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2/29/2020 12:54:57 PM EDT
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The VA will refund it if you paid one and didn't need to.  You can call them, but they'll probably do it automatically.
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This.  And they'll tell you that the lender must initiate the case with the VA.  The lender needs to send a note to the VA telling them that they failed to properly check your certificate of eligibility (COE) and they are a stupid lender.
2/29/2020 1:07:17 PM EDT
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Zillow refi calculator:  https://www.zillow.com/mortgage-calculator/refinance-calculator/

Everyone's scenario is going to differ based on several factors.  Use this to input your current mortgage and what your refi numbers would be. Assuming you plan to stay in your house for the life of the loan, it should tell you what your new monthly payment would be, the break even point to recover your refi expenses, the most you can save (or not save) in interest over the life of the loan if you did refi, and when you start seeing diminished returns due to restarting the amortization chart.  In my case it showed that I should pay off my refi at 27 years to maximize my interest savings ($50,000+) over my previous loan. If I let the refi run the full 30 years my interest savings would drop to ~$15,000.

Extra payment/early payoff calculator:  https://www.daveramsey.com/mortgage-payoff-calculator

I used the early payment calculator to figure out I should pay an extra $87 in principle on my loan monthly to pay it off in 27 years.  In my case my monthly payment dropped ~$170/month due to refi, so I can pay the extra $87, still be paying less than I was with the original loan, and maximize the refi savings.  I could always pay it off sooner than 27 years but at 2.75% that extra money to pay it off sooner can probably be put to better use elsewhere.

One time additional principal payment calculator (would you save more in interest by applying closing costs to your original loan without a refi?):  https://www.mortgagecalculators.info/calc-additionalpayment.php

In some cases (i.e. you dont get to waive your funding fee) you may be better served taking that lump sum you'd pay in refi closing costs and applying it to the principle of your original mortgage.  In my case if I applied the $2600 as a one time principle payment instead of using it to pay for a refi I would save ~$4000 in interest over the life of the loan.  $50,000 savings is better than $4000 savings so refi made sense for me.

So I opted to refi.  I rolled the $2600 in closing costs back into my loan which raised my APR to 2.76%.  I can now pay ~$90 less per month and still be on track to pay it off in 27 years and save $50,000+ in interest over my old loan.  It doesnt cost me anything out of pocket and I spent a couple hours compiling all the documents and sending them in.  They are going to send the closing people to my living room to sign everything.

As a bonus some of that $2600 will eventually come back to me in the form of an escrow refund from my old lender.

The VA streamline process is so easy there is no reason not to do it as long as the numbers line up in your favor.  If you have plans to move it may not make sense.
2/29/2020 1:21:19 PM EDT
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Corrina Carter 757 273-6087 or  [email protected]

She is licensed in PA,MD,DC,VA,NC and FL.

Tell her that you know me from the gun forum.   She is giving my customers a better deal because I have sent her a half dozen clients in the last 3 days.  Good luck

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Rates seem pretty volatile.   However, on wednesday, I just did a 15yr VA refi using an Arfommer who does mortgages, and got 2.625% with $1300 in closing/fees.
does he do business in FL?
Corrina Carter 757 273-6087 or  [email protected]

She is licensed in PA,MD,DC,VA,NC and FL.

Tell her that you know me from the gun forum.   She is giving my customers a better deal because I have sent her a half dozen clients in the last 3 days.  Good luck

Chris
@carsandguns, Thanks Chris, I sent her an e-mail last night at7:17PM she responded at 7:19PM and we talked this morning about options. Very friendly person and covered a lot of information.
2/29/2020 1:39:15 PM EDT
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$3900 seems high IMO on 72K unless you are paying the funding fee
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No funding fee.
What's even more whack with quicken, is that they told me I couldn't do a VA refi for 72K because the loan amount is too low.
Went to Nielsen, no problems.
2/29/2020 4:00:16 PM EDT
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Quicken Loan/Rocket Mortgage just called me and told me they can get me 2.75% for fixed 30 year refinance (VA IRRL).
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Make sure you use protection when dealing with them so you don't catch something that will not was off.  They will tell you whatever it takes to get you to fill out an app and give zero F's if they can't fulfill it.   They are the most hated company in the industry.  Zero ethics.

Call Corrina Carter - 757 273-6087 or [email protected] if you want a comparable quote.
2/29/2020 4:02:49 PM EDT
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@carsandguns, Thanks Chris, I sent her an e-mail last night at7:17PM she responded at 7:19PM and we talked this morning about options. Very friendly person and covered a lot of information.
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Rates seem pretty volatile.   However, on wednesday, I just did a 15yr VA refi using an Arfommer who does mortgages, and got 2.625% with $1300 in closing/fees.
does he do business in FL?
Corrina Carter 757 273-6087 or  [email protected]

She is licensed in PA,MD,DC,VA,NC and FL.

