Posted: 6/28/2025 5:02:32 PM EDT
What the heck is going on? It won’t Chamber from a mag, nor will it chamber with a single feed. Factory 6mm ARC Hornady ammo (3 different boxes, all the same lot)  I removed 4 different projectiles from cartridges by using the charging handle.  Aero upper Griffin side pocket BC, handguard, and SNACH Charging handle. Lilja barrel supposedly headspaced to the Maxim bolt in the BCG. LMT MARSL lower LaRue MBT 1x 15 round Duramag 6.5G blue follower 1x 15 rd ASC 6ARC Red follower Allegedly, the builder test fired the upper WITH THE SAME 103gr ELDX AMMO (different lots, I assume) and got great groups (I don’t want to throw him under the bus yet, waiting on his reply to my text). Any suggestions? Should I try a lighter buffer so there is more forward force? A different spring? It has a standard carbine spring. It’s a known “good” lower in that I had a 300 BLK upper on it before and had zero issues. Should I try a “normal” BCG with the Maxim bolt? ETA: photo  This is the 108 gr ELDM, but I assure you that it’s exactly what I’m seeing in EACH example. UPDATE 6/30: Ok, builder has responded (and on the first business day after the problem was found no less). Curt thinks it’s possibly the gas tube, which doesn’t make sense to me, but I’ve never assembled an upper. I told him my belief that it’s the chamber or throat. He will have to diagnose and fix though. Update, he believes it’s the lower interfering,  It’s an LMT MARSL, I don’t buy that. |
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Quoted: You gotta measure that chamber. Do you have any other ammo? Does the bolt cycle smoothly without ammo? Does the bolt head rotate and move freely? Is this "builder" a pro, or a guy with a home workshop? 1) I don’t. I should have bought another box to try, but the dude used that exact ammo (again, I assume a different lot as he’s in another state) to tune the upper (he shoots it at various amounts of torque on the barrel nut and a few other things) with to best accuracy. 2) yes. 3) I’ll grab another BCG as reference and double check. Moves easily.s 4) Pro with good rep on 65Grendel. |
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Hornady ammo can be very inconsistent in seating depth. We had a batch of .22 arc that was all over the place. Ended up reseating all. 1 in 10 would have to be mortared out, with 50/50 leaving the bullet stuck in the chamber. Your going to have to measure to the lands and then compare to the loaded rounds at the ogive. Hopefully not precision firearms. |
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Do those new empty cases chamber? It looks like the bullets are seated too far forward or the throat/lead is short in the chamber. Tony Edited to add: Something is up with that ring around the bullet about 1/4" down from the tip. If the chamber is normal and bullets are seated too long, you will see the rifling engraving the bullets in equidistant locations around the bullet, not a solid circular ring like that. Is that a 22 ARC barrel you are ramming 6 ARC ammo into? |
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Quoted: Try replacing the extractor in the maxim bolt. I had similar issues with a maxim bolt in a 6.5 grendel OP states that the bullets were pulled off the front of the case when he retracted the charging handle. If the extractor was not fully engaged in the rim, he wouldn't be able to do that. Tony |
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Quoted: Do those new empty cases chamber? It looks like the bullets are seated too far forward or the throat/lead is short in the chamber. Tony Edited to add: Something is up with that ring around the bullet about 1/4" down from the tip. If the chamber is normal and bullets are seated too long, you will see the rifling engraving the bullets in equidistant locations around the bullet, not a solid circular ring like that. Is that a 22 ARC barrel you are ramming 6 ARC ammo into? Ring is from how I removed the projectile stuck in chamber. I used a rod with an open tip as it’s what I had on hand.  I’ll try the new unfired empties. Barrel says LILJA 6 ARC  Tony, I appreciate your response. |
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Quoted: Hornady ammo can be very inconsistent in seating depth. We had a batch of .22 arc that was all over the place. Ended up reseating all. 1 in 10 would have to be mortared out, with 50/50 leaving the bullet stuck in the chamber. Your going to have to measure to the lands and then compare to the loaded rounds at the ogive. Hopefully not precision firearms. I hope that’s all it is. 6 ARC IS SUPPOSED TO BE a precision cartridge, so… |
