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9/6/2017 12:50:37 PM EDT
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9/6/2017 12:57:26 PM EDT
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I have liked the 10L cans from Ohio prep,  it's easier to carry them back and forth to the gas station.  They are labeled "Made in Poland."  I've filled up in front of the police and they haven't ratted me out to the EPA yet. 
9/6/2017 1:52:06 PM EDT
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How long can I safely store ethanol free 87 octane gas in these in my garage out of the sun before rotating it out roughly?
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People will tell you 60-90 days. I've had ef gas in a plastic can sit for over a year and work just fine, no stabil.
9/6/2017 2:32:49 PM EDT
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Do you even Amazon?

Here besides Canada
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They were available yesterday
9/6/2017 2:36:28 PM EDT
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like a BOSS!
9/6/2017 2:37:46 PM EDT
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Yeah, the can I was looking at is OOS on Amazon now.  I think it's THIS thread.   Though, it could be those little weather disturbances in TX and FL...but I doubt it. 
9/6/2017 3:06:30 PM EDT
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I've stored ethanol free 87 octane mixed with 1 oz of marine Sta-Bil or 1 oz of Seafoam (depending on what I have on hand) for over a year outdoors out of direct sunlight and the fuel worked fine in a lawn mower and in my vehicles.  

I love those NATO cans.
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How long can I safely store ethanol free 87 octane gas in these in my garage out of the sun before rotating it out roughly?
I've stored ethanol free 87 octane mixed with 1 oz of marine Sta-Bil or 1 oz of Seafoam (depending on what I have on hand) for over a year outdoors out of direct sunlight and the fuel worked fine in a lawn mower and in my vehicles.  

I love those NATO cans.
Pretty much my experience, except that I use 1 oz. SeaFoam per gallon (that's what the manufacturer recommends.)
I use it in all my gas-powered lawn equipment - never had a problem.
9/6/2017 3:56:22 PM EDT
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Pretty much my experience, except that I use 1 oz. SeaFoam per gallon (that's what the manufacturer recommends.)
I use it in all my gas-powered lawn equipment - never had a problem.
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How long can I safely store ethanol free 87 octane gas in these in my garage out of the sun before rotating it out roughly?
I've stored ethanol free 87 octane mixed with 1 oz of marine Sta-Bil or 1 oz of Seafoam (depending on what I have on hand) for over a year outdoors out of direct sunlight and the fuel worked fine in a lawn mower and in my vehicles.  

I love those NATO cans.
Pretty much my experience, except that I use 1 oz. SeaFoam per gallon (that's what the manufacturer recommends.)
I use it in all my gas-powered lawn equipment - never had a problem.
My bad.  I also use 1oz/gal.  Should've made that clearer.  
9/7/2017 1:31:19 AM EDT
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I have ten of These. They do not leak. They are fully welded, great paint and coated inside and out. I carried 4 with me to southeast Texas last week while conducting rescues and resupply. I don't know how much gas I transferred to people from those cans to fill generators and gas cans but it was a lot. I can't speak for anyone else's experience but these are the only ones I'll buy.
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Before I do some ordering, can someone confirm for me if the the Wavian CARB spout will work well (not leak) with either the  Deutscheoptik or Atlantic British NATO can?
9/7/2017 1:33:09 AM EDT
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~$14 at Costco. They are "green cans" but I prefer that kind for my uses.

Scepter 5.3 gal

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Did you get those recently at Costco or is that from last year?  If that was recently, maybe I need to shoot over and see if they have some tomorrow.
9/7/2017 11:01:07 AM EDT
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As a temp option I got a Jerry can from Habor Freight lol.

Jerry Can

I know it's not the best, but I just wanted 10 gallons of gas at the min stored up in case we need some depending on where Irma goes.  I am going to order the 4 pack from Deutsche Optik in the next couple of weeks.

If I am carrying Jerry cans on my 4Runner, will the DO ones be ok?  And by OK am I risking some dumbass officer stopping me saying they aren't CARB legal.
9/7/2017 2:38:03 PM EDT
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From everything I can tell, the Atlantic British cans ARE Wavian's....so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
9/7/2017 3:15:05 PM EDT
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From everything I can tell, the Atlantic British cans ARE Wavian's....so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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Before I do some ordering, can someone confirm for me if the the Wavian CARB spout will work well (not leak) with either the  Deutscheoptik or Atlantic British NATO can?
From everything I can tell, the Atlantic British cans ARE Wavian's....so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
That would be cool - my wife is currently working in Northern California and I just learned that Wavian USA is based in the Chico area.  They want just under $80/can/spout combo, but I don't need a spout for every can.