Tell her that you know me from the gun forum.   She is giving my customers a better deal because I have sent her a half dozen clients in the last 3 days.  Good luck

Chris
@carsandguns, Thanks Chris, I sent her an e-mail last night at7:17PM she responded at 7:19PM and we talked this morning about options. Very friendly person and covered a lot of information.
That's great to hear!   Appreciate the update.  She is going to owe me dinner at the next conference.  lol
2/29/2020 6:54:35 PM EDT
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ok, dumb question(s).  I'd appreciate some info.  I want to refi at a 15 or would consider a 10 year fixed.

I have a 30 fixed convention at 4.5%.   Want to get it paid off extra quickly, so I make extra payments, lots of extra payments.

I'm have a VA disability.

These VA refi's people are discussing:  Do I understand that the all in refi fees for about $125K loan at a  10/15 fixed rate should be less than about $1500?  By making lots of extra payments, over half my house is paid off already.

So is going VA worth while, or should I look to just getting a fixed 10/15 conventional with no points and minimal fees?

Thanks in advance for any good advise!!
2/29/2020 8:12:25 PM EDT
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ok, dumb question(s).  I'd appreciate some info.  I want to refi at a 15 or would consider a 10 year fixed.

I have a 30 fixed convention at 4.5%.   Want to get it paid off extra quickly, so I make extra payments, lots of extra payments.

I'm have a VA disability.

These VA refi's people are discussing:  Do I understand that the all in refi fees for about $125K loan at a  10/15 fixed rate should be less than about $1500?  By making lots of extra payments, over half my house is paid off already.

So is going VA worth while, or should I look to just getting a fixed 10/15 conventional with no points and minimal fees?

Thanks in advance for any good advise!!
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4.5!
Definately refi at a 10/15.   With current rates at 3% and under, any bank fees at a reasonable amount would be worth it.   If your current loan is a VA, then with the irrl, no va fees.  If your existing loan is a conventional, then get a nobe, as your funding fees will be waived, but not not bank fees.
With more than 20% home value paid off, you wouldn't need pmi.  Hell, even with a conventional, refi at 3%!
2/29/2020 8:55:05 PM EDT
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I’m sure it’s probably bait and switch?  I keep seeing this number pop up, might be time to refi?
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Closed on VA loan in California last October for 3.00%
3/1/2020 11:26:33 AM EDT
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Posted this in the other mortgage thread but it probably should go in this thread.

I am currently at 5.5% and have a payoff of $77,000. I was going to leave it alone and just knock it out quick as soon as my daughter graduates college next year. (currently paying somewhere between 25-30K a year for her school)

Am I reading right that with a VA disability rating, I can refi without costs? If that is the case I will look into it. I just didn't want to refi if I was going to incur thousands of dollars in fees.
3/1/2020 11:28:29 AM EDT
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Posted this in the other mortgage thread but it probably should go in this thread.

I am currently at 5.5% and have a payoff of $77,000. I was going to leave it alone and just knock it out quick as soon as my daughter graduates college next year. (currently paying somewhere between 25-30K a year for her school)

Am I reading right that with a VA disability rating, I can refi without costs? If that is the case I will look into it. I just didn't want to refi if I was going to incur thousands of dollars in fees.
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There are still fees, it’s not free, but the costs are much lower as a disabled vet.
3/1/2020 1:09:02 PM EDT
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There are still fees, it’s not free, but the costs are much lower as a disabled vet.
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To piggyback on this, USCG, how many years left do you project it will take to pay off your current loan?  Take closing costs (what the bank charges) and divide by your remaing projected months.  That is how much lower your new mortgage needs to be to break even.  If new mortgage is much less than that, I'd refi.
3/1/2020 2:24:54 PM EDT
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@carsandguns hooked me up with a TN lender/broker and in about an hour of my time I've got a 3.0% rate locked for an IRRRL and fees are about $2k. No points and no funding fee for me.

Credit score is about 730 so not even that great. Current loan is at 3.875% and 6.5 years into the mortgage. If we just keep paying our normal payment, we pay this new 30 year loan off a couple of year earlier than the existing loan that has 23.5 years left on it. Plus we will have the flexibility to pay much less if something unexpected happens down the road.

