Class. You has it. 
Why do you feel the need to defend yourself on a forum? If the win is in the bag, or so you say, why even engage us? It doesn't make you look better. Actually, you come across as a smug dick with a chip on your shoulder, out to prove everyone wrong. 
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Actually, you come across as a smug dick with a chip on your shoulder, out to prove everyone wrong. At this point 9 months down the road, and specifically in regards to LWRCI, that's exactly correct. I do have a chip on my shoulder, and its going to get resolved. I'm not going to be threatened with a lawsuit to be silenced, and then continue being silent. If you have called out my apparently "hidden agenda" then you have succeeded. Yaay Congrats! |
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Regardless of what really occurred, or the outcome of the pending court case, your demeanor and attitude here insure that I will never purchase on of your products. Not here to sell products. If the reason you are going to buy a $3500 rifle is only because you like me, and only because I stroke your fur the right direction, then I would say you don't really need the rifle and it should go to someone else. |
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Regardless of what really occurred, or the outcome of the pending court case, your demeanor and attitude here insure that I will never purchase on of your products. Not here to sell products. If the reason you are going to buy a $3500 rifle is only because you like me, and only because I stroke your fur the right direction, then I would say you don't really need the rifle and it should go to someone else. +1 Did you just plus one yourself? I get it OP you worked hard on something and someone tries to steal it, you are pissed. So if what you say is 100% true then have at it but really it matter little in this forum until you win. Even then most will still hate you because you had to sue their beloved LWRC Yes, I understand that. Such is life. And it goes on. No, +1 to the following guy who +1'ed something I previously commented on. |
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Don't cont your chickens till they hatch. My ex-wife had a medical malpractice case that should have been a slam dunk. The doctor did surgery on the wrong disk, then admitted to doing, after he returned from a 9 day vacation.
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Corby helped make prints for LWRC
Corby wanted either rifles or monetary compensation for his engineering work LWRC Said get bent, and Corby was not happy Corby sued LWRC LWRC Said Corby needs to prove he even worked for LWRC Corby produces prints and technical data that he worked on for LWRC and posts it on the internet.  Corby says what now bishes?
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Corby helped make prints for LWRC Corby wanted either rifles or monetary compensation for his engineering work LWRC Said get bent, and Corby was not happy Corby sued LWRC LWRC Said Corby needs to prove he even worked for LWRC Corby produces prints and technical data that he worked on for LWRC and posts it on the internet. Corby says what now bishes?
And that's the low down from what I know. Now we are getting somewhere! A few major details incorrect, corrected in (parenthesis) as follows: -Corby helped make prints for LWRC (which included the content of patent 8,342,075) -Corby wanted either rifles or monetary compensation for his engineering work (correct, I was provide half a rifle and no money) -LWRC Said get bent, and Corby was not happy (Incorrect, there was no ill-intent by either party at that time) -(Corby was challenged on snipershide by a third party as to whether he did any work for LWRC, Corby stated yes work was performed for LWRC) -(LWRCI threatened Corby to stop talking about and remove all references regarding his prior association with LWRC's technical data, and threatened to sue him for patent infringement and defamation) -(LWRCI posted on its forum and told others that Corby was a liar and never did any work for LWRC) -Corby sued LWRCI for defamation -LWRCI Said Corby needs to prove he even worked for LWRC (and submits a sworn affidavit to the Court that no work was performed by Corby, in its failed attempt at dismissal) -Corby produces prints and technical data that he worked on for LWRC and posts it on the internet. Corby says what now bishes? (Exactly)
-(9 months later, pending the Colt acquisition, and not learning from its first mistake, LWRCI then again threatened Corby for patent infringement and defamation) -(The following day, Corby again preemptively sued LWRCI but in a different court (Federal) for correction of inventorship against 8,342,075) -(LWRCI then sued Corby in the same court for "defaming" its IP portfolio and interfering with the Colt acquisition) |
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Tl;DR Who's got cliffs? or Should I: a) Care b) Over react and send emails out first and boycott someone c) Do nothing Just let me know which one and I will comply. Patent or design property have allegedly been stolen/copied without approval and there is a lawsuit to determine who is right. Colt has allegedly bought the company being sued for this alleged infringement. |
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From the little I know about Corby, he comes across a little rough around the edges. He's not afraid to tell you directly exactly what he is thinking, and some folks don't like that... He is from TX, and reminds me of Mark LaRue a little.
