[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Blood-chilling skinwalker stories (Page 4 of 21)
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I don't know for sure, but I think that if I were out in the boondocks and saw orange glowing eyes about six feet off the ground while getting a distinctly creeped out feeling at the same time, and I had my rifle with me, I think the words that would come out of my mouth would be "Whatever it is that has glowing orange eyes, you should leave NOW if those eyes aren't bulletproof because my next action will be to shoot them out." And damn it, I'm a good enough shot to do it. I wonder what a taxidermist would charge to mount a skinwalker or bigfoot? CJ |
What about thermal imaging (i.e. not just infrared)? Anyone got a spare Predator helmet laying around? There's gotta be at least one spectrum/tech we can catch 'em on. |
Pretty much the last of *those* taxidermists died out with the Pharoahs. |
I've always wondered that, seriously. If bigfoot actually is real and I shoot one some day, you better believe I'm going to haul his ass into the taxidermist. After, of course, I verify that I didn't just shoot a really hairy hobo with a glandular problem. |
In before someone extolls the virtues of birdshot. 
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Am I the only one who thought that this account sounded like the Winnie from SpaceBalls?
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Only if it leaves skidmarks in space. |
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Hey Beer Slayer... I spend a little time in Alabama every year [family connections]... I don't believe in paranormal stuff but I'm certainly not opposed to investigating it... And no one ever accused me of not being curious. If you ever want another rifleman to back you up on a patrol for this thing, let me know in an IM, I might be able to arrange to trip there. Besides I'm a small part Cherokee and Creek [a little Comanche too] so even if there's something freaky there it shouldn't get too pissed at me anyway. Twenty million candlepower searchlights are fun  .
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That's strange. Most scientists, even skeptical ones, would say that aliens are more likely than "spiritual" life. |
Lets just agree to disagree, I am not looking to start shit.
I was raised in VA and several of my friends have seen what you're talking about. One guy was in his car on a way back road in Southeastern VA. They nick named it the beast because the guys were all die hard Christians. The story they gave me sounds just like yours. Glowing eyes and never spotted hit, but sounded like a fucking freight train moving through the woods. They also said the thing could jump like a bitch. |
How many scientists have you asked? 
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My take: Faeries/lepricons/trolls/elves/any-other-little-green-creature with magical powers that come in the middle of the night for you or your children : aliens taking bio samples. Bigfoot/saskwatch/yeti: most likely a very, very rare and intelligent primate. There is a very respected bio prof at University of Oregon that has very good biological evidence. He is also too respected in his field for his collegues to criticise him, so they say nothing. Mystery carcass piles: could be either Bigfoot or aliens. There are many reports of alien spacecraft taking animals up to disect them and dropping them when they are through, hence the broken bones, lack of trail, etc. Cattle have even been found upside down with their horns impaled into the ground - they've been dropped. Skinwalkers/shadow people/shapeshifters/glowing eyes : could be some sort of observation system. You are most likely seeing, or more properly stated, *not seeing* what you should see. I.E., light is being distorted in the space before you. The observer has distrorted space so that light reflecting off of you is travelling through a wormhole to be received by them, some distance away. Since light is not reflecting off of it, a lack of light (shadow /dark blob) is apparent. The occasional "glowing eyes" maybe a binocular vision aspect of this (so they can range you). They emit light to keep the energy balance through the wormhole (conservation of energy). According to guys like Bob Lazar (the guy who claims to have worked on alien spacecraft for the U.S. government) the military was actively working on such a project ("Project Looking Glass"). Think of it as the ultimate spy system. Flashlights and night vision would have no effect as there is no object to reflect light off of. All of the above is completely plausible scientifically. To be clear, we may not know *how* to do it (engineering) but we know that it is not impossible due to known scientific principles. Another good example would be fusion. Scientists *know* it can be done, but engineers haven't figured out *how* to do it yet. |
LOL! They bitch about using the search function there too! No question, there are several Arfcommers in that thread! |
Well, I have read a NUMBER of works from several, mostly skeptics...and I don't blame them for being skeptics, either. HOWEVER: I have two very close friends who actually worked for J. Allen Hynek during the 60s and 70s. They did lot's of field investigation in Australia for the most part. They also did a bit of investigating on the Travis Walton incident ( verdict: T. Walton and Co. = lying crackpot ) in the seventies....essentially coming out of "retirement" for that one case. One of them is an occasional poster on this site.  Both of them have come to the conclusion that there are NO space aliens abducting folks OR experimenting on cattle in the dead of night. There is good reason for it....because there AREN'T hyper advanced creatures from the planet "Flappy" doing silly experiments that are less advanced in method than a high school biology lesson. |
