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7/8/2006 5:36:50 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
the gun ain't for bigfoot. it's for me just before he sticks it in my ass.




Exactly, 'cause I can outrun you, especially after I gave you a .380 to the kneecap.

SG
7/8/2006 5:38:34 PM EDT
[#2]

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the gun ain't for bigfoot. it's for me just before he sticks it in my ass.




I wouldn't do that... I have to follow you to get my ass back out of the woods.

Let's take Desertmoon... I'll use him as Bigfoot bait.


I can just see me now....Pippi Longstocking costume, a dog whistle and a nice bit of schnitzel.......

"Yoooohoooooo......ohhhhh Saaaasquaaatch!!!!"









You sir, Owe me a new keyboard...mine is now covered in beer!
7/8/2006 5:43:21 PM EDT
[#3]
There are several Caddo Indian burial mounds on the back 40 of the family farm. Same weird cold there and is quiet there. No birds nest in that area. Have seen the 'eyes' before at night but were white/green.

wganz

7/8/2006 5:47:00 PM EDT
[#4]
Skinwalking? Sounds like my personal holy grail. I just need to figure out who to talk to and learn from I guess.

OP: I'll shoot some skittles out of my ass just for you.
7/8/2006 5:50:28 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Skinwalking? Sounds like my personal holy grail. I just need to figure out who to talk to and learn from I guess.

OP: I'll shoot some skittles out of my ass just for you.


That what ya feed them gerbils?


7/8/2006 5:51:24 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Skinwalking? Sounds like my personal holy grail. I just need to figure out who to talk to and learn from I guess.

OP: I'll shoot some skittles out of my ass just for you.


That what ya feed them gerbils?




Oh Hell, this thread just keeps on getting better...



SG
7/8/2006 5:51:33 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Skinwalking? Sounds like my personal holy grail. I just need to figure out who to talk to and learn from I guess.

OP: I'll shoot some skittles out of my ass just for you.


That what ya feed them gerbils?




Ahh, another practicioner, eh?
7/8/2006 6:00:09 PM EDT
[#8]
DO you know what indian tribe was on the land have?
7/8/2006 6:03:55 PM EDT
[#9]
Most frightening encounter you've read/heard, Most frightening encounter?


One of my clients and pretty good friends has a customer whose father in law is alleged to have been reduced to a neurotic child by a terrifying SQ encounter. I have spoken to the son in law once, but "Pop" is extremely resistant to talk to anyone outside his family. I know who Pop is because he is very accomplished in a mechanical field that I'm very interested in, but I've never dealt with him. His overall reputation as a person is stellar on a bad day.

Pop loved to hunt. To avoid divorce, when he neared early retirement he and wife got some land in Smith County, TX so he could hunt often without all the disruption of taking expeditions all over the place. That satisfied wifey and he hoped to retire in peace.

Last November he was in his very nice north-facing custom deer stand on his land about 1,500 feet from the house when he heard steps coming from the south. Once the steps got about 50' away he barked out a trespassing warning to leave and never come back. He could not see behind him because the stand is mounted on a very large tree.

The steps stopped, then in 4 quick strides the creature appeared just to the side of the tree, slightly forward of it, and spun around and looked right at him. Pop started screaming and this upset the creature, which screamed too and approached the stand and JUMPED UP, trying to reach him or grab the bottom of the stand (15' up to bottom) and pull the whole thing down.

Once he got his wits a little assembled, he went on the defensive and leaned up to donate a .270 round to the animal, but he was so scared that he dropped his gun over the rail, which threw him into a panic. The SQ had already touched the bottom of the stand with two jumps and he felt his life was in extreme danger.

Survival mode kicked in hard and he went for the only weapon he could think of - cans of iced tea! Right as he leaned down to open the cooler and snatch a can of tea, the SQ backed up a few steps and Pop believed the SQ was about to get a running start so it could jump higher and get him out of the tree (I think it's possible that it wanted to keep Pop in sight - the front of the stand was solid and covered with brush for camo - he bent down to open the cooler and the SQ backed up to keep him in view - just a theory).

Pop sprang up and whaled a can of tea as hard as he could at the SQ and nailed it square in the upper face, which made it double over and groan loudly, hands over face. It seemed dizzy and surprised. Then Pop poured the ice and water from the cooler on it, and that wigged it out in grand fashion. Just as he followed by throwing the cooler at it (missed) too, it tore off to a nearby treeline by the creek and watched him through a crook in a tree, rocking side-to-side.