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From the little I know about Corby, he comes across a little rough around the edges. He's not afraid to tell you directly exactly what he is thinking, and some folks don't like that... He is from TX, and reminds me of Mark LaRue a little. With that being said, i think Corby is correct and in the right on this deal from the research I have done on it. I would be pissed also if I was him. Yup...........from the stuff I have read he could be right in the main. Time will tell I guess. |
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Now we are getting somewhere! A few major details incorrect, corrected in (parenthesis) as follows: -Corby helped make prints for LWRC (which included the content of patent 8,342,075) -Corby wanted either rifles or monetary compensation for his engineering work (correct, I was provide half a rifle and no money) -LWRC Said get bent, and Corby was not happy (Incorrect, there was no ill-intent by either party at that time) -(Corby was challenged on snipershide by a third party as to whether he did any work for LWRC, Corby stated yes work was performed for LWRC) -(LWRCI threatened Corby to stop talking about and remove all references regarding his prior association with LWRC's technical data, and threatened to sue him for patent infringement and defamation) -(LWRCI posted on its forum and told others that Corby was a liar and never did any work for LWRC) -Corby sued LWRCI for defamation -LWRCI Said Corby needs to prove he even worked for LWRC (and submits a sworn affidavit to the Court that no work was performed by Corby, in its failed attempt at dismissal) -Corby produces prints and technical data that he worked on for LWRC and posts it on the internet. Corby says what now bishes? (Exactly)
-(9 months later, pending the Colt acquisition, and not learning from its first mistake, LWRCI then again threatened Corby for patent infringement and defamation) -(The following day, Corby again preemptively sued LWRCI but in a different court (Federal) for correction of inventorship against 8,342,075) -(LWRCI then sued Corby in the same court for "defaming" its IP portfolio and interfering with the Colt acquisition) Quoted:
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Corby helped make prints for LWRC Corby wanted either rifles or monetary compensation for his engineering work LWRC Said get bent, and Corby was not happy Corby sued LWRC LWRC Said Corby needs to prove he even worked for LWRC Corby produces prints and technical data that he worked on for LWRC and posts it on the internet. Corby says what now bishes?
And that's the low down from what I know. Now we are getting somewhere! A few major details incorrect, corrected in (parenthesis) as follows: -Corby helped make prints for LWRC (which included the content of patent 8,342,075) -Corby wanted either rifles or monetary compensation for his engineering work (correct, I was provide half a rifle and no money) -LWRC Said get bent, and Corby was not happy (Incorrect, there was no ill-intent by either party at that time) -(Corby was challenged on snipershide by a third party as to whether he did any work for LWRC, Corby stated yes work was performed for LWRC) -(LWRCI threatened Corby to stop talking about and remove all references regarding his prior association with LWRC's technical data, and threatened to sue him for patent infringement and defamation) -(LWRCI posted on its forum and told others that Corby was a liar and never did any work for LWRC) -Corby sued LWRCI for defamation -LWRCI Said Corby needs to prove he even worked for LWRC (and submits a sworn affidavit to the Court that no work was performed by Corby, in its failed attempt at dismissal) -Corby produces prints and technical data that he worked on for LWRC and posts it on the internet. Corby says what now bishes? (Exactly)
-(9 months later, pending the Colt acquisition, and not learning from its first mistake, LWRCI then again threatened Corby for patent infringement and defamation) -(The following day, Corby again preemptively sued LWRCI but in a different court (Federal) for correction of inventorship against 8,342,075) -(LWRCI then sued Corby in the same court for "defaming" its IP portfolio and interfering with the Colt acquisition) Thank you for detailing it out, it makes a lot more sense now. Good luck with your pursuits. I'm not a huge fan of piston ARs and was never really a fan of LWRC to begin with, so my only dog in this hunt is I hope Colt doesn't get left holding the bag
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Quoted: HipFiredGun, 3ShotBursts, and CmdrColt... Apparently the internet DOES forget. It is you. Quoted: Quoted: Operating a business, with an internet that doesn't forget, I scratch my head on your motivation here. Maybe it's me, maybe I am not up the intellectual standards needed... HipFiredGun, 3ShotBursts, and CmdrColt... Apparently the internet DOES forget. It is you. The internet never forgets. F U AROCK |
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From the little I know about Corby, he comes across a little rough around the edges. He's not afraid to tell you directly exactly what he is thinking, and some folks don't like that... He is from TX, and reminds me of Mark LaRue a little. With that being said, i think Corby is correct and in the right on this deal from the research I have done on it. I would be pissed also if I was him. More like Dick Swan than Mark Larue. good luck on getting the 12.4 million dollars that you are suing for. |
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No offense, but I can't think of one situation where a CEO or sole proprietor has used a gun forum on the interwebs to successfully state his case. They and their companies, regardless of the circumstance and being right or wrong, always come out a loser. When will you guys figure this out? I wish you luck, but there are better ways to handle your PR. Can you please advise and I will certainly take it under consideration. |
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I never cared for LWRC any way When paul posted here years ago had so many shill accounts that it was hard to keep straight Long story short, always some sort of drama with lwrc It was never conclusively determined that Paul Leitner-Wise was the sole user of those shill accounts. Darren and Jesse had access to the same IP and were the primary spokespersons for LWRC at that time. In my opinion they are still employed with LWRCI because they may have framed PLW while he was out of the country. And I also think they are actively on this board and/or recruiting people to do whatever damage control is remaining available to save their acquisition. |