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Switched to BCM bolt carrier (maxim bolt still) and now it seats, but extraction (via charging handle) is brutal. No way it would extract IRL. Here’s a round I yanked out using the charging handle.  I think this is either a tight chamber or ammo QC issue. ETA: Am I seeing the lands and grooves impressions there on the projectile |
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Quoted: I hope that’s all it is. 6 ARC IS SUPPOSED TO BE a precision cartridge, so… You ain't going to get precision ammo from hornady. In my .22 arc their 88 eld match ammo has a 110 Es in 10 rounds. At extended ranges that is going to vertically string bad. My handloads in a similar to 6 arc cartridge are around 20. |
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Quoted: ETA: Am I seeing the lands and grooves impressions there on the projectile I see what looks like a band around the bullet about a 1/16" above the case mouth. Normally if it's just hitting the rifling lands, it doesn't look like that. I pulled the SAAMI reamer print and you should have about .090" of lead/free-bore in front of the case mouth where there should be no rifling with a diameter of .2435. So that's .0005 over projectile diameter which is normal. Then in front of that, you have the lead, which extends another .212" where the rifling is tapered to full engagement. When a machine operator chambers a barrel, the lead/throat dimensions are set by the chamber reamer, it's not normally done in multiple operations for production barrels. You punch the reamer in, and it cuts the chamber, shoulder, neck, throat and lead all in one. Then it is gauged for head space, but it is never gauged for correct lead/throat confirmation. The operator is relying on the reamer to be correct for that. Hopefully, Lilja is not using a PTG chamber reamer. If so, there is no telling what the chamber/lead/throat is actually cut to. Tony |
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Quoted: What the heck is going on? It won’t Chamber from a mag, nor will it chamber with a single feed. https://i.imgur.com/SJrzkVH.jpeg Factory 6mm ARC Hornady ammo (3 different boxes, all the same lot) https://i.imgur.com/cnqnmhO.jpeg I removed 4 different projectiles from cartridges by using the charging handle. https://i.imgur.com/SmGlzXK.jpeg Aero upper Griffin side pocket BC, handguard, and SNACH Charging handle. Lilja barrel supposedly headspaced to the Maxim bolt in the BCG. LMT MARSL lower LaRue MBT 1x 15 round Duramag 6.5G blue follower 1x 15 rd ASC 6ARC Red follower Allegedly, the builder test fired the upper WITH THE SAME 103gr ELDX AMMO (different lots, I assume) and got great groups (I don’t want to throw him under the bus yet, waiting on his reply to my text). Any suggestions? Should I try a lighter buffer so there is more forward force? A different spring? It has a standard carbine spring. It’s a known “good” lower in that I had a 300 BLK upper on it before and had zero issues. Should I try a “normal” BCG with the Maxim bolt? Measure the OAL" of the loaded rounds. 2.250" is what I would consider maximum, leaving very little room for clearance inside the magazine. Usually, if the bullet is jamming in the rifling, the bolt will still close because the case gets forced forward buy the action spring/BCG. Of course, this depends on how deep the bullet is engraving the rifling. Firing a rifle with the bullets jammed this hard will spike pressure! |
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Quoted: I see what looks like a band around the bullet about a 1/16" above the case mouth. Normally if it's just hitting the rifling lands, it doesn't look like that. I pulled the SAAMI reamer print and you should have about .090" of lead/free-bore in front of the case mouth where there should be no rifling with a diameter of .2435. So that's .0005 over projectile diameter which is normal. Then in front of that, you have the lead, which extends another .212" where the rifling is tapered to full engagement. When a machine operator chambers a barrel, the lead/throat dimensions are set by the chamber reamer, it's not normally done in multiple operations for production barrels. You punch the reamer in, and it cuts the chamber, shoulder, neck, throat and lead all in one. Then it is gauged for head space, but it is never gauged for correct lead/throat confirmation. The operator is relying on the reamer to be correct for that. Hopefully, Lilja is not using a PTG chamber reamer. If so, there is no telling what the chamber/lead/throat is actually cut to. Tony Quoted: Quoted: ETA: Am I seeing the lands and grooves impressions there on the projectile I see what looks like a band around the bullet about a 1/16" above