If the ABs would work, I could buy the spout here (Amazon refused to ship it here and I won't be back in WA for a bit) and have four ABs shipped for about $100 less that four Wavians with spouts.  However, assuming one gets just one spout, the savings only boils down to $70 or so, but that's an extra can or a ribeye and a couple of martinis...

ETA: this is pretty impressive

Can Your Gas Can Do This? | Wavian Jerry Cans at Swiss Link
9/7/2017 3:35:53 PM EDT
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I've got one of those No-Spill 5 gallon for gas, and a 1 gallon for mix. I really love these gas cans compared to the standard plastic gas can that I had previously. My only complaint is that it can take a while to pour out the full 5 gallons if you need to.
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This won't be a popular option here....but honestly, once these came out and I bought one, I didn't see the urgent need for jerry cans anymore.


Exponentially superior to any gas can I've ever used prior to it.
I've got one of those No-Spill 5 gallon for gas, and a 1 gallon for mix. I really love these gas cans compared to the standard plastic gas can that I had previously. My only complaint is that it can take a while to pour out the full 5 gallons if you need to.
I have the same 5 gallon/1gallon set up.  The best plastic cans I've used by far.
9/7/2017 3:52:49 PM EDT
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Would there be a static issue with the metal cans if you sprayed them with bedliner?
9/7/2017 3:56:01 PM EDT
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any thoughts on this can?  is it GTG?  would I be an asshole for storing this in my attached garage under my house?

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  •                      Large ID zone permits user labeling of contents to avoid misuse
  •  Stainless steel flame arrester for exceptional corrosion protection – reliably dissipates heat to prevent flashback ignition •
    Long 3-1/2" (88mm) length arrester allows safe, secure placement of gas nozzle.
    Gasoline, Gas-Oily Mixture, Kerosine, Diesel
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Love mine. Works excellent. The 5 gallon container has some weight to it when full. I could see a smaller one working better for filling up the snowblower/pushmower/etc.
9/8/2017 1:42:02 PM EDT
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From everything I can tell, the Atlantic British cans ARE Wavian's....so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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Before I do some ordering, can someone confirm for me if the the Wavian CARB spout will work well (not leak) with either the  Deutscheoptik or Atlantic British NATO can?
From everything I can tell, the Atlantic British cans ARE Wavian's....so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Just as a follow up, I spoke to both Wavian USA and Atlantic British today and confirmed that Atlantic British's Jerry Cans are indeed Wavians.  They don't use other cans, so any order will receive real Wavians made to the same specs.
9/8/2017 4:50:43 PM EDT
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Just as a follow up, I spoke to both Wavian USA and Atlantic British today and confirmed that Atlantic British's Jerry Cans are indeed Wavians.  They don't use other cans, so any order will receive real Wavians made to the same specs.
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Before I do some ordering, can someone confirm for me if the the Wavian CARB spout will work well (not leak) with either the  Deutscheoptik or Atlantic British NATO can?
From everything I can tell, the Atlantic British cans ARE Wavian's....so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Just as a follow up, I spoke to both Wavian USA and Atlantic British today and confirmed that Atlantic British's Jerry Cans are indeed Wavians.  They don't use other cans, so any order will receive real Wavians made to the same specs.
I wish the Wavian 10L / 2.5 Gallon cans were the tall thin style like the Polish ones.
9/8/2017 5:05:52 PM EDT
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Did you get those recently at Costco or is that from last year?  If that was recently, maybe I need to shoot over and see if they have some tomorrow.
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How long can you store fuel in there?
9/13/2017 6:47:19 PM EDT
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For that price? I can guarantee they are Chinese and the paint will begin to flake off, rust, and the inside doesn't have a coating on the inside. 
9/13/2017 6:52:48 PM EDT
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Love mine. Works excellent. The 5 gallon container has some weight to it when full. I could see a smaller one working better for filling up the snowblower/pushmower/etc.
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That's why I like mine too. Trying to get the ford capless can adapter lined up right while lifting the 5gal can, also while trying not to douse yourself below the waist with fuel can be.. a challenge.
9/13/2017 6:56:58 PM EDT
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As a temp option I got a Jerry can from Habor Freight lol.

Jerry Can

I know it's not the best, but I just wanted 10 gallons of gas at the min stored up in case we need some depending on where Irma goes.  I am going to order the 4 pack from Deutsche Optik in the next couple of weeks.

