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Christian militias (currently killing every muslim they can find): http://abload.de/img/car01mpzur.jpg homemade rifles http://abload.de/img/car04rgzsr.jpg http://abload.de/img/car05x3sjr.jpg Child soldiers: http://abload.de/img/car028baf0.jpg Does the CAR have strict gun control laws? No matter, people that want to slaughter each other will find a way. |
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Same 8 wheeled death trap, same crew, somethings missing though 
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Quoted: Height over bore on that eotech is what, about a foot?  Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That new FAMAS is weird looking.............what's the deal with the large handguard? You can aim without exposing yourself (sights are displayed on helmet-mounted glasses), use your radio and shoot while keeping the target on sight. Well at least it's the theory http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/FELIN-openphotonet_PICT6047.jpg Height over bore on that eotech is what, about a foot? But the giant green optic is probably not going to be used in this operation so it's going to be eotech only as in the first pics. |
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Quoted: Pretty unfair to characterize French troops this way. They fought for many years in WWI and lost hundreds of thousands of men. And Vietnam? The US weren't able to win there either. Quoted: Quoted: Do they need help surrendering? Pretty unfair to characterize French troops this way. They fought for many years in WWI and lost hundreds of thousands of men. And Vietnam? The US weren't able to win there either. |
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That new FAMAS is weird looking.............what's the deal with the large handguard? You can aim without exposing yourself (sights are displayed on helmet-mounted glasses), use your radio and shoot while keeping the target on sight. Well at least it's the theory
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While you are probably joking, the French have certainly done a lot of fighting in Africa. White flags certainly were not a part of that equation. Quoted:
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Are white flags standard issue still? While you are probably joking, the French have certainly done a lot of fighting in Africa. White flags certainly were not a part of that equation. Yeah, plenty of video Online, showing them shooting Africans that are carrying sticks. Tough guys, those French. |
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Do they need help surrendering? Pretty unfair to characterize French troops this way. They fought for many years in WWI and lost hundreds of thousands of men. And Vietnam? The US weren't able to win there either. I'm guessing the French could've as well. |
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Rolled up sleeves? In the field with softcovers? No knee and elbow pads? Soldiers from a country on a military operation actually flying their flag on their vehicles like they're proud of it or something? Those frogs have no idea how to run a successful military operation. I read an article by a US soldier where he was with French Army soldiers setting up an outpost in a Taliban controlled area and the US soldier was telling a French Army Captain about how it seemed like there were always two US Army senior NCOs stationed at the DFAC who's job it was to yell at US soldiers about uniform violations. The French Army Captain stood there on his new combat outpost with no helmet on, a beer in his hand, and his soldiers behind him grilling steaks and said, "We don't have this problem in the French Army." |
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Are white flags standard issue still? While you are probably joking, the French have certainly done a lot of fighting in Africa. White flags certainly were not a part of that equation. Yeah, plenty of video Online, showing them shooting Africans that are carrying sticks. Tough guys, those French. That's the point. The French make it clear, especially if you live in a former colony, that they don't care how threatening or non-threatening you might appear, if you annoy them they are going to kill you and nobody in the world press is going to care. |
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Do they need help surrendering? Pretty unfair to characterize French troops this way. They fought for many years in WWI and lost hundreds of thousands of men. And Vietnam? The US weren't able to win there either. The French could say the same thing. |
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So did the Christians.
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Those Christian militia guys look seriously outgunned by the Muslims. That doesn't look like a very good proposition for them.... The Muslim groups have had an influx of foreign fighters, and they brought weapons with them. So did the Christians.
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Quoted: Some people pray for the end of civilization because they think they will finally have a chance to be a badass. Others who already are badasses, fight to preserve the civilization we currently have. Quoted: Quoted: why does the western world keep going into Africa? I just read a thread about south Africa how white intervention turned various cultural blacks into the savages that they are today. If Africans say western invention does more harm than good and western people say the same then why don't we leave Africa to the Africans? Some people pray for the end of civilization because they think they will finally have a chance to be a badass. Others who already are badasses, fight to preserve the civilization we currently have. Anyway CAR is a mess the militias, I think mainly Muslim, have been chased out of the urban centers so now they are attacking the poor bastards living in towns and in the bush. Hopefully the French will hunt them down and not just hunker down in the urban areas. |
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French army kills fighters in CARFrench soldiers have killed unidentified fighters in the capital of the Central African Republic near the airport, a French army spokesman told the Reuters news agency. The army shot the men in clashes early on Thursday in Bangui, the official said. More French troops rumbled into the country on Friday, trying to stop violence in the capital a day after armed Christian fighters raided Muslim neighbourhoods, leaving at least 185 people dead. |
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Man, France has been really active in Africa as of late. France has historically taken a paternal role ( for lack of a better term) with it's former colonies in Africa. A friend of mine speaks French and spent several years in Africa with the US Army. He likes to say that anywhere in Africa that they speak French is definitely a shit hole. |
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What the French did in Mali certainly makes a lot more sense than staying around for 10 years trying to "nation build". The French don't exactly have a good record at the whole "nation-building" thing. I'm not even sure I'd let them put France in the "success" column. |
