 PM EDT
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100yds

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.875 at 100yds is going to be my guess. I'm not sure if it sagged. If it sagged all bets off.
8/12/2024 9:47:47 PM EDT
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.875 at 100yds is going to be my guess. I'm not sure if it sagged. If it sagged all bets off.
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100yds

We are going to get that Machine Gun upper back and forensically check it out. I wonder how good it will shoot. Any bets?


.875 at 100yds is going to be my guess. I'm not sure if it sagged. If it sagged all bets off.


I am going to venture 1.5”.

Anyone want to do a friendly wager?
8/12/2024 9:55:19 PM EDT
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I am going to venture 1.5".

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1.69
8/12/2024 10:00:24 PM EDT
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3.0"
8/12/2024 10:04:17 PM EDT
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8/12/2024 10:04:34 PM EDT
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8/12/2024 10:08:59 PM EDT
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I need one just for lulz. That’s bad ass.
8/12/2024 10:10:57 PM EDT
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I’ll grab 2.25”
8/12/2024 10:11:38 PM EDT
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I am curious how a Colt lmg upper would do. Just like that the heavy barrel is becoming fashionable again. I like my Geissele rifle.
8/12/2024 10:11:38 PM EDT
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1.87
8/12/2024 10:11:55 PM EDT
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@sagmill

What is the weight of this chonky 16” HBAR?

Would you guys ever consider doing a 14.5” SOCOM profile (p/w) barrel? This barrle profile handles well and can stand up to more abuse than the gove profile barrel without being excessively heavy. Or maybe some type of improved profile barrel that has more mass toward the receiver with a taper out to the muzzle that is around the same weight as the SOCOM?

Just a thought.

8/12/2024 10:12:44 PM EDT
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I'm guessing 3+ MOA.
8/12/2024 10:13:00 PM EDT
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yup.


8/12/2024 10:25:06 PM EDT
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1.25” with 1-2 flyers opening up to 1.75”
8/12/2024 10:25:43 PM EDT
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100yds

We are going to get that Machine Gun upper back and forensically check it out. I wonder how good it will shoot. Any bets?


.875 at 100yds is going to be my guess. I'm not sure if it sagged. If it sagged all bets off.


I am going to venture 1.5”.

Anyone want to do a friendly wager?


2.87"
8/12/2024 10:43:32 PM EDT
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How do we get a hold of one of these HBAR Geissele uppers?

I have a lower that could take advantage of it (already has a Geissele SSF trigger and buffer tube/spring)...



Also - how hot is that lower getting on these?  Mine gets pretty hot with repeated 10 round bursts (not sustained full auto).
8/12/2024 11:27:47 PM EDT
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Also - how hot is that lower getting on these?  Mine gets pretty hot with repeated 10 round bursts (not sustained full auto).
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Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video.

8/12/2024 11:34:20 PM EDT
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Ok, that is impressive.
8/12/2024 11:35:21 PM EDT
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Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video.

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Also - how hot is that lower getting on these?  Mine gets pretty hot with repeated 10 round bursts (not sustained full auto).

Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video.



You're not wrong but you also didn't answer my question.
8/12/2024 11:37:47 PM EDT
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Well, your exact question is exactly addressed in the video.
8/13/2024 7:08:33 AM EDT
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You need to make 13.9 uppers with those barrels and gas blocks, I'll take 2
8/13/2024 8:07:19 AM EDT
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An entertaining test of the gas tube and maybe the gas rings. I guess we can count on 1600 rounds before some breaks.

A useful test would be to test accuracy before and after...or maybe every 500 rounds.

edit:beat hard. I'd guess it will print 3+ MOA now...
8/13/2024 8:09:09 AM EDT
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100yds

We are going to get that Machine Gun upper back and forensically check it out. I wonder how good it will shoot. Any bets?


.875 at 100yds is going to be my guess. I'm not sure if it sagged. If it sagged all bets off.


I am going to venture 1.5”.

Anyone want to do a friendly wager?



Sub 2 MOA very likely. I wouldn't be surprised if sub 1.5".


Is this an application where axial fluting would make sense?


8/13/2024 8:44:25 AM EDT
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Sub 2 MOA very likely. I wouldn't be surprised if sub 1.5".