If I am carrying Jerry cans on my 4Runner, will the DO ones be ok?  And by OK am I risking some dumbass officer stopping me saying they aren't CARB legal.
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I was just about to suggest those. They are US made by Midwest. I got the last two that HF had in Lenoir, NC. Couldn't find any cans last week within 100mi of Banner Elk. Drove from SC to FL with them full, behind the drivers seat of
our T4R, never a wiff of gas. Stopped by a Tractor Supply and grabbed a couple of the EZ Pour spouts as suggested and tossed the spring loaded ones that
 come with the cans. No complaints, been using them since Sat. Going to buy a few more when they get more in. 20% off coupon makes them $32. 
9/13/2017 7:02:14 PM EDT
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i like these. started using them to store e85 for a tuned turbo car. also store a bit if it appears that it might be a bit hard to come by due to hurricanes or pipeline breaks.

i can get 2 in the back of a small hatchback. i also have scepter and some standard 5 gallon jugs.

i like the drums as i have a pump and dont have to lift the 5 gallon can up and slowly poor gas into the tank. the hand pump is as fast as a service station pump.

if i was really into this sort of stuff i would get a pickup with an auxiliary tank.

4 of these stores 60 gallons and thats more than enough for me for a pretty long period of time. its not as portable as 5 gallon cans but like i said i can get two (plus a couple of 5 gallon jugs) in a small hatchback. thats 40 gallons...

9/13/2017 7:03:35 PM EDT
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Rotopax is another option, unique storage options.
9/13/2017 7:20:16 PM EDT
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How about this Scepter? Buy the replacement spout that's linked on the same page and you're good to go.

https://www.amazon.com/Scepter-05086-Military-Style-5-Gal/dp/B00GVJSFJ2/



https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Spout-Water-Update-Your/dp/B00CYNDNM8/

9/13/2017 7:33:44 PM EDT
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As a temp option I got a Jerry can from Habor Freight lol.

Jerry Can

I know it's not the best, but I just wanted 10 gallons of gas at the min stored up in case we need some depending on where Irma goes.  I am going to order the 4 pack from Deutsche Optik in the next couple of weeks.

If I am carrying Jerry cans on my 4Runner, will the DO ones be ok?  And by OK am I risking some dumbass officer stopping me saying they aren't CARB legal.
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You won't regret it (the DO cans).  I regularly run 3-5 year old gas from these cans, with zero venting occurring over that time frame.
9/13/2017 7:42:26 PM EDT
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As a temp option I got a Jerry can from Habor Freight lol.

Jerry Can

I know it's not the best, but I just wanted 10 gallons of gas at the min stored up in case we need some depending on where Irma goes.  I am going to order the 4 pack from Deutsche Optik in the next couple of weeks.

If I am carrying Jerry cans on my 4Runner, will the DO ones be ok?  And by OK am I risking some dumbass officer stopping me saying they aren't CARB legal.
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While not impossible, that scenario seems incredibly unlikely. If you're worried, scuff them up a little and make them look used. "What do ya mean, officer? I've had these for years." Pre-ban, grandfathered gas cans are not prohibited by CARB (but it hurts California's feelings if you use them).

More likely is that an officer wouldn't give a second thought to your gas cans. Perhaps Border Patrol on the Canada side MIGHT pay attention if you were driving them back in the country.
9/14/2017 12:45:15 AM EDT
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Yes they are.  I have purchased some the 10 liter scepters from Lexington Container a few years ago.  Very happy.  They are great people too.  I was there yesterday.
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I have ten of These. They do not leak. They are fully welded, great paint and coated inside and out. I carried 4 with me to southeast Texas last week while conducting rescues and resupply. I don't know how much gas I transferred to people from those cans to fill generators and gas cans but it was a lot. I can't speak for anyone else's experience but these are the only ones I'll buy.
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These are fantastic cans.  I bought 12 of them in 2009 for $403.65. Price for 12 more went up to $468.  I think I might pull the trigger.