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No offense, but I can't think of one situation where a CEO or sole proprietor has used a gun forum on the interwebs to successfully state his case. They and their companies, regardless of the circumstance and being right or wrong, always come out a loser. When will you guys figure this out? I wish you luck, but there are better ways to handle your PR. Can you please advise and I will certainly take it under consideration. the douche that is suing snipers hide over internet butthurt came here to "try his case"  was looking for the original thread but I think it was deleted
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Mr Hall, disregard my post in the other thread. Found my answers here. I want an LWRC IC lower, this will certainly play into how I go about getting one. Shilling and the internet go together like white on rice. I assume anyone talking up/defending a product is a shill automatically now days. Its REALLY obvious if you are aware. |
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So if I understand this right, You did some engineering work and got paid for it. Now your suing to get a piece of the patient based on the work you already got paid for?http://www.ar15.com/forums/searchNew.html?b=1&f=5 It's called work for hire and it is not your work if it was developed while in the employ/contract of another. In short, you agreed to do work for someone and were paid for this work. The work now belongs to those you did the work for. End of story. Now I agree you should be given credit for the work but you can claim no ownership of it. Second, even if I was paid, there was no assignment of IP made in agreement with LWRC when I performed the work. General Disclaimer: (Please don't take my rebuttal as a personal attack against you...) You ought to be spending your money at a patent attorney's office for a quick lesson on intellectual property. You're wasting it elsewhere. |
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You ought to be spending your money at a patent attorney's office for a quick lesson on intellectual property. You're wasting it elsewhere. F&D has an in-house patent attorney. Thank you for the non-advice. One of the partners is a patent attorney? Should I look into that to confirm? So far all we know is that you have no idea about how the 1st Amendment relates to you, and that you performed work under contract to LWRC. What you apparently don't understand is that you don't own that intellectual property, and that you aren't entitled to lay claim to it. Keep us up to date on the law suits, if you have enough money remaining to keep the lights on. Shouldn't you be standing in front of a lathe or assembling guns to fill old orders, instead of whining here? Are you representing yourself? |
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Are you representing yourself? As of today, yes. And having done a fine-ass job of it. Regardless its completely irrelevant. This wouldn't be the first lawsuit I've won against a huge company and their lawfirms ProSe. In fact, one of the previous was worth over half a billion at the time, they are bankrupt now. And Ive never filed a frivolous suit, it would be on record. As of tomorrow, no. What else do you have? |
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Purse fight !!! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I didn't know I was involved. Guy posted a holy wall of text..asked for help to get to one of the usual GD outcomes..now I am involved with BS, Personal Attacks and purse swinging. Don't know how I got here, but OK. Should I give the OP credit before I get sued? He's already drafting the papers to sue you now. That's what you get for posting in this thread. Oh crap, I guess I will now get sued. |
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... What else do you have? You can find a link to information about advertising your business here in the lower left hand corner of every page. Dude, sshhhh...this is my FAVORITE sort of advertising. Company owner shows up on the internet to fling around accusations and statements, and then the thread devolves into profanity and insults on both sides. Everyone looks bad, but company owner makes a permanent record of how F&D Defense handles customer service and PR that can haunt them for a decade. Mr. Hall, I look forward to your return to AR15.com with a final legal judgement in your favor. You should have waited until you had that, to start slinging accusations and mud. This is funnier, though! Keep on keepin' on - the internet never forgets. |
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Regardless of what really occurred, or the outcome of the pending court case, your demeanor and attitude here insure that I will never purchase on of your products. Not here to sell products. If the reason you are going to buy a $3500 rifle is only because you like me, and only because I stroke your fur the right direction, then I would say you don't really need the rifle and it should go to someone else. You know, I check into a company's rep before I spend $35 with them, because I'm cautious and frugal. Before I spend $3500, I make damn sure it's going to people that I can trust to do the right thing if I have any issues with their product. Guess which way your behaviour in this thread is inclining me? It's not towards your expensive vaporware piston rifle with the extensive record of...ok, no idea what - or your soon-to-be-counter-sued-out-of-existence company. The ordering terms on your website are interesting too - $750 non-refundable deposit, and no payment by credit cards - checks and bank checks only. And before you accuse me of shilling, I don't own an LWRC, or have any business dealings with them. I just know what it looks like when a company owner self-destucts on the internet. Proclaiming loudly and publicly that you don't need the business of anyone who doesn't like the way you fling mud around is one of key signs. |
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