Right then Pop was just about bowled over by the realization that he had his Colt 1911 with him in his backpack. He dug the gun out of the bottom of the bag, aimed at the creature's head and fired. Nothing happened - he didn't have one up the snout. So he then racked the slide and right then the thing took off into the brush to the north and crossed the creek shortly after being out of site. He got off one shot and is certain he missed by a wide margin.

Pop waited a short while and dismounted the stand to return home. He was white as a sheet and crying when he got there, and it was the first time in 32 years his wife had seen him cry, or even noticeably scared. Since then he will not hunt, will not penetrate the treeline around the house, and will not even leave the patio after sunset.

Here's the kicker - a couple of weeks ago Pop's truck broke down on the thickly wooded private dirt road leading from the FM to the house. He was stranded in the middle of a sunny afternoon about 700 feet from the house. Instead of walking home, he shut himself in the truck and kept calling people on his cell phone until he found someone to come and get him for the 20 second car ride to the house!

His son in law received a hysterical voice mail message of Pop, sobbing, begging for him to come help, so the guy had to drive all the way from Nacadoches to give a hardened combat veteran and lifelong adventurous outdoorsman a very short ride from the front yard to the front door. And Pop had a .44 magnum Colt Python on him, which he now always has with him.

There were also some items missing from the site, but I've not gotten enough of a detailed account of that yet. It's my understanding that the rifle and can of tea are unaccounted for, but I'll clear that up on the follow up contact that is to occur Monday (I badly hope). There have been some other curious incidents, but nothing like terror in the tree stand.

Hopefully I can gain access to the land. The family is urging him to at least talk to someone who knows about these animals. If I can gain an inroad, I'll be headed out there soon, since it's very close to home.


7/8/2006 6:19:36 PM EDT
[#10]
This is a pretty good read on Skinwalker Ranch. www.rense.com/general32/strange.htm
7/8/2006 6:44:57 PM EDT
[#11]

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This is a pretty good read on Skinwalker Ranch. www.rense.com/general32/strange.htm


The book I mentioned, "The Hunt For The Skinwalker" is all about that ranch.

Freaky damn place.
7/8/2006 6:47:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Before I met my wife, a good time for me back in college was to wander around the woods near campus at night and scare the bejesus out of the religious studies majors who went down to the nearby pond to build campfires and sing kum bay ya.  So I'm out one night and it's well into Autumn so there were dry leaves on the ground.  Also, the only thing I had with me at the time was a 7 inch, partly serated KBAR style knife.  So I'm walking down a trail in the dark when I hear the leaves behind me crunch...a crunch that sounds like something two legged would make.  So I took a couple of more steps and stopped and whatever was behind me did the same.  At that point I took off running down the trail.  Luckily I knew this trail very well, at the end of it there was a metal farm gate and a T intersection with a gravel road back into town.  So I hop the gate and jump into the tall grass on the opposite side of the gravel road and the whole time I could hear whatever was behind me running after me.  I jumped the gate, which thankfully whatever was behind me could not see in the dark and promptly crashed into.  Crouching in the tall grass, I quietly drew my knife and waited for the foot steps to get closer.  I thought for sure I was going to get raped and killed by some hillbilly, but I damn sure wasn't going to go without a fight.
Long story short, I could hear the footsteps moving around on the road, probably trying to figure out where I went, and finally walked off in the opposite direction.  I must have waited a good twenty minutes in the silence before very carefully and very quietly making my way back into town.  True story!  Now I pack a .45 everywhere I go!
7/8/2006 6:50:08 PM EDT
[#13]




I DO wish I had some stories to contribute.  Several people in my family do, all taken from events that happened in our "ancestral homeland" of northern Alabama, but I'm not one of them.


CJ

7/8/2006 6:53:52 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Most frightening encounter you've read/heard, Most frightening encounter?


One of my clients and pretty good friends has a customer whose father in law is alleged to have been reduced to a neurotic child by a terrifying SQ encounter. I have spoken to the son in law once, but "Pop" is extremely resistant to talk to anyone outside his family. I know who Pop is because he is very accomplished in a mechanical field that I'm very interested in, but I've never dealt with him. His overall reputation as a person is stellar on a bad day.

Pop loved to hunt. To avoid divorce, when he neared early retirement he and wife got some land in Smith County, TX so he could hunt often without all the disruption of taking expeditions all over the place. That satisfied wifey and he hoped to retire in peace.