the case mouth. Normally if it's just hitting the rifling lands, it doesn't look like that. I pulled the SAAMI reamer print and you should have about .090" of lead/free-bore in front of the case mouth where there should be no rifling with a diameter of .2435. So that's .0005 over projectile diameter which is normal. Then in front of that, you have the lead, which extends another .212" where the rifling is tapered to full engagement. When a machine operator chambers a barrel, the lead/throat dimensions are set by the chamber reamer, it's not normally done in multiple operations for production barrels. You punch the reamer in, and it cuts the chamber, shoulder, neck, throat and lead all in one. Then it is gauged for head space, but it is never gauged for correct lead/throat confirmation. The operator is relying on the reamer to be correct for that. Hopefully, Lilja is not using a PTG chamber reamer. If so, there is no telling what the chamber/lead/throat is actually cut to. Tony I’m not sure if the band is from the projectile being yanked partially out of the cartridge on ejection or if it’s from not being seated deep enough or if it’s from being stuffed into the lands and grooves I’ll contact Lilja on Monday. This wasn’t a cheap upper, and the claims for accuracy by Lilja and the builder are pretty spectacular… |
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Quoted: Measure the OAL" of the loaded rounds. 2.250" is what I would consider maximum, leaving very little room for clearance inside the magazine. Usually, if the bullet is jamming in the rifling, the bolt will still close because the case gets forced forward buy the action spring/BCG. Of course, this depends on how deep the bullet is engraving the rifling. Firing a rifle with the bullets jammed this hard will spike pressure! Quoted: Quoted: What the heck is going on? It won’t Chamber from a mag, nor will it chamber with a single feed. https://i.imgur.com/SJrzkVH.jpeg Factory 6mm ARC Hornady ammo (3 different boxes, all the same lot) https://i.imgur.com/cnqnmhO.jpeg I removed 4 different projectiles from cartridges by using the charging handle. https://i.imgur.com/SmGlzXK.jpeg Aero upper Griffin side pocket BC, handguard, and SNACH Charging handle. Lilja barrel supposedly headspaced to the Maxim bolt in the BCG. LMT MARSL lower LaRue MBT 1x 15 round Duramag 6.5G blue follower 1x 15 rd ASC 6ARC Red follower Allegedly, the builder test fired the upper WITH THE SAME 103gr ELDX AMMO (different lots, I assume) and got great groups (I don’t want to throw him under the bus yet, waiting on his reply to my text). Any suggestions? Should I try a lighter buffer so there is more forward force? A different spring? It has a standard carbine spring. It’s a known “good” lower in that I had a 300 BLK upper on it before and had zero issues. Should I try a “normal” BCG with the Maxim bolt? Measure the OAL" of the loaded rounds. 2.250" is what I would consider maximum, leaving very little room for clearance inside the magazine. Usually, if the bullet is jamming in the rifling, the bolt will still close because the case gets forced forward buy the action spring/BCG. Of course, this depends on how deep the bullet is engraving the rifling. Firing a rifle with the bullets jammed this hard will spike pressure! I’ll try to find my micrometer or go to harbor freight and snag a cheapo. All my reloading stuff is still packed away as I don’t have a shop set up yet. Eyeball test in a 6ARC mag. says it’s not at maximum OAL. 
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Quoted: I see what looks like a band around the bullet about a 1/16" above the case mouth. Normally if it's just hitting the rifling lands, it doesn't look like that. I pulled the SAAMI reamer print and you should have about .090" of lead/free-bore in front of the case mouth where there should be no rifling with a diameter of .2435. So that's .0005 over projectile diameter which is normal. Then in front of that, you have the lead, which extends another .212" where the rifling is tapered to full engagement. When a machine operator chambers a barrel, the lead/throat dimensions are set by the chamber reamer, it's not normally done in multiple operations for production barrels. You punch the reamer in, and it cuts the chamber, shoulder, neck, throat and lead all in one. Then it is gauged for head space, but it is never gauged for correct lead/throat confirmation. The operator is relying on the reamer to be correct for that. Hopefully, Lilja is not using a PTG chamber reamer. If so, there is no telling what the chamber/lead/throat is actually cut to. Tony By God I hope you continue to stick around, Tony. Wealth of info and willing to share. 