Were I an advanced alien being, and I wanted to study human biological reactions, I would merely need to do two things. 1. Buy a team membership to review responses to BOTD threads; and 2. Start AR15 v. Mini14 or 9mm v. 45ACP threads. |
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Not a great story, but I had something strange happen to me once. About 8 miles west of a little town called Edwards, here in Mississippi, is a place where my dad and I used to fish. The Big Black river runs past the old Hwy 80 there, and there is an old railroad tressell over the river. We used to set out trout lines (my dad called them trot-lines) and spend the night there checking the lines occasionally. Its a spooky place to begin with, especially at night. The old tressell is a massive arched bridge that is still in use, but looks very old. The remains of an even older bridge can be seen just downstream. I've seen more snakes in that river than anywhere I've fished. Anyway, my brother and a mutual friend and I were drinking one night many years ago when I was young and crazy (I no longer drink - or especially drink and drive) and we had nothing to do and decided to ride out to the tressell. It was probably getting close to midnight as we got to the river. There was a full moon and after our eyes adjusted to the dark, we could at least see a little bit. We climbed up the tressell, which is about 50 feet up, and walked out over the river. There was noone else there, and the nearest house was about a mile back down the gravel road. I forget what I was doing when my friend said "what was that?". I noticed he was serious, which was unlike him, so I started looking in the direction he was. He was looking at the river. Just as I was wondering what he was looking at ..... SPLASH!! something like a large rock hit the water. For a moment I just knew I was being screwed with, and that it was a setup, and I waited for the laughing, but my brother and friend were just staring at the river same as me. From our position over the river, the moon was reflected directly in the water. Just as I had my attention focused on the reflection of the moon, SPLASH another LARGE rock hit the water breaking the reflection. Now I knew my friends weren't joking with me as we were all together and it wasn't one of us throwing the rocks. We were too far away and it was a big rock hitting the water. I now became painfully aware that I was unarmed. All of us were thouroghly familiar with, and owned, guns, but none of us had brought anything but damned pocket knives. I cursed myself for not bringing my 38super, and searched the river banks intently but could see only dim undergrowth. I thought surely someone was messing with us, but whoever it was must have been able to navigate the snakey river bank in complete darkness, and was hiding in the undergrowth somewhere. The thought of someone crazy enough to do that had me in a bit of concern as well. I decided that I needed to get the hell out of there. We climbed back down the bank to the road, me with my knife out, and got back to the car. I turned to shine the headlights around the far river bank, but we never saw a thing, and left. We have talked it a few times since, and we feel that some hillbilly must have been screwing with us, but it must have been a fearless damned hillbilly to be on that river at night with no light. I knew about 3 miles of that river like the back of my hand, and I would have had trouble doing whatever "it" did there at night. sorry it wasn't better.... over and out.... |
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Those interested should read the Carlos Castenada books. "Alternate Reality" is a good one, but there are many in the series. Basically, he goes to Arizona/Mexico to learn from a "Medicine Man", to show that there isn't all that much to it. He learns too much. It is a bit of a self-examination/enlightening type read rather than entertainment, a narrative. Good stuff. |
Just racking the action will be enough to make Bigfoot or a Skinwalker drop dead in fear. |
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Yeah, I have to question the methods of beings who have conquered the non-trivial challenge of crossing interstellar space, possess spacecraft capable of out-performing all our military fighters and radar, and can travel around the world virtually undetected, only to spend most of their time stomping wheat fields, coring out cow anus', and frightening hillbillys. They've got to be the alien equivelent of drunken frat boys, because seriously- what kind of scientist grabs somebody else's property and tortures an animal to death by cutting off its genitals, anus, an eye, an ear, udders (if applicable) and then just drops it out of the sky to hit the ground? What the fuck is that supposed to accomplish? ETA: I got it. "Okay El-zar, the antigravity beam is ready. Call it." "Heads." moooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo *THUD* "Tails." "Fuck! Best two outta three?" |
just goes to prove REDNECKS live all over the universe
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Let's just hope there's no equivelent to libtards out there. |
You must have missed the part about, "coring out cow anus."