Last November he was in his very nice north-facing custom deer stand on his land about 1,500 feet from the house when he heard steps coming from the south. Once the steps got about 50' away he barked out a trespassing warning to leave and never come back. He could not see behind him because the stand is mounted on a very large tree.

The steps stopped, then in 4 quick strides the creature appeared just to the side of the tree, slightly forward of it, and spun around and looked right at him. Pop started screaming and this upset the creature, which screamed too and approached the stand and JUMPED UP, trying to reach him or grab the bottom of the stand (15' up to bottom) and pull the whole thing down.

Once he got his wits a little assembled, he went on the defensive and leaned up to donate a .270 round to the animal, but he was so scared that he dropped his gun over the rail, which threw him into a panic. The SQ had already touched the bottom of the stand with two jumps and he felt his life was in extreme danger.

Survival mode kicked in hard and he went for the only weapon he could think of - cans of iced tea! Right as he leaned down to open the cooler and snatch a can of tea, the SQ backed up a few steps and Pop believed the SQ was about to get a running start so it could jump higher and get him out of the tree (I think it's possible that it wanted to keep Pop in sight - the front of the stand was solid and covered with brush for camo - he bent down to open the cooler and the SQ backed up to keep him in view - just a theory).

Pop sprang up and whaled a can of tea as hard as he could at the SQ and nailed it square in the upper face, which made it double over and groan loudly, hands over face. It seemed dizzy and surprised. Then Pop poured the ice and water from the cooler on it, and that wigged it out in grand fashion. Just as he followed by throwing the cooler at it (missed) too, it tore off to a nearby treeline by the creek and watched him through a crook in a tree, rocking side-to-side.

Right then Pop was just about bowled over by the realization that he had his Colt 1911 with him in his backpack. He dug the gun out of the bottom of the bag, aimed at the creature's head and fired. Nothing happened - he didn't have one up the snout. So he then racked the slide and right then the thing took off into the brush to the north and crossed the creek shortly after being out of site. He got off one shot and is certain he missed by a wide margin.

Pop waited a short while and dismounted the stand to return home. He was white as a sheet and crying when he got there, and it was the first time in 32 years his wife had seen him cry, or even noticeably scared. Since then he will not hunt, will not penetrate the treeline around the house, and will not even leave the patio after sunset.

Here's the kicker - a couple of weeks ago Pop's truck broke down on the thickly wooded private dirt road leading from the FM to the house. He was stranded in the middle of a sunny afternoon about 700 feet from the house. Instead of walking home, he shut himself in the truck and kept calling people on his cell phone until he found someone to come and get him for the 20 second car ride to the house!

His son in law received a hysterical voice mail message of Pop, sobbing, begging for him to come help, so the guy had to drive all the way from Nacadoches to give a hardened combat veteran and lifelong adventurous outdoorsman a very short ride from the front yard to the front door. And Pop had a .44 magnum Colt Python on him, which he now always has with him.

There were also some items missing from the site, but I've not gotten enough of a detailed account of that yet. It's my understanding that the rifle and can of tea are unaccounted for, but I'll clear that up on the follow up contact that is to occur Monday (I badly hope). There have been some other curious incidents, but nothing like terror in the tree stand.

Hopefully I can gain access to the land. The family is urging him to at least talk to someone who knows about these animals. If I can gain an inroad, I'll be headed out there soon, since it's very close to home.




Wow, he should sell that 44mag Python for eleventy billion dollars.
7/8/2006 6:58:46 PM EDT
[#15]

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Skinwalking? Sounds like my personal holy grail. I just need to figure out who to talk to and learn from I guess.

OP: I'll shoot some skittles out of my ass just for you.


It's not for me, it's for my idiot friends who don't take skinwalkers seriously. I brought up skinwalkers as a related topic to the "black dog" that we just avoided running over on a trip to some 'haunted' railroad tracks.

Yeah, cheerful night.


They wouldn't take it seriously since I didn't really have anything creepy to say about 'em, just "not something to screw around with". So I got to spend the next three hours hearing stories about old indian men who would show up, deliver cryptic messages in an unknown language, then morph into a wolf or something and run off with a magical stream of skittles shooting out their butts.

It's amusing, but seriously- I want to strike the fear of God- or more accurately, skinwalkers- into these guys and see how many jokes they crack then.
7/8/2006 7:01:31 PM EDT
[#16]
Read this post on that bigfoot forum here That has to be an arfcommer lol........
7/8/2006 7:14:20 PM EDT
[#17]

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Read this post on that bigfoot forum here That has to be an arfcommer lol........