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Quoted: By God I hope you continue to stick around, Tony. Wealth of info and willing to share. Quoted: Quoted: I see what looks like a band around the bullet about a 1/16" above the case mouth. Normally if it's just hitting the rifling lands, it doesn't look like that. I pulled the SAAMI reamer print and you should have about .090" of lead/free-bore in front of the case mouth where there should be no rifling with a diameter of .2435. So that's .0005 over projectile diameter which is normal. Then in front of that, you have the lead, which extends another .212" where the rifling is tapered to full engagement. When a machine operator chambers a barrel, the lead/throat dimensions are set by the chamber reamer, it's not normally done in multiple operations for production barrels. You punch the reamer in, and it cuts the chamber, shoulder, neck, throat and lead all in one. Then it is gauged for head space, but it is never gauged for correct lead/throat confirmation. The operator is relying on the reamer to be correct for that. Hopefully, Lilja is not using a PTG chamber reamer. If so, there is no telling what the chamber/lead/throat is actually cut to. Tony By God I hope you continue to stick around, Tony. Wealth of info and willing to share. +1 |
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Lilja cuts their chambers tight and close to minimum. I would be surprised if it is the fault of the barrel though as Lilja makes high quality barrels. Get some chamber gauges (go, no go, field) to check the chamber with your bolt. Get a Hornady bullet comparator to measure the bullet's jump to the lands. Measure the the ammo you are using in a gauge to check the shoulder and OAL. |
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Quoted: Lilja cuts their chambers tight and close to minimum. I would be surprised if it is the fault of the barrel though as Lilja makes high quality barrels. Get some chamber gauges (go, no go, field) to check the chamber with your bolt. Get a Hornady bullet comparator to measure the bullet's jump to the lands. Measure the the ammo you are using in a gauge to check the shoulder and OAL. The go no go chamber gauges are a great idea. Thanks. |
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Quoted: If a round won't fall into the chamber ('plunk' test), do not fire the rifle - it might blow up. If I didn't know better, I'd swear you have a 5.56 bore on that barrel. Supposedly it was test fired by the builder (and there is some carbon to back that idea up). ETA: it will NOT plunk |
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Quoted: The go no go chamber gauges are a great idea. Thanks. Quoted: Quoted: Lilja cuts their chambers tight and close to minimum. I would be surprised if it is the fault of the barrel though as Lilja makes high quality barrels. Get some chamber gauges (go, no go, field) to check the chamber with your bolt. Get a Hornady bullet comparator to measure the bullet's jump to the lands. Measure the the ammo you are using in a gauge to check the shoulder and OAL. The go no go chamber gauges are a great idea. Thanks. @magnum_99 Which of these should I buy? https://www.pacifictoolandgauge.com/6-mm-Advanced-Rifle-Cartridge-ARC-SAAMICIP-Headspace-Gauges_p_114381.html Saami Field and No Go? Thanks ETA: maybe I should use a different brand. 
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Quoted: Well? DONT LEAVE ME IN SUSPENSE, LARRY Quoted: Quoted: Either your cartridge is long or your chamber is short. While your barrel should be well made based on the price paid, I know which I’d put my money on. Well? DONT LEAVE ME IN SUSPENSE, LARRY I think you should buy exactly one more box of ELDMs to verify somehow the whole box didn’t conspire together to measure wrong. Then when that goes how it’ll go, you contact the vendor you won’t name that rhymes with SixSmegma and hope they feel like answering your email better than they did mine. I will say I’m now happy with my Grendel barrel of theirs. A past one, not so much, but this one yeah. It is gassed a little warm and has proven to be a little barrel torque sensitive, but I have gotten it down to be a reliably tight shooting and pleasant rifle that I am happy with. Hopefully yours ends up the same. Way. For the $400+ you spent, I’d sure hope it can at least chamber a bullet. My lemon just shot like ass, but at least it got a bullet down the barrel. I do wonder if they’re given the same attention to detail as a more traditionally sourced Lilja. I have trouble believing they’d put their name on lower quality stuff, but it happens in every industry so I shouldn’t put it past them. This is unsubstantiated conjecture of course. |
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Quoted: You should not buy anything. You should drop off the rifle and ammo at your “builder” and see what he says the problem is. Agree. The builder needs to stand behind their build and since they supplied the barrel and it’s almost surely barrel related, I wouldn’t want to touch it. This is their baby and it was paid for handsomely. Your job is simply to competently handle and shoot the thing as provided. When I build a rifle it’s on me to get it running. I don’t pay to have it done but if I did, it’s on them to get it running. Why would I pay for assembly just so I can disassemble and troubleshoot how to unfuck the assembly lol |