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I am sorry to say that while Carlos Castanedo's books are "interesting", they are largely regarded as fiction. http://www.skepdic.com/castaneda.html There hasn't been any "smoking gun" type "outing" of fraud because his works are written as unverifiable personal narrative, which can be neither proven nor disproven. I have read just about all of his works in fact, trying to sift whatever facts there may be from the fiction, and exactly What is this guy saying???  . I can however say that his work has little to support it from the traditions of the Native American Church. His later works concentrate on *ahem* adventures in the interior of Mexico with brujeria of mesoamerican rather than Native American cultures. Can I 100% "prove" he is a total fraud? No. Do I steer people away from swallowing his works as authentic? Absolutely. Castaneda is man of white hispanic South American heritage who wrote his first book as an anthroplogy student, thus his stories have the "feel" of indigenoud traditions from various sources. I first read one of his books while a college kid myself, and it immediately struck me as "wrong" when Don Juan, the putative shaman, sewed shut the lips of lizards. Such deliberate cruelty to animals (as compared to killing them cleanly for food) is quite outside of mainstream Native beliefs. Since the beginning of time, Native folks have reserved cruelty for human foes, and respected animals. |
Here's another gem I found on that website:
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Just because you cannot think of a reason does not mean that there isn't one. Question: why would anyone want to go 7 miles to the floor of the ocean, capture a rare jellyfish, then go into the deepest jungles of Africa and capture a particular type of monkey, and then cross the two? Answer: I have no idea, but we (humans) have done it. If we have done such bizarre experiments one simply cannot predict why aliens would want to do relatively mundane biopsies of cattle. |
What ARE you talking about? Crossing a jelly fish and a monkey? And if I go around vandalizing your house and burn patterns into your lawn with lime, are you going to assume that I did so for some enlightened, ulterior purpose that you're just too stupid to comprehend, or that I'm just an asshole? If aliens do exist, we need to boost our space program so we can fly to their planets and kick their asses for being the dicks of outer space.
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Dammit man, that was implied, implied I tells ya. No need to go around correcting. That's like explaining a joke. Anyway, off to go back working on my new bicycle seat trick. |
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I am merely pointing out that we humans have done some very bizarre scientific experiments ourselves. The monkey-jellyfish hybrid was one such experiment. I cited this experiment as an existance proof that weird experiments are indeed done. If we do such weird experiments, simply taking the organs of a few cows is tame by comparison. This defeats your "aliens wouldn't do such a silly thing" arguement.
You are reading way too much into what I said. I said that conducting weird experiments is certainly plausible because we have conducted weird experiments. I did not say that the aliens (if they exist) are "enlightened" or that we are "stupid". As for you being an asshole; that question is not up for debate. 
I think you would be surprised to hear that I agree with you on this one. |
I'm gonna need something other than your say-so to buy the monkey-jellyfish line. |
The Jellymonkey! Or monkeyfish? But that sure as hell doesn't mean that aliens are fucking with wheat fields or exsanguinating cows. 
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I have a hard time taking any article seriously when it is written by an author who can't use a spellcheck. |
That was you? Fucker. I just put down weed-n-feed. |
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Okay, talked to my Hopi buddy tongiht for a few minutes and got a bit of more "direct" info. Here's the deal: Skinwalkers are, by definition SPECIFICALLY WITCHES OR BLACK MAGICIANS. They have various abilities including the ability to appear or disappear, run like the wind, shape shift, cast spells, etc. They are regarded as EXTREMELY dangerous people. Most importantly, they are NOT regarded as Medicine men...in fact it is rather offensive to relate the two. Medicine men are healing practicioners and use various methods for the purposes of healing from natural medicine to spiritual medicine. Though medicine men CAN be very powerful and can also perform feats of magic, their purpose is for the good of the members of the tribe or the person they are healing. I have a great medicine man story that D. is going to relate to me in more detail tomorrow. I heard a bit of it tonight but the work kicked in and we got busy with that....so I hope to be able to relate the story tomorrow. It's pretty cool.... NO SKITTLES WERE HARMED DURING THE TELLING OF THIS TALE. |
Thunderbirds ROCK!!!! Don't know if anyone has seen one lately but I have heard stories all the way up into the 1970s!!!! |
Thank you. You just summed up my impression of them. |
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Thanks, DesertMoon. That confirms that skinwalkers of the western tribes are always evil whereas shapeshifters of the eastern peoples can be good or bad, like a talent that can be used in any way. Below is a copper piece from the Spiro Mound in Eastern Oklahoma. The interesting thing is that the copper would have been traded all the way from the Great Lakes region, proving that there were long distance trade routes all over the place in ancient times. 
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I dunno...they don't seem wierd at all to me. In fact, they seem VERY sophisticated. Quite to the point, most Native American tribes were much more sophisticated than most folks were willing to admit. |