I dunno... the "you want something simple and rugged; not a 1911" comment seemed too stupid even for Arfcom.
7/8/2006 7:20:04 PM EDT
[#18]

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Read this post on that bigfoot forum here That has to be an arfcommer lol........


I dunno... the "you want something simple and rugged; not a 1911" comment seemed too stupid even for Arfcom.


Yeah but when I read the If TSHTF with Bigfoot, will Wolf Ammo hurt AR?
I
7/8/2006 7:29:07 PM EDT
[#19]
Beer slayer do you have pictures of the burial site?
7/8/2006 7:39:52 PM EDT
[#20]
Does anyone know what a Hell hound or hound of Hell is?

There are areas on my family's farm I simply won't go at night.  I'm reluctant to go to those places during the day for that matter.






And before anybody jokes, when you've seen or heard one of those things you WILL be afraid of the dark.
7/8/2006 7:41:26 PM EDT
[#21]
Well, I do believe there are paranormal things but I wouln't be inclined to indulge in this.  Anyone ever killed or hurt by a phantom or spirit?  Not that they don't exist but I don't think they could hurt you..
7/8/2006 8:04:10 PM EDT
[#22]

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Skinwalking? Sounds like my personal holy grail. I just need to figure out who to talk to and learn from I guess.

OP: I'll shoot some skittles out of my ass just for you.


It's not for me, it's for my idiot friends who don't take skinwalkers seriously. I brought up skinwalkers as a related topic to the "black dog" that we just avoided running over on a trip to some 'haunted' railroad tracks.

Yeah, cheerful night.


They wouldn't take it seriously since I didn't really have anything creepy to say about 'em, just "not something to screw around with". So I got to spend the next three hours hearing stories about old indian men who would show up, deliver cryptic messages in an unknown language, then morph into a wolf or something and run off with a magical stream of skittles shooting out their butts.

It's amusing, but seriously- I want to strike the fear of God- or more accurately, skinwalkers- into these guys and see how many jokes they crack then.


Skinwalkers, from what I understand, are pure evil.  To become one, you have to do the equivalent of selling your soul to the devil.  Its not worth it, in my opinion.
7/8/2006 8:19:37 PM EDT
[#23]
I once saw Lucius Clay in Booger Woods.  

And I couldn't believe it

There are somthings in this world you just can't explain.
7/8/2006 8:26:18 PM EDT
[#24]

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I once saw Lucius Clay in Booger Woods.  

And I couldn't believe it

There are somthings in this world you just can't explain.


I used to live near Parvis Creek. We used to tease an old man in Booger Woods.

Creepy guy, he never did do a lot of harm in the world but he never did do no good.
7/8/2006 8:46:08 PM EDT
[#25]

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i have no idea what it was but they were definantly eye refelections i and other saw. It's either VERY good at hiding in no cover or can vanish at will.


Invisibile or not, 12GA 00 Buck will make its day turn south real quick.
7/8/2006 8:48:54 PM EDT
[#26]

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Skinwalking? Sounds like my personal holy grail. I just need to figure out who to talk to and learn from I guess.

OP: I'll shoot some skittles out of my ass just for you.


It's not for me, it's for my idiot friends who don't take skinwalkers seriously. I brought up skinwalkers as a related topic to the "black dog" that we just avoided running over on a trip to some 'haunted' railroad tracks.

Yeah, cheerful night.


They wouldn't take it seriously since I didn't really have anything creepy to say about 'em, just "not something to screw around with". So I got to spend the next three hours hearing stories about old indian men who would show up, deliver cryptic messages in an unknown language, then morph into a wolf or something and run off with a magical stream of skittles shooting out their butts.

It's amusing, but seriously- I want to strike the fear of God- or more accurately, skinwalkers- into these guys and see how many jokes they crack then.


Skinwalkers, from what I understand, are pure evil.  To become one, you have to do the equivalent of selling your soul to the devil.  Its not worth it, in my opinion.


From what I understand, murdering a close relative is usually a requirement for becoming a skinwalker shaman.
7/8/2006 8:58:03 PM EDT
[#27]

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As he described what he saw, what good would any firearm do? Maybe if you had Chuck Norris I could understand...but a gun?


Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there.
7/8/2006 9:00:27 PM EDT
[#28]
hear ya go...FELLAS...

my great grandmother ( who some have read about on previous posts.) was a half breed cherokee born in indian territory around Gowan Oklahoma. her mother was a cherokee medicine woman.

my "Nana" was taken from her family along with her sisters to a school in Kansas to keep her away from her family and to "civilize her" for the good of amerika.

she was a devout Baptist but she was very adamant that we never deal with the "Black Magic" that some medicine men and women practice. i am aware of of several practioners of this in 4 tribes rigth off the bat.

Cherokee, Choctaw, Creek and Delaware.

my Nana told me a story about a man who had killed another man back in the early days of Oklahoma. when the dog soldiers went to arrest him, they found no one at his homestead. on the way back to town a short distance down the road from the homestead a grey wolf came out of the woods and walked beside the dog soldiers all the way back to town.

this is quite odd..since the horses and mules that the dog soldiers were riding, DID NOT SPOOK.. and were quite calm..

when the dog soldiers and the wolf got to town..the wolf stopped..and watched them walk away into town and the wolf started back to where it ame from.

several times later the dog soldiers and other law enforcement for the area went looking for this guy at his place..and every time..a grey wolf came into view..

they never found the guy????
but a wolf was always nearby after the incident..and later on a family member of the guy told several people that the man had paid a shaman to turn him into a wolf to avoid hanging or a firing squad.

here is something that i am familiar with..i have talked to several LEO's who worked the case and were involved and have talked to several OLD SCHOOL cherokees who lived in the area.

back when i was abotu 9 or 10..we had a incident in Locust Grove Oklahoma called the Girl Scout Murders, i am at work right now and cant google or yahoo a link ..
but you can find it yourself by typing in Oklahoma Girl Scout Murders.


i wanna say 4 girls were sexually assaulted and murdered on a camp out at a girl scout camp in Locust grove.

a local Cherokee by the name a Gene leroy Hart was implicated..( why??) he was an easy target for prosecution i guess. he has a criminal history and in the area.

word on the street was that when he was first thought to be a suspect he went to a black magic shaman and asked for help.

the shaman told him when they come for you to undress and go sit down at the the base of the large OAK TREE. while you are undressed and sitting..to hold up a oak leaf in front of your face and that he would be blessed invisable.

i have talked to 2 LEOS personally..who were involved in the first search for him as well as numerous other LEOs who had connections.

they all stated that every inch of his property was searched and he was not found there.

they finally caught GLH..when he was caught..he carried on a conversation with the LEOS about them walking right past him while he was sitting in his back yard..

he was adament that a LEO walked 3 feet from him he even knew the officer and named the officer to the other LEO..

GLH stated he was nude and holding a leaf in front of his face.


GLH was found no to have committed this crime but was sentenced to OSP ( in m hometown) for another crime. he died of a heart attack while jogging in the yard.

the girl scout killer (s) were never found. it is one of the darker cases in Oklahoma history.

i work with a full blood creek ( an older woman) and she is adamant that Black Magic Shamans can get anything done..and that it is BAD MOJO..

i actually was going to have someone hexed one time..haha and she wouldnt let me.





7/8/2006 9:01:58 PM EDT
[#29]

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As he described what he saw, what good would any firearm do? Maybe if you had Chuck Norris I could understand...but a gun?


Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there.


Or that a large caliber bullet won't fuck its day up good and proper.

Regardless, these might be a worthwhile investment before wandering into the woods again.
7/8/2006 9:10:19 PM EDT
[#30]

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Skinwalking? Sounds like my personal holy grail. I just need to figure out who to talk to and learn from I guess.

OP: I'll shoot some skittles out of my ass just for you.


It's not for me, it's for my idiot friends who don't take skinwalkers seriously. I brought up skinwalkers as a related topic to the "black dog" that we just avoided running over on a trip to some 'haunted' railroad tracks.

Yeah, cheerful night.


They wouldn't take it seriously since I didn't really have anything creepy to say about 'em, just "not something to screw around with". So I got to spend the next three hours hearing stories about old indian men who would show up, deliver cryptic messages in an unknown language, then morph into a wolf or something and run off with a magical stream of skittles shooting out their butts.

It's amusing, but seriously- I want to strike the fear of God- or more accurately, skinwalkers- into these guys and see how many jokes they crack then.


Skinwalkers, from what I understand, are pure evil.  To become one, you have to do the equivalent of selling your soul to the devil.  Its not worth it, in my opinion.


They're pure evil, but all they do is hang around until some tourist come by, then scare the bejeesus out of them? That sounds more like something a bored and irresponsible shaman would do.
7/8/2006 9:12:05 PM EDT
[#31]

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Skinwalking? Sounds like my personal holy grail. I just need to figure out who to talk to and learn from I guess.