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Quoted: I think you should buy exactly one more box of ELDMs to verify somehow the whole box didn’t conspire together to measure wrong. Then when that goes how it’ll go, you contact the vendor you won’t name that rhymes with SixSmegma and hope they feel like answering your email better than they did mine. I will say I’m now happy with my Grendel barrel of theirs. A past one, not so much, but this one yeah. It is gassed a little warm and has proven to be a little barrel torque sensitive, but I have gotten it down to be a reliably tight shooting and pleasant rifle that I am happy with. Hopefully yours ends up the same. Way. For the $400+ you spent, I’d sure hope it can at least chamber a bullet. My lemon just shot like ass, but at least it got a bullet down the barrel. I do wonder if they’re given the same attention to detail as a more traditionally sourced Lilja. I have trouble believing they’d put their name on lower quality stuff, but it happens in every industry so I shouldn’t put it past them. This is unsubstantiated conjecture of course. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Either your cartridge is long or your chamber is short. While your barrel should be well made based on the price paid, I know which I’d put my money on. Well? DONT LEAVE ME IN SUSPENSE, LARRY I think you should buy exactly one more box of ELDMs to verify somehow the whole box didn’t conspire together to measure wrong. Then when that goes how it’ll go, you contact the vendor you won’t name that rhymes with SixSmegma and hope they feel like answering your email better than they did mine. I will say I’m now happy with my Grendel barrel of theirs. A past one, not so much, but this one yeah. It is gassed a little warm and has proven to be a little barrel torque sensitive, but I have gotten it down to be a reliably tight shooting and pleasant rifle that I am happy with. Hopefully yours ends up the same. Way. For the $400+ you spent, I’d sure hope it can at least chamber a bullet. My lemon just shot like ass, but at least it got a bullet down the barrel. I do wonder if they’re given the same attention to detail as a more traditionally sourced Lilja. I have trouble believing they’d put their name on lower quality stuff, but it happens in every industry so I shouldn’t put it past them. This is unsubstantiated conjecture of course. AFAIK, it’s the only Lilja 6ARC builder available. If he doesn’t get back to me soonish, I’ll do a chargeback. I’d hate it, but I’d do it. |
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Quoted: AFAIK, it’s the only Lilja 6ARC builder available. If he doesn’t get back to me soonish, I’ll do a chargeback. I’d hate it, but I’d do it. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Either your cartridge is long or your chamber is short. While your barrel should be well made based on the price paid, I know which I’d put my money on. Well? DONT LEAVE ME IN SUSPENSE, LARRY I think you should buy exactly one more box of ELDMs to verify somehow the whole box didn’t conspire together to measure wrong. Then when that goes how it’ll go, you contact the vendor you won’t name that rhymes with SixSmegma and hope they feel like answering your email better than they did mine. I will say I’m now happy with my Grendel barrel of theirs. A past one, not so much, but this one yeah. It is gassed a little warm and has proven to be a little barrel torque sensitive, but I have gotten it down to be a reliably tight shooting and pleasant rifle that I am happy with. Hopefully yours ends up the same. Way. For the $400+ you spent, I’d sure hope it can at least chamber a bullet. My lemon just shot like ass, but at least it got a bullet down the barrel. I do wonder if they’re given the same attention to detail as a more traditionally sourced Lilja. I have trouble believing they’d put their name on lower quality stuff, but it happens in every industry so I shouldn’t put it past them. This is unsubstantiated conjecture of course. AFAIK, it’s the only Lilja 6ARC builder available. If he doesn’t get back to me soonish, I’ll do a chargeback. I’d hate it, but I’d do it. An Aero would have worked, for a while. A Shaw would have been better. That said, Hornady has gone to shit and as long as they are the only major 6Arc ammo source it’s a hand loaders cartridge. |
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Quoted: An Aero would have worked, for a while. A Shaw would have been better. That said, Hornady has gone to shit and as long as they are the only major 6Arc ammo source it’s a hand loaders cartridge. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Either your cartridge is long or your chamber is short. While your barrel should be well made based on the price paid, I know which I’d put my money on. Well? DONT LEAVE ME IN SUSPENSE, LARRY I think you should buy exactly one more box of ELDMs to verify somehow the whole box didn’t conspire together to measure wrong. Then when that goes how it’ll go, you contact the vendor you won’t name that rhymes with SixSmegma and hope they feel like answering your email better than they did mine. I will say I’m now happy with my Grendel barrel of theirs. A past one, not so much, but this one yeah. It is gassed a little warm and has proven to be a little barrel torque sensitive, but I have gotten it down to be a reliably tight shooting and pleasant rifle that I am happy with. Hopefully yours ends up the same. Way. For the $400+ you spent, I’d sure hope it can