[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Cartel Gunman Shootout in Arizona (Page 2 of 6)
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Quoted: The real cartels don't do much work this side of the border. Some of their lower level goons might, but those are independent contractors. The real cartel members know that they don't want that type of attention. They don't want the US to really take an interest. well maybe in your area, but we have long dealt with actual cartel members here locally doing much worse... they are here and are very active. |
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Quoted: well maybe in your area, but we have long dealt with actual cartel members here locally doing much worse... they are here and are very active. Quoted: Quoted: The real cartels don't do much work this side of the border. Some of their lower level goons might, but those are independent contractors. The real cartel members know that they don't want that type of attention. They don't want the US to really take an interest. well maybe in your area, but we have long dealt with actual cartel members here locally doing much worse... they are here and are very active. They are everywhere. |
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Quoted: Stolen from who exactly? They aren't NFA guns. Their earliest manufacture is 1999. Law enforcement. Dealer samples. Who knows. GD is very quick to label everything involving hispanics and illegal/violent acts as cartel. "The cartel" is the new "the mob" boogeyman of the contemporary 21st century. |
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Quoted: Right? I'd settle for a semi ump Quoted: Quoted: I want a UMP. Right? I'd settle for a semi ump LOL no you don't, other than looking cool in a video game, they are not that good. Heavy crappy trigger, blowback recoil pulse. That tungsten filled bolt reciprocating is something. I have an Omega, and it runs like a champ but it is not as fun as you would think. I tried a Tommy Built, it was just like my Omega. BTW the only Omega parts are the receiver and the rails, the rest is HK. This thing goes through extractors every couple thousand rounds. The only neat thing is how easy it is to swap in a different cal. One pin out, then swap the barrel, bold and mag and you are good. For blowback, B&T APC9 is what you seek. The quality is leaps and bounds over the HK. |
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Quoted: Not finished watching yet... But both Det. 1& 2 had malfunctions with their MCXs right away. ![]() Did they never shoot these guns before? or previously had failures at the range during training that were not addressed? |
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Quoted: It had a real full auto lower. There is about a 0.001% chance that UMP was "converted". Quoted: Quoted: Could it be a converted semi ? It had a real full auto lower. There is about a 0.001% chance that UMP was "converted". I can't remember the exact details but the bolt and receiver are different. Meaning you need the full auto bolt and the lower but that won't fit in a semi receiver. |
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Scottsdale PD has not said whether Calderon had a weapon or attempted to threaten the officers before they shot him. However, in court Tuesday, prosecutors told the judge that Calderon was in full body armor and reportedly shot at officers with an AK-47. It’s always an AK-47. ![]() |
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Quoted: Why go with the subsonic rounds when dealing with the high probability of the suspect having body armor? Subs might have contributed to the failures. Sounded like the rifles were suppressed. Maybe they never ran that particular combination. In any event, I'm taking note that subs and armored perps are not the winning combination. |
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Quoted: Shit, this won't even make the papers in El Paso... Quoted: Quoted: "You should move to a small town where the rule of law still exists. You will not survive here. You are not a wolf......And this is the land of wolves now." . Shit, this won't even make the papers in El Paso... Got a little nutty, huh? |
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Quoted: Subs might have contributed to the failures. Sounded like the rifles were suppressed. Maybe they never ran that particular combination. In any event, I'm taking note that subs and armored perps are not the winning combination. Idk it seemed like they won |
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$6500 for that Zuk?! Detective 1 and 2 got lucky AF. That slav squat was pretty slick. Quoted: Right? I'd settle for a semi ump Quoted: Quoted: I want a UMP. Right? I'd settle for a semi ump Impractical but it's pretty cool. Attached File |
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Quoted: And they don't like Detective 4 much, he was on the wrong side of the circular firing squad His job should have been to block the target vehicle from the rear and hunker down, anything else would have led to crossfire. They got the job done, but executing that with only four guys was a ballsy move. A couple more guys doubled up in the assaulting vehicles would have let them put fire on the target a lot quicker. And after watching the malfunctions, I’m glad my Rattler is a range toy instead of a duty weapon. |
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Quoted: Not super authentic, but good enough. Their sonoran dogs are probably the best you can get in Arizona at a sit down mexican themed restaurant that caters to typical trump voting Americans. Food trucks, converted busses, or any place in Tucson would be the best sonoran dog experience though. A moreno's mexican grill sonoran dog and their not for free anymore chips/salsa :https://i.imgur.com/aCZvsjD.jpg Thanks joe biden! There are a lot of shenanigans I have to suffer through, charging for chips and salsa is not one of them! Like living in North Korea! |
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Quoted: They are fun to shoot. We had some but for they were not suppressed. I'd rather a suppressed AR SBR. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I want a UMP. Right? I'd settle for a semi ump They are fun to shoot. We had some but for they were not suppressed. I'd rather a suppressed AR SBR. Just as long as it isn't a Sig MCX apparently ?? The size difference is negligible. Attached File |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Cartel Gunman Shootout in Arizona (Page 2 of 6)
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