OP: I'll shoot some skittles out of my ass just for you.


It's not for me, it's for my idiot friends who don't take skinwalkers seriously. I brought up skinwalkers as a related topic to the "black dog" that we just avoided running over on a trip to some 'haunted' railroad tracks.

Yeah, cheerful night.


They wouldn't take it seriously since I didn't really have anything creepy to say about 'em, just "not something to screw around with". So I got to spend the next three hours hearing stories about old indian men who would show up, deliver cryptic messages in an unknown language, then morph into a wolf or something and run off with a magical stream of skittles shooting out their butts.

It's amusing, but seriously- I want to strike the fear of God- or more accurately, skinwalkers- into these guys and see how many jokes they crack then.


Skinwalkers, from what I understand, are pure evil.  To become one, you have to do the equivalent of selling your soul to the devil.  Its not worth it, in my opinion.


They're pure evil, but all they do is hang around until some tourist come by, then scare the bejeesus out of them? That sounds more like something a bored and irresponsible shaman would do.


They do a lot more than that...

Do some reading on the subject.  Most Native Americans know all about them and won't talk about it.
7/8/2006 9:12:53 PM EDT
[#32]

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What the hell is a skinwalker?

Have you ever seen The Silence of the lambs?
7/8/2006 9:15:20 PM EDT
[#33]
I'll see if I can get some books on it (like the one suggested in this thread). Sounds pretty interesting, and like a good lead to something.
7/8/2006 9:16:15 PM EDT
[#34]

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SWEET! I love fairy tales!

Someone tell a story.


not really a story but some weird shit.

the house i am in is on old indian land. we have several burial mounds in the woods around this area. The old man across the street told me not to hike the woods at night. He had seen something back there years ago and refuses to go into the woods at all now. I pretty much blew that off as BS.

a couple of years ago we had some freinds over and were talking about it. Decided to load up and make a walk through the woods. As you round the curve to head into the woods the temp droped atleast 5 degrees on an otherwise warm night. we began to walk in the woods and a few meters in we heard something LARGE not far away. I figured it was a dog or a coyote but the fotsteps sounded heay.

we decided after a bit to leave and heard the "dog" following us out. one of my guys spotted 2 orange eyes about 6' high in the tree line just up the trail. we al lit up the trail with surefires and nothing was there. as we began to walk we heard footsteps in that exact area we just lit up.

what ever it was followed us all the way back to my house. I have a rtee line about 75meters from my back yard and we could here it moving down there. the line is only about 8' thick so ifigured i would walk down and see. Saw 2 orage eyes again about 30 feet from me as i approache the tree line. lit it up and found nothing.

as i left the tree line i could here whatever it was leaving the area.

not long after i took Scaryguy back there on a bigfoot hunt. He had a simialr experience that night. He won't go back there anymore either.

i have no idea what it was but they were definantly eye refelections i and other saw. It's either VERY good at hiding in no cover or can vanish at will.

Get a pair of NVGs and an AR15, bag yourself a skinwalker.
7/8/2006 9:17:59 PM EDT
[#35]
ya'll know that i and "white pit" from ARCOM do alot of Monkee investigations here in Ok, Ar, Tx and La..

Bigfoot, Monkees...sasquatch whatever you want to call them. i do not believe that they are shape shifters..

the ones we have seen..havent shifted..all evidence we have collected as been real stuff..

there are ALOT of these critters out there..more than anyone wants to deal with. there are 2 places i know of within Tulsa city limits that even my wife..has seen noticed the tale tell signs of.

there are 2 places on well known Ok lakes at extremely populated camp sites that i have no doubt that these critters walk right thru the camp sites on a routine basis scrounging for food in the trash cans.

i have posted some neat pics before..and am thinking about setting up a website for some of our photos..i have about 500 photos ..but i need a way to prevent people from copy and pasting or printing..

there is a ALOT of pure bullshit in most monkee lore..and alot of space cadets..out there..but there are quit a few legit..intelligent people who hit the woods..

we have them on out land and they are a quite interesting critters to say the least.
very imposing..we use our heads and try not to do anything that would cause problems..
there are 5 of us that use this area as our deer camp ( 3 in my family - myself, dad and brother and our family friend and his son who is my age).

we have used this area for almost 40 years..

eastern OK has a very rich tradition in these critters, i think largely due to them following the different tribes being moved here.

they are shameless scavengers and the indians  kept them well fed to keep them happy and away from camp sites and it is still common for people in certain areas to do this..if they start coming up to houses frequently.

our largest foot print so far i think was about 26 inches long and about 15 inches wide..
we found about 50 yards of really good foot prints on him. he was a male due to the blockiness of the print.

the females usually have a curvature to the print and arent as wide.

onething is 4sure..if you ever have a face to face encounter of less than 50 feet..you will be a believer..