It's definitely been the best use of a couple hours in recent memory.
3/1/2020 2:27:20 PM EDT
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Just locked in 2.75% fixed 30yr with zero bank fees, zero points, and $2,800 in lender credits to do a VA IRRL on the 456k we still owe. Planning to put out the same amount of money each month to target even more principal as we can afford to do it now.
3/1/2020 5:18:04 PM EDT
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@carsandguns hooked me up with a TN lender/broker and in about an hour of my time I've got a 3.0% rate locked for an IRRRL and fees are about $2k. No points and no funding fee for me.

Credit score is about 730 so not even that great. Current loan is at 3.875% and 6.5 years into the mortgage. If we just keep paying our normal payment, we pay this new 30 year loan off a couple of year earlier than the existing loan that has 23.5 years left on it. Plus we will have the flexibility to pay much less if something unexpected happens down the road.

It's definitely been the best use of a couple hours in recent memory.
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That’s great news!   Thanks for the update.
3/1/2020 7:42:05 PM EDT
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That's great to hear!   Appreciate the update.  She is going to owe me dinner at the next conference.  lol
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Rates seem pretty volatile.   However, on wednesday, I just did a 15yr VA refi using an Arfommer who does mortgages, and got 2.625% with $1300 in closing/fees.
does he do business in FL?
Corrina Carter 757 273-6087 or  [email protected]

She is licensed in PA,MD,DC,VA,NC and FL.

Tell her that you know me from the gun forum.   She is giving my customers a better deal because I have sent her a half dozen clients in the last 3 days.  Good luck

Chris
@carsandguns, Thanks Chris, I sent her an e-mail last night at7:17PM she responded at 7:19PM and we talked this morning about options. Very friendly person and covered a lot of information.
That's great to hear!   Appreciate the update.  She is going to owe me dinner at the next conference.  lol
@carsandguns,  a nice update ,spent some time today getting Carina information and I am locked in at 2.75% for a 30 year. Certainly beats the initial offerings from my current lender Wells Fargo.
3/1/2020 9:27:32 PM EDT
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To piggyback on this, USCG, how many years left do you project it will take to pay off your current loan?  Take closing costs (what the bank charges) and divide by your remaing projected months.  That is how much lower your new mortgage needs to be to break even.  If new mortgage is much less than that, I'd refi.
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I have 17 or 18 years left at 5.5% but I pay more than the minimum so it wont take that long.  Just wondering if I should refi?
3/1/2020 9:34:07 PM EDT
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I have 17 or 18 years left at 5.5% but I pay more than the minimum so it wont take that long.  Just wondering if I should refi?
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It's hard to imagine a scenario where cutting your interest rate in half wouldn't save you money IMO.  I'd be interested how a 2.675%/15 year payment would compare to your 5.5%/30 now.
3/1/2020 9:48:55 PM EDT
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@carsandguns Do you have a broker in GA?
3/1/2020 10:06:41 PM EDT
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Just locked in 2.75% fixed 30yr with zero bank fees, zero points, and $2,800 in lender credits to do a VA IRRL on the 456k we still owe. Planning to put out the same amount of money each month to target even more principal as we can afford to do it now.
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Who did you go through?

I haven’t signed the paperwork but I’m locked at 2.75% with rocket/quicken.  I’m paying a lot more than $2,800 in fees.

@carsandguns

Do you know anyone in Florida?
3/1/2020 10:27:44 PM EDT
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Who did you go through?

I haven't signed the paperwork but I'm locked at 2.75% with rocket/quicken.  I'm paying a lot more than $2,800 in fees.

@carsandguns

Do you know anyone in Florida?
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He posted her info earlier.

Call Corrina Carter - 757 273-6087 or [email protected] if you want a comparable quote.
She is licensed in PA,MD,DC,VA,NC and FL.
Tell her that you know me from the gun forum. She is giving my customers a better deal because I have sent her a half dozen clients in the last 3 days. Good luck

Chris
3/1/2020 10:36:49 PM EDT
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Brett Weiss
GA Broker 602 410-2515
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Tell him you know me from the Gun Forum.   Good luck!
3/1/2020 10:39:09 PM EDT
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He posted her info earlier.

Call Corrina Carter - 757 273-6087 or [email protected] if you want a comparable quote.
She is licensed in PA,MD,DC,VA,NC and FL.
Tell her that you know me from the gun forum. She is giving my customers a better deal because I have sent her a half dozen clients in the last 3 days. Good luck

Chris
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Who did you go through?

I haven't signed the paperwork but I'm locked at 2.75% with rocket/quicken.  I'm paying a lot more than $2,800 in fees.