Before that I bought the VP Racing Jugs.  I think I had six of them.  Two came apart at the seams and were replaced under warranty.  Still have them empty somewhere.....  Should have sold them last week.  
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Looks like the Roverparts and deutscheoptik cans are the same cans.  Going to go this route.  Is there a big difference in the flexi and straight spout?
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I like my flex spouts. They are still flexible after 7-8 years in the Florida heat.
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The nozzle I have for my Jerry Cans leak like crazy.  I guess I need new gaskets but I don't think the nozzle is the best quality.
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I had a nozzle that leaked.  Replaced it and now it stays dry as a bone.
9/14/2017 2:58:26 AM EDT
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Someone said the AB cans are Wavians but does anybody know about the DO cans?
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I had a nozzle that leaked.  Replaced it and now it stays dry as a bone.
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The nozzle I have for my Jerry Cans leak like crazy.  I guess I need new gaskets but I don't think the nozzle is the best quality.
I had a nozzle that leaked.  Replaced it and now it stays dry as a bone.
I've been told that the gaskets for the nozzles should be thicker than what's on the can caps.

I've never had a can cap leak, but my nozzle has.

I bought these (they're thicker than what comes on the cans) and they work great for the can caps and nozzles.
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  • Rubber Gasket - Jerry can gaskets become brittle and warped over time, reducing their ability to create a seal and hold liquids inside. Thanks to Mission Automotive Replacement Can Gaskets, you'll be replacing old gaskets to renew your jerry can's holding power

9/14/2017 4:40:55 PM EDT
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I'm not a fuel scientist. For long term storage, in an area where finding ethanol free fuel is not easy, should I fill these cans to the top to reduce the amount of moisture-laden air that gets trapped inside the can?
9/14/2017 6:52:21 PM EDT
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Yes.  I found to get a full 20 liters you need to tip the can a little, but then keep that in mind when you open them again so it doesn't spill out.
9/14/2017 11:25:38 PM EDT
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Are any of the eBay cans worth a shit?  I am leaning towards the DO cans, but damn that's a lot!!
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Sure!

You can also find the .mil Scepter's there but it will cost...

Why not repurpose an old hot water heater tank? They come in various sizes and are metal.
9/15/2017 12:02:06 PM EDT
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How about the plastic VP fuel containers?  Are they ok for storage?  Could I store ethanol free in there for say a year?
9/15/2017 12:13:25 PM EDT
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I have a couple of the Atlantic British ones.  I love them.  They work.  Only issue is not losing the filler attachment, as it tends to pop out of the plastic holder on the top of the can.

I will never buy another of those motherfucking, cock licking, semen gargling, donkey-ball sniffing epa plastic jugs.
9/15/2017 12:16:42 PM EDT
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Oh for another shipping container full of Wavians from Ohio Prep for $200/8 shipped....
9/15/2017 12:56:23 PM EDT
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Yes.  I found to get a full 20 liters you need to tip the can a little, but then keep that in mind when you open them again so it doesn't spill out.


That used to be my take on them.  
Until a hot day and opening a can shot a huge cloud/amount of gas 4-5 foot.  
Now I jamb the nozzle in the can and when it clicks off, I call that good.

I am not sure why they did that.  
Was it hot?  Yes.
Was it completely full? Yes.  
Was it oxygenated gas? Don't know.
I do know that any spark and I would have been a dipshit roman candle.  

You all could help me with the questions because I'd like to fill them all the way up.  
Maybe it was the vent doing it.  

My oldest can is dated 1956 or 54 and seals tight.  
So these cans are life time almost buys if you take care of them.  

Contrast that with those piece of shit plastic epa fucktard jugs that really need crammed up some jackass commies backside.
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This.  Single cans are also available.

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I bought 4 of these about 6 months ago and used them for the first time this last weekend.  The gaskets failed miserably and leaked.
9/15/2017 1:48:35 PM EDT
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That is odd. I have only ever had one leak, replaced the gasket, no problem afterward. replace the gaskets. they probably have been sitting up for a long time.
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I have a couple of those. They say not for long term storage. I have them filled and am testing them out. The thing I like about them is, you can easily pour gas from Jerry cans into them and then fuel modern vehicles with the small gas tank hole.
9/15/2017 2:19:04 PM EDT
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~$14 at Costco. They are "green cans" but I prefer that kind for my uses.

Scepter 5.3 gal

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9/16/2017 12:27:50 AM EDT
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Do I need an additive if I am using ethanol free gas?
9/16/2017 12:31:33 AM EDT
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This won't be a popular option here....but honestly, once these came out and I bought one, I didn't see the urgent need for jerry cans anymore.


Exponentially superior to any gas can I've ever used prior to it.
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Probably don't need snake oil regardless of the gasoline, with the modern products available, if you store it correctly.

This suggests NOT storing it for long periods in a Home depot/Walmart cheap leaky unsealed $15 gas can.

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