7/8/2006 9:18:05 PM EDT
[#36]

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I'll see if I can get some books on it (like the one suggested in this thread). Sounds pretty interesting, and like a good lead to something.


Still working on this also.
7/8/2006 9:22:30 PM EDT
[#37]

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ya'll know that i and "white pit" from ARCOM do alot of Monkee investigations here in Ok, Ar, Tx and La..

Bigfoot, Monkees...sasquatch whatever you want to call them. i do not believe that they are shape shifters..

the ones we have seen..havent shifted..all evidence we have collected as been real stuff..


Just because they don't shift in front of you doesn't mean they can't.  Even though they leave evidence, it doesn't mean they actually always exist "here" either.  Why do you think no one can catch one?  Yes they exist...and in the same breath...no they don't.  Even Faeries have given folks gift and, according to old lore< a couple folks have even snagged a Faerie or two.....never works out well.

As long as you respect them, they'll generally leave you alone anyway.  They may or may not play "tricks" or "spook" you...but generally they won't harm you either.
7/8/2006 9:33:08 PM EDT
[#38]
So any idea on what bigfoot really is?
7/8/2006 9:36:05 PM EDT
[#39]

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So any idea on what bigfoot really is?


UFO pilot.

ETA probably
1. overactive imagination
2. wishful thinking
3. misidentification along witha  variable of #1 or #2
4. ancient ape/hominid yet to be discovered.

1-3 can fit every bigfoot story.
7/8/2006 9:40:46 PM EDT
[#40]

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So any idea on what bigfoot really is?


Nope... no clue.

Same with UFO's, Yetti, Loch Ness Monster, ghosts, alien abductions, strange creatures, etc.

There is just no logical explanation for them.  I tend to side with folks like desertmoon who believe that the descriptions that we come up with just aren't accurate.  There's something else to these things that defy a rational explanation.  

If you want to have some clue of what I'm talking about, read Daimonic Reality by Patrick Harpur.
7/8/2006 9:43:36 PM EDT
[#41]

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So any idea on what bigfoot really is?


spirit creature.....like Faerie, Thunderbirds, and such.....I think UFOs are the same thing....they are NOT from outer space but are part of the human experience.....

as to what they REALLLLLY are???

I have no ideas....if I ever run into an Angel....I'll be sure to ask....if anyone knows....
7/8/2006 10:07:13 PM EDT
[#42]
UFOs I think are from other planets, hence the disk shape and cigar shape.
I think shape shifters are...well I have no idea.
Bigfoot is a ape.
Nessy is a damn dinosaur.
Werewolves are...nonexistant.
Shadow People are evil spirits or vengeful spirits.
Zombies are Zombies
Monsters are bureaucrats.
Mothman is a bizarre mutation having to do with the area's industry, it was/is often sighted near an abandoned munitions factory.
7/8/2006 10:07:46 PM EDT
[#43]

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SWEET! I love fairy tales!

Someone tell a story.


not really a story but some weird shit.

the house i am in is on old indian land. we have several burial mounds in the woods around this area. The old man across the street told me not to hike the woods at night. He had seen something back there years ago and refuses to go into the woods at all now. I pretty much blew that off as BS.

a couple of years ago we had some freinds over and were talking about it. Decided to load up and make a walk through the woods. As you round the curve to head into the woods the temp droped atleast 5 degrees on an otherwise warm night. we began to walk in the woods and a few meters in we heard something LARGE not far away. I figured it was a dog or a coyote but the fotsteps sounded heay.

we decided after a bit to leave and heard the "dog" following us out. one of my guys spotted 2 orange eyes about 6' high in the tree line just up the trail. we al lit up the trail with surefires and nothing was there. as we began to walk we heard footsteps in that exact area we just lit up.

what ever it was followed us all the way back to my house. I have a rtee line about 75meters from my back yard and we could here it moving down there. the line is only about 8' thick so ifigured i would walk down and see. Saw 2 orage eyes again about 30 feet from me as i approache the tree line. lit it up and found nothing.

as i left the tree line i could here whatever it was leaving the area.

not long after i took Scaryguy back there on a bigfoot hunt. He had a simialr experience that night. He won't go back there anymore either.

i have no idea what it was but they were definantly eye refelections i and other saw. It's either VERY good at hiding in no cover or can vanish at will.