@carsandguns

Do you know anyone in Florida?
He posted her info earlier.

Call Corrina Carter - 757 273-6087 or [email protected] if you want a comparable quote.
She is licensed in PA,MD,DC,VA,NC and FL.
Tell her that you know me from the gun forum. She is giving my customers a better deal because I have sent her a half dozen clients in the last 3 days. Good luck

Chris
Thank you!

Yes Corrina will take care of you.   I think she has 4 or 5 members in process already.

Good luck!   If you have any issues let me know.
3/1/2020 11:15:30 PM EDT
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@carsandguns Do you have a broker in MS?!
3/1/2020 11:16:39 PM EDT
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Thank you!

Yes Corrina will take care of you.   I think she has 4 or 5 members in process already.

Good luck!   If you have any issues let me know.
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I sent you a PM to see if you can help an Okie
3/2/2020 7:32:45 AM EDT
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@carsandguns

Oregon dude. Who is my go to? At 3.875. Would love anything below 3. Over 800 credit
3/2/2020 9:12:28 AM EDT
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@carsandguns,  a nice update ,spent some time today getting Carina information and I am locked in at 2.75% for a 30 year. Certainly beats the initial offerings from my current lender Wells Fargo.
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Rates seem pretty volatile.   However, on wednesday, I just did a 15yr VA refi using an Arfommer who does mortgages, and got 2.625% with $1300 in closing/fees.
does he do business in FL?
Corrina Carter 757 273-6087 or  [email protected]

She is licensed in PA,MD,DC,VA,NC and FL.

Tell her that you know me from the gun forum.   She is giving my customers a better deal because I have sent her a half dozen clients in the last 3 days.  Good luck

Chris
@carsandguns, Thanks Chris, I sent her an e-mail last night at7:17PM she responded at 7:19PM and we talked this morning about options. Very friendly person and covered a lot of information.
That's great to hear!   Appreciate the update.  She is going to owe me dinner at the next conference.  lol
@carsandguns,  a nice update ,spent some time today getting Carina information and I am locked in at 2.75% for a 30 year. Certainly beats the initial offerings from my current lender Wells Fargo.
Fantastic!  Congrats!  That is an incredible rate.
3/2/2020 9:15:34 AM EDT
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I am checking on MS.   My wife is from Columbus and I was licensed there but have not renewed it yet.   Making some calls and will let you know.

Thanks,
Chris
3/2/2020 9:16:14 AM EDT
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Oregon dude. Who is my go to? At 3.875. Would love anything below 3. Over 800 credit
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I will find you someone.   Making some calls now.

Chris
3/2/2020 9:46:55 AM EDT
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I was so happy we got 8.5% or 8.75% on my first house.
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Ha!

I was at 12%.

Good ole days!
3/2/2020 10:00:17 AM EDT
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Ha!

I was at 12%.

Good ole days!
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I was so happy we got 8.5% or 8.75% on my first house.
Ha!

I was at 12%.

Good ole days!
I actually saw old mortgage paperwork for 15% from the early 1980s once upon a time.  Shocking.
3/2/2020 10:08:57 AM EDT
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I actually saw old mortgage paperwork for 15% from the early 1980s once upon a time.  Shocking.
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Wow, no wonder people didn't live beyond their means nearly as much in the past.  With interest rates like that people would have been forced to live in much more modest homes relative to their income level compared to now.
3/2/2020 10:15:34 AM EDT
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Any thoughts on whether I should look to refi our VA loan, currently 3.25% @ 30 years, about 3.5 years into the loan?

We are probably only going to be there for another 3-4 years.  I want to make sure that we're eligible for another VA loan if we PCS in 3-4 years.

We are also eligible for a physician loan.  Might that offer a better alternative or comparable rate?
3/2/2020 10:18:27 AM EDT
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Any thoughts on whether I should look to refi our VA loan, currently 3.25% @ 30 years, about 3.5 years into the loan?

We are probably only going to be there for another 3-4 years.  I want to make sure that we're eligible for another VA loan if we PCS in 3-4 years.

We are also eligible for a physician loan.  Might that offer a better alternative or comparable rate?
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from what I'm hearing, VA won't do the streamlined refi unless it's shaving 0.5% or more off the rate, which may be hard to do.

Also, sending PM on different matter.
3/2/2020 10:48:04 AM EDT
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Any thoughts on whether I should look to refi our VA loan, currently 3.25% @ 30 years, about 3.5 years into the loan?

We are probably only going to be there for another 3-4 years.  I want to make sure that we're eligible for another VA loan if we PCS in 3-4 years.

We are also eligible for a physician loan.  Might that offer a better alternative or comparable rate?
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It really depends on your loan balance.  $100K loan probably not worth it.   $500K would probably have enough savings to justify it.

Call Corrina @ 757 273-6087 or   [email protected] and she can run the numbers for you.
3/2/2020 11:02:27 AM EDT
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It really depends on your loan balance.  $100K loan probably not worth it.   $500K would probably have enough savings to justify it.

Call Corrina @ 757 273-6087 or   [email protected] and she can run the numbers for you.
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Thanks. I'll shoot her an email.
3/2/2020 11:03:57 AM EDT
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Oregon dude. Who is my go to? At 3.875. Would love anything below 3. Over 800 credit
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Tell him Chris T sent you.

Jace Cates

https://findtheadvantage.com

(503) 407-1181

(503) 266-5800

[email protected]

265 SW 1st Ave
Canby, OR 97013
3/2/2020 11:44:26 AM EDT
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I have 17 or 18 years left at 5.5% but I pay more than the minimum so it wont take that long.  Just wondering if I should refi?
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Yes, yes, and yes.
Refi a 15yr at sub 3% is relatively easy.

You'd almost be a fool for not doing so, unless you'll pay off your current mort in like 5 years.
3/2/2020 11:51:48 AM EDT
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For you guys not on the East coast working Chris or Semper, you can IM Mcnielsen, or give him a call.  Mike at 6126185335, he's licensed for all states.  IIRC he works for the same company as Chris.

I know it seems like a few of us are pimping out some brokers, but if you're paying more than 3.5, then anybody mentioned is someone you should he talking to.
3/2/2020 12:23:35 PM EDT
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MrCarsandGuns,

I sent you and email, 2 mortgages in tx, let me know if its in your wheelhouse
3/2/2020 12:31:50 PM EDT
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@carsandguns

Check your ims please
3/2/2020 12:50:31 PM EDT
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I saw several people saying Quicken (Rocket mortgage) was bad or not competitive

I’m locked at 2.75%

Is there something I’m not aware of(like excessive Lender  fees?)
3/2/2020 12:52:47 PM EDT
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Just sent you an e-mail.
3/2/2020 12:53:58 PM EDT
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I saw several people saying Quicken (Rocket mortgage) was bad or not competitive

I’m locked at 2.75%

Is there something I’m not aware of(like excessive Lender  fees?)
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They are famous for the bait and switch.   They have the worst reputation in the industry by far.
3/2/2020 1:33:34 PM EDT
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They are famous for the bait and switch.   They have the worst reputation in the industry by far.
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I saw several people saying Quicken (Rocket mortgage) was bad or not competitive

I'm locked at 2.75%

Is there something I'm not aware of(like excessive Lender  fees?)
They are famous for the bait and switch.   They have the worst reputation in the industry by far.
Mortgage broker here. I can vouch for this as well.

You're giving some good advice in this thread, my friend.  The T bill is below 1.1 now and I'm seeing par rates in the 2's all over the place for 15 yr fixed.  Crazy days ahead.
3/2/2020 1:56:56 PM EDT
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I am locked in with Semper at 2.75 but also found out Navy Federal will match it or give me $1k. So I my try to stay put.
3/2/2020 3:48:44 PM EDT
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Thank you for the info in this thread. Called Corrina and so far it looks like she can save me 10k in closing costs over Rocket and still get me the 2.75%
3/2/2020 3:53:02 PM EDT
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Reading through the other thread where people talk about their 1980s mortgages is eye opening.
3/2/2020 4:34:31 PM EDT
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Mortgage broker here. I can vouch for this as well.

You're giving some good advice in this thread, my friend.  The T bill is below 1.1 now and I'm seeing par rates in the 2's all over the place for 15 yr fixed.  Crazy days ahead.
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I saw several people saying Quicken (Rocket mortgage) was bad or not competitive

I'm locked at 2.75%

Is there something I'm not aware of(like excessive Lender  fees?)
They are famous for the bait and switch.   They have the worst reputation in the industry by far.
Mortgage broker here. I can vouch for this as well.

You're giving some good advice in this thread, my friend.  The T bill is below 1.1 now and I'm seeing par rates in the 2's all over the place for 15 yr fixed.  Crazy days ahead.
Thank you sir.
3/2/2020 4:38:00 PM EDT
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Thank you for the info in this thread. Called Corrina and so far it looks like she can save me 10k in closing costs over Rocket and still get me the 2.75%
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That is fantastic!   Going to post this on our mortgage discussion page.   It's unbelievable how they get away with charging our veterans what they do.

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