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Quoted: Same 8 wheeled death trap, same crew, somethings missing though Quoted: Quoted: Muslims former rebels currently holding the power and retalliating against christian civilians: http://abload.de/img/car30plsyh.jpg Ironic gates are ironic http://abload.de/img/car369toei.jpg Pretty cool little trucks, Kubota diesel, etc. Nifty trailer. Air droppable, used as command/mortar/log trucks. I"d have to dig up my old thread on military AATV's, but I think they were made by Max. |
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I read an article by a US soldier where he was with French Army soldiers setting up an outpost in a Taliban controlled area and the US soldier was telling a French Army Captain about how it seemed like there were always two US Army senior NCOs stationed at the DFAC who's job it was to yell at US soldiers about uniform violations. The French Army Captain stood there on his new combat outpost with no helmet on, a beer in his hand, and his soldiers behind him grilling steaks and said, "We don't have this problem in the French Army." Quoted:
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Rolled up sleeves? In the field with softcovers? No knee and elbow pads? Soldiers from a country on a military operation actually flying their flag on their vehicles like they're proud of it or something? Those frogs have no idea how to run a successful military operation. I read an article by a US soldier where he was with French Army soldiers setting up an outpost in a Taliban controlled area and the US soldier was telling a French Army Captain about how it seemed like there were always two US Army senior NCOs stationed at the DFAC who's job it was to yell at US soldiers about uniform violations. The French Army Captain stood there on his new combat outpost with no helmet on, a beer in his hand, and his soldiers behind him grilling steaks and said, "We don't have this problem in the French Army." The French probably don't send useless CSM's and O5's with every unit. |
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I read an article by a US soldier where he was with French Army soldiers setting up an outpost in a Taliban controlled area and the US soldier was telling a French Army Captain about how it seemed like there were always two US Army senior NCOs stationed at the DFAC who's job it was to yell at US soldiers about uniform violations. The French Army Captain stood there on his new combat outpost with no helmet on, a beer in his hand, and his soldiers behind him grilling steaks and said, "We don't have this problem in the French Army." Quoted:
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Rolled up sleeves? In the field with softcovers? No knee and elbow pads? Soldiers from a country on a military operation actually flying their flag on their vehicles like they're proud of it or something? Those frogs have no idea how to run a successful military operation. I read an article by a US soldier where he was with French Army soldiers setting up an outpost in a Taliban controlled area and the US soldier was telling a French Army Captain about how it seemed like there were always two US Army senior NCOs stationed at the DFAC who's job it was to yell at US soldiers about uniform violations. The French Army Captain stood there on his new combat outpost with no helmet on, a beer in his hand, and his soldiers behind him grilling steaks and said, "We don't have this problem in the French Army." |
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Quoted: It's interesting that there really aren't many of those vehicles out there....and I wonder how South Africa lost one? Pretty cool little trucks, Kubota diesel, etc. Nifty trailer. Air droppable, used as command/mortar/log trucks. I"d have to dig up my old thread on military AATV's, but I think they were made by Max. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Muslims former rebels currently holding the power and retalliating against christian civilians: http://abload.de/img/car30plsyh.jpg Ironic gates are ironic http://abload.de/img/car369toei.jpg Pretty cool little trucks, Kubota diesel, etc. Nifty trailer. Air droppable, used as command/mortar/log trucks. I"d have to dig up my old thread on military AATV's, but I think they were made by Max. These ATV have been captured/abandonned. Anyway if they managed to kill 13 elite SAF soldiers they might be better trained than they look like. |
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send this - not the one that's inert
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The rebels ambushed and killed 13 South african paratroopers in January and South Africa left the country. These ATV have been captured/abandonned. Anyway if they managed to kill 13 elite SAF soldiers they might be better trained than they look like. Quoted:
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Muslims former rebels currently holding the power and retalliating against christian civilians: http://abload.de/img/car30plsyh.jpg Ironic gates are ironic http://abload.de/img/car369toei.jpg
Pretty cool little trucks, Kubota diesel, etc. Nifty trailer. Air droppable, used as command/mortar/log trucks. I"d have to dig up my old thread on military AATV's, but I think they were made by Max. These ATV have been captured/abandonned. Anyway if they managed to kill 13 elite SAF soldiers they might be better trained than they look like. One of those rebels has a R4 too. |
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The rebels ambushed and killed 13 South african paratroopers in January and South Africa left the country. These ATV have been captured/abandonned. Anyway if they managed to kill 13 elite SAF soldiers they might be better trained than they look like. One of those rebels has a R4 too. I noticed that too. What is that Pale Olive/Tan/Dark Brown camo on the Africans? It looks pretty neat. |
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Those Christian militia guys look seriously outgunned by the Muslims. That doesn't look like a very good proposition for them.... The Muslim groups have had an influx of foreign fighters, and they brought weapons with them. So did the Christians.
The Christians seem to be less organized than the Muslims. Hopefully the French presence will buy them time. A few photos don't tell the whole story I'm sure. But, does look as if they have only single-shot hunting shotguns of the type I've seen in most 3rd world countries. Such guns seem to be the only firearms "allowed" by a governement - probably as they feel the owners could not effectively use them against a militia or military. I find the use of the RPG so odd in that the rounds pictured are all chaped charge anti tank rounds. They make anti personal rounds for it, but they have a very distinct shape. |
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Muslims former rebels currently holding the power and retalliating against christian civilians: http://abload.de/img/car30plsyh.jpg Ironic gates are ironic http://abload.de/img/car369toei.jpg
Pretty cool little trucks, Kubota diesel, etc. Nifty trailer. Air droppable, used as command/mortar/log trucks. I"d have to dig up my old thread on military AATV's, but I think they were made by Max. These ATV have been captured/abandonned. Anyway if they managed to kill 13 elite SAF soldiers they might be better trained than they look like. One of those rebels has a R4 too. Did I see a Czech VZ 58 in there too? |