Sounds like you slayed one beer too many that night.
7/8/2006 10:11:22 PM EDT
[#44]
Anybody know of any "Spirit Walkers" per se that are in IL, specifically in Will County?

I wanna go spirit huntin'!
7/8/2006 10:17:23 PM EDT
[#45]

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UFOs I think are from other planets, hence the disk shape and cigar shape.


Study REAL UFOLogy...you will find this to NOT be the case.  Logical "UFO" sightings are most likely U.S Gov't Aircraft/Weapons/Mass Psychology tests.....ILLOGICAL yet truthful UFO reports are more like Faerie tales of Lore......in many cases...EXACTLY like Faerie tales.
7/8/2006 10:19:04 PM EDT
[#46]

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UFOs I think are from other planets, hence the disk shape and cigar shape.


Study REAL UFOLogy...you will find this to NOT be the case.  Logical "UFO" sightings are most likely U.S Gov't Aircraft/Weapons/Mass Psychology tests.....ILLOGICAL yet truthful UFO reports are more like Faerie tales of Lore......in many cases...EXACTLY like Faerie tales.


This is scaring me you are offline and still posting. Please stop
7/8/2006 10:34:36 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
UFOs I think are from other planets, hence the disk shape and cigar shape.


Study REAL UFOLogy...you will find this to NOT be the case.  Logical "UFO" sightings are most likely U.S Gov't Aircraft/Weapons/Mass Psychology tests.....ILLOGICAL yet truthful UFO reports are more like Faerie tales of Lore......in many cases...EXACTLY like Faerie tales.


This is scaring me you are offline and still posting. Please stop


The skinwalker got him!
7/8/2006 10:35:52 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
ya'll know that i and "white pit" from ARCOM do alot of Monkee investigations here in Ok, Ar, Tx and La..

Bigfoot, Monkees...sasquatch whatever you want to call them. i do not believe that they are shape shifters..

the ones we have seen..havent shifted..all evidence we have collected as been real stuff..

there are ALOT of these critters out there..more than anyone wants to deal with. there are 2 places i know of within Tulsa city limits that even my wife..has seen noticed the tale tell signs of.

there are 2 places on well known Ok lakes at extremely populated camp sites that i have no doubt that these critters walk right thru the camp sites on a routine basis scrounging for food in the trash cans.

i have posted some neat pics before..and am thinking about setting up a website for some of our photos..i have about 500 photos ..but i need a way to prevent people from copy and pasting or printing..

there is a ALOT of pure bullshit in most monkee lore..and alot of space cadets..out there..but there are quit a few legit..intelligent people who hit the woods..

we have them on out land and they are a quite interesting critters to say the least.
very imposing..we use our heads and try not to do anything that would cause problems..
there are 5 of us that use this area as our deer camp ( 3 in my family - myself, dad and brother and our family friend and his son who is my age).

we have used this area for almost 40 years..

eastern OK has a very rich tradition in these critters, i think largely due to them following the different tribes being moved here.

they are shameless scavengers and the indians  kept them well fed to keep them happy and away from camp sites and it is still common for people in certain areas to do this..if they start coming up to houses frequently.

our largest foot print so far i think was about 26 inches long and about 15 inches wide..
we found about 50 yards of really good foot prints on him. he was a male due to the blockiness of the print.

the females usually have a curvature to the print and arent as wide.

onething is 4sure..if you ever have a face to face encounter of less than 50 feet..you will be a believer..



Monkees?

7/8/2006 10:38:17 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
UFOs I think are from other planets, hence the disk shape and cigar shape.


Study REAL UFOLogy...you will find this to NOT be the case.  Logical "UFO" sightings are most likely U.S Gov't Aircraft/Weapons/Mass Psychology tests.....ILLOGICAL yet truthful UFO reports are more like Faerie tales of Lore......in many cases...EXACTLY like Faerie tales.


This is scaring me you are offline and still posting. Please stop


LOL....we are discussing the issue in another thread....looks like a bunch of us are victims.....!!!!

yes, I am still online.
7/8/2006 10:38:53 PM EDT
[#50]
Hey beer maybe it was a leprechaun I heard they are  a problem around Mobile

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