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I doubt it does that well. Throat erosion will be nasty.
8/13/2024 8:51:26 AM EDT
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No it doesnt.. it's a sample of one that they abuse the shit out in ways they are not meant to be used or ever will, and no way reflects anything..
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This.

You need about 30 data points to show statistical significance.

So unless they melt 30 uppers of each kind, the data points are completely irrelevant.

Still a cool upper though.
8/13/2024 9:03:45 AM EDT
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I’ll take you up on the friendly wager.  I’m going with.996, and you at 1.5.  

I’ll friendly wager you that I will purchase said upper when finished from you if you win.  If I win you send said upper to me with swag!  You’re on
8/13/2024 9:05:22 AM EDT
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I’ll take you up on the friendly wager.  I’m going with.996, and you at 1.5.  

I’ll friendly wager you that I will purchase said upper when finished from you if you win.  If I win you send said upper to me with swag!  You’re on
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I am going to venture 1.5”.

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I’ll take you up on the friendly wager.  I’m going with.996, and you at 1.5.  

I’ll friendly wager you that I will purchase said upper when finished from you if you win.  If I win you send said upper to me with swag!  You’re on


I think that’s a win-win but not in my favor!  But ok I’ll think of something
8/13/2024 9:13:54 AM EDT
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A real service would be to scope the bore and show the results of shooting like a retard.


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I'm interested in that. Many moons ago I worked with a team that cryo dipped barrels. The results were very interesting. We saw serious improvement.

I can only imagine how they would do now with the changes in new improved metals. We moved away from rifle barrels and applied what was learned to M1A Abrams and chain gun barrels. Interesting times.
8/13/2024 6:21:42 PM EDT
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I’ll say 2.2”. If I win, you send me an odg or ddc 11.5 super duty upper. If it’s 1.5 and you win, I’ll write “I want super precision” 1,000 times by hand and mail it to you.

Oh btw, I’m the OP of the original thread here:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Geissele-super-duty-meltdown-autopsy-video-by-Geissele-/5-2741869/?page=1

And obviously a massive G fanboy.
8/13/2024 6:27:21 PM EDT
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This.

You need about 30 data points to show statistical significance.

So unless they melt 30 uppers of each kind, the data points are completely irrelevant.

Still a cool upper though.
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No it doesnt.. it's a sample of one that they abuse the shit out in ways they are not meant to be used or ever will, and no way reflects anything..


This.

You need about 30 data points to show statistical significance.

So unless they melt 30 uppers of each kind, the data points are completely irrelevant.

Still a cool upper though.
Exactly .
Sample size of one?
Lol.
8/13/2024 6:39:55 PM EDT
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Because this is America and we shouldn’t have to validate our Constitutional rights to do what we want with our own property.

My go to guns have pencil profiles. I also have multiple guns that serve no purpose but entertainment.
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At what PRACTICAL point does it matter?

Because this is America and we shouldn’t have to validate our Constitutional rights to do what we want with our own property.

My go to guns have pencil profiles. I also have multiple guns that serve no purpose but entertainment.



Sometimes the most fun guns to shoot are the ones that have no real other purpose than it looks and is fun to shoot, whatever that means to the individual shooting.  Different people like to shoot different things and in different ways.  It’s truly a sport all can find some niche that’s of interest.  I enjoy it all some way more than other but a range time is happy time.
8/13/2024 7:00:36 PM EDT
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I’ll say 2.2”. If I win, you send me an odg or ddc 11.5 super duty upper. If it’s 1.5 and you win, I’ll write “I want super precision” 1,000 times by hand and mail it to you.

Oh btw, I’m the OP of the original thread here:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Geissele-super-duty-meltdown-autopsy-video-by-Geissele-/5-2741869/?page=1

And obviously a massive G fanboy.
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I am going to venture 1.5”.

Anyone want to do a friendly wager?

I’ll say 2.2”. If I win, you send me an odg or ddc 11.5 super duty upper. If it’s 1.5 and you win, I’ll write “I want super precision” 1,000 times by hand and mail it to you.

Oh btw, I’m the OP of the original thread here:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Geissele-super-duty-meltdown-autopsy-video-by-Geissele-/5-2741869/?page=1

And obviously a massive G fanboy.


Alright you are on!  It’s goes for everyone too. GACS will organize!

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