at least chamber a bullet. My lemon just shot like ass, but at least it got a bullet down the barrel. I do wonder if they’re given the same attention to detail as a more traditionally sourced Lilja. I have trouble believing they’d put their name on lower quality stuff, but it happens in every industry so I shouldn’t put it past them. This is unsubstantiated conjecture of course. AFAIK, it’s the only Lilja 6ARC builder available. If he doesn’t get back to me soonish, I’ll do a chargeback. I’d hate it, but I’d do it. An Aero would have worked, for a while. A Shaw would have been better. That said, Hornady has gone to shit and as long as they are the only major 6Arc ammo source it’s a hand loaders cartridge. I’m admit that while I’m quite the barrel snob, in my younger years I’ve owned a 12.5” BA Grendel barrel and was boringly consistent about staying <1.5 MOA. Given what such a barrel is for, it was a lot for the price. But now my 12.5 proof Grendel shoots better too though so there’s also that. |
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Quoted: You should not buy anything. You should drop off the rifle and ammo at your “builder” and see what he says the problem is. Kind of this. That gun has no two parts from the same manufacturer. It's on the builder to make this work, and something isnt right. |
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Quoted: AFAIK, it’s the only Lilja 6ARC builder available. If he doesn’t get back to me soonish, I’ll do a chargeback. I’d hate it, but I’d do it. Have you spoken directly to the builder? I would pick up the phone and have a conversation with him before starting a charge back. How long has it been since you texted him? It is the weekend. I’ve had to ship a couple firearms back to have issues taken care of. This may not be a quick fix. I would definitely give them a chance to make it right before getting before going nuclear. |
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Quoted: Have you spoken directly to the builder? I would pick up the phone and have a conversation with him before starting a charge back. How long has it been since you texted him? It is the weekend. I’ve had to ship a couple firearms back to have issues taken care of. This may not be a quick fix. I would definitely give them a chance to make it right before getting before going nuclear. Quoted: Quoted: AFAIK, it’s the only Lilja 6ARC builder available. If he doesn’t get back to me soonish, I’ll do a chargeback. I’d hate it, but I’d do it. Have you spoken directly to the builder? I would pick up the phone and have a conversation with him before starting a charge back. How long has it been since you texted him? It is the weekend. I’ve had to ship a couple firearms back to have issues taken care of. This may not be a quick fix. I would definitely give them a chance to make it right before getting before going nuclear. A few points. A. I just figured this out yesterday and texted him. It is the weekend. B. He wasn’t easy to get ahold of during the build process and others have had the same or worse experience. C. I actually received the upper in early June, but due to work, previous plans, and weather I wasn’t able to take it to the range until yesterday. I’ll be reaching out to my CC company tomorrow to check time frame and to Curt to try to get ahold of him. Heck, I’m likely to reach out to Lilja as well as I’m not sure who cut the chamber (builder or barrel maker). |
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Quoted: An Aero would have worked, for a while. A Shaw would have been better. That said, Hornady has gone to shit and as long as they are the only major 6Arc ammo source it’s a hand loaders cartridge. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Either your cartridge is long or your chamber is short. While your barrel should be well made based on the price paid, I know which I’d put my money on. Well? DONT LEAVE ME IN SUSPENSE, LARRY I think you should buy exactly one more box of ELDMs to verify somehow the whole box didn’t conspire together to measure wrong. Then when that goes how it’ll go, you contact the vendor you won’t name that rhymes with SixSmegma and hope they feel like answering your email better than they did mine. I will say I’m now happy with my Grendel barrel of theirs. A past one, not so much, but this one yeah. It is gassed a little warm and has proven to be a little barrel torque sensitive, but I have gotten it down to be a reliably tight shooting and pleasant rifle that I am happy with. Hopefully yours ends up the same. Way. For the $400+ you spent, I’d sure hope it can at least chamber a bullet. My lemon just shot like ass, but at least it got a bullet down the barrel. I do wonder if they’re given the same attention to detail as a more traditionally sourced Lilja. I have trouble believing they’d put their name on lower quality stuff, but it happens in every industry so I shouldn’t put it past them. This is unsubstantiated conjecture of course. AFAIK, it’s the only Lilja 6ARC builder available. If he doesn’t get back to me soonish, I’ll do a chargeback. I’d hate it, but I’d do it. An Aero would have worked, for a while. A Shaw would have been better. That said, Hornady has gone to shit and as long as they are the only major 6Arc ammo source it’s a hand loaders cartridge. Shaw would have been 1/2 the price. I know nothing about their quality though. Quoted: I think I recognize that range. Orange County (Texas) Gun Club. |