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2/24/2020 10:02:41 PM EDT
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How much was the refinance charge?
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Zero, thanks to having a disability rating.  No funding fee
2/24/2020 10:02:47 PM EDT
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I just refinanced my VA loan from 3.75 to 3.00
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same.   went from 4.25 to 3.25
2/24/2020 10:08:58 PM EDT
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Zero, thanks to having a disability rating.  No funding fee
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How much was the refinance charge?
Zero, thanks to having a disability rating.  No funding fee
I fucking did not know that, nor did the twat waffle that serviced my refi say fuck all about that.

god fucking damnit.  I guess big lenders are fucking vets over.  thanks rocket
2/24/2020 10:13:34 PM EDT
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I fucking did not know that, nor did the twat waffle that serviced my refi say fuck all about that.

god fucking damnit.  I guess big lenders are fucking vets over.  thanks rocket
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How much was the refinance charge?
Zero, thanks to having a disability rating.  No funding fee
I fucking did not know that, nor did the twat waffle that serviced my refi say fuck all about that.

god fucking damnit.  I guess big lenders are fucking vets over.  thanks rocket
The VA will refund it if you paid one and didn't need to.  You can call them, but they'll probably do it automatically.
2/24/2020 10:28:53 PM EDT
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Anyone have links to places offering these? Currently have 3.625 on a 30yr va loan. Only had it 2 years but wouldn’t mind exploring options
2/24/2020 10:43:39 PM EDT
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No, but if you have a claim in, they'll refund it later once you get a rating.
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I’m over the hump but nowhere near retirement. Can I claim it in 8 years?
2/24/2020 10:45:26 PM EDT
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Loans United had me at 3, Veterans Choice at 3.125
2/24/2020 10:50:35 PM EDT
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I’m a mortgage broker. I’ve closed three VA streamline refis in the last week. They were around 2.9%. To do an IRRL (interest rate reduction loan], you need to reduce your rate by a minimum of .5%, and you have to recoup the costs within 36 months.  You have to be at least 210 days into your current loan and made six on time payments. The funding fee on an IRRL is .5%. They’re quick, simple, cheap, and easy loans to do. All three of the loans I closed recently were closed in one week from the application date.
If anyone in Missouri is looking to do one, hit me up

In my opinion, 2.5% isn’t going to happen. Not without paying some fees. VA will allow up to two discount points to be charged. If you go that route, you’re not going to be able to hit your 36 month recoupment test.
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How does Veterans United compare to what mortgage brokers can find?
2/24/2020 11:03:49 PM EDT
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You should not have to pay the fee with 10%.  I am at that, and have never paid the fee.

Glad I saw this thread, I am at 3.25% right now, but if I can go down to 3 with no fees, it is worth it.
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I believe the VA requires that you reduce your interest-rate by at least .5% before they will let you refinance. You will need to find a 2.75%. They exist.
2/24/2020 11:05:11 PM EDT
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I fucking did not know that, nor did the twat waffle that serviced my refi say fuck all about that.

god fucking damnit.  I guess big lenders are fucking vets over.  thanks rocket
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How much was the refinance charge?
Zero, thanks to having a disability rating.  No funding fee
I fucking did not know that, nor did the twat waffle that serviced my refi say fuck all about that.

god fucking damnit.  I guess big lenders are fucking vets over.  thanks rocket
Not sure how rocket is getting away with the bullshit they pull but are horrible.   They are the definition of over promise and under deliver.  Sorry man!   I hate hearing that.
2/24/2020 11:13:03 PM EDT
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I’m a