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6/12/2025 11:58:23 AM EDT
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Springfield Echelon

https://www.springfield-armory.com/echelon-series-handguns/echelon-handguns/
6/12/2025 12:51:08 PM EDT
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If people could shy away from Glocks for five minutes, they would realize that everything today is really good.
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This is very true. Even as a diehard Glock guy. You have try to hard to find a pistol nowadays that really is bad.
6/12/2025 1:55:07 PM EDT
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This is very true. Even as a diehard Glock guy. You have try to hard to find a pistol nowadays that really is bad.
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This is very true. Even as a diehard Glock guy. You have try to hard to find a pistol nowadays that really is bad.


SIG's managed.  
6/12/2025 2:13:35 PM EDT
[#4]
Get the Walther.
6/12/2025 2:14:19 PM EDT
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Why limit yourself to striker fired guns?
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this
6/12/2025 2:15:35 PM EDT
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I’m seriously considering a Smith and Wesson Competitor as my next carry gun project. I just like big, heavy pistols packed full of 9mm.

Here’s my Pro X, which I do carry. I love this thing.



My current project is a one-in-3.5mil Sig 320 build. Nothing else like it exists.
6/12/2025 2:19:57 PM EDT
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In order of my favorite alternative pistols,

B&T Mk2
M&P 2.0
FNC, but the FNS, would be the striker.version
6/12/2025 2:24:24 PM EDT
[#8]
P226 Legion
6/12/2025 2:28:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Dan Wesson DWX
6/12/2025 2:29:59 PM EDT
[#10]
Glock 17,34 or 45. All are proven performers that do not randomly send rounds all willy nilly into your leg or the legs of others.
6/12/2025 3:50:37 PM EDT
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Was about to post this.  I shot one recently and was pretty impressed.  Felt good in the hand and a decent trigger.  Im big on 1911s but this was pretty good for a striker fired gun.  

I had a Walther PDP compact and I got rid of it.  The slide release was too prominent and got in the way even with the large backstrap.
6/12/2025 3:52:42 PM EDT
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Maybe "retrain" isn't really a big deal.  But the gun types are different and I want to stay with a striker fired gun for now.  Eventually I will invest in a 2011 but not yet.  A "range gun" in my mind is one that is used almost solely for target and competition shooting and is not really intended for daily concealed carry.  Could definitely but be used in a home defense/night stand gun role.
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Ok. So if it’s a competition gun that changes things. What sport and division?
6/12/2025 3:54:08 PM EDT
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I think it's pretty clear that means it's not something he's going to carry for duty or SD.


I call mine "competition guns" because it makes me sound cooler.
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A “range gun” can be anything from a $100 HiPoint used to shoot at old appliances at a trash dump to an $8k hand built Open Gun for USPSA.
6/12/2025 3:55:08 PM EDT
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That’s about twice his budget.
6/12/2025 4:05:20 PM EDT
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I am strongly of the opinion that all practical handguns should be glocks, and all cool handguns should be 1911's. It doesn't get better than a 1911. I'm saving up for an optic ready 9mm commander at the moment.
6/12/2025 4:07:52 PM EDT
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You could do well with a Sig P365 Fuse and any of the aftermarket metal frames. Tons of modularity to make it into what you want.
6/12/2025 4:08:32 PM EDT
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Walther is a very good option.
6/12/2025 4:10:46 PM EDT
[#18]
Palmetto State Armory Dagger, full size.
6/12/2025 4:11:16 PM EDT
[#19]
M&P 2.0 of any style is good to go.
6/12/2025 4:23:57 PM EDT
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These threads would do well to have a list of pistols you already own. What you carry. What your “range purpose” is, and what your relative skill level is.

6/12/2025 4:51:58 PM EDT
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I am strongly of the opinion that all practical handguns should be glocks, and all cool handguns should be 1911's. It doesn't get better than a 1911. I'm saving up for an optic ready 9mm commander at the moment.
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You left out the Browning HiPower.
6/12/2025 5:14:35 PM EDT
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P10 C or F , they're great and cheap
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Both wrong because the OP said striker fired while actually being very correct about what the OP should do.

You will not find a better pistol at that price point.

P10 C or F , they're great and cheap


This. I just got back from shooting my new P10C and like it a lot.  Grip texture is a little aggressive on the front of the grip if you dont shoot with gloves.
I want to work on that.  But it shoots very well and I like it as well as my PPQ Match at combat ranges.
6/12/2025 5:19:28 PM EDT
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If you shoot thumbs forward on the frame you’ll go mad trying to shoot a PDP.  I hate Sig’s and the HK VP for the same reason. I want to grab the frame, not curl my thumb with a tea cup grip like some wine cooler drinking queer from 1972 trying to avoid a poorly placed slide stop.
6/12/2025 5:39:51 PM EDT
[#24]
Beretta 92SAO
6/13/2025 1:39:43 PM EDT
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6/13/2025 1:46:50 PM EDT
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Another vote for the PDP.

I basically turned my 4.5" Pro SD and a 4" Compact into a Pro-X, before the Pro-X was an option.  

6/13/2025 7:17:13 PM EDT
[#27]
Ordered a Walther PDP Pro X from Buds today.  Then I ordered a Holosun SCS for PDP from Primary Arms.  I still need to decide on what holster to order.

Thanks to everyone who offered good advice.  I can't believe how excited I am to get this gun!
6/13/2025 8:46:28 PM EDT
[#28]
I'm staying away from Sig until Cohen is gone and they've recovered from his stupidity. I'd go HK VP9 personally.
6/13/2025 9:06:25 PM EDT
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Ordered a Walther PDP Pro X from Buds today.  Then I ordered a Holosun SCS for PDP from Primary Arms.  I still need to decide on what holster to order.

Thanks to everyone who offered good advice.  I can't believe how excited I am to get this gun!
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Awesome, I hope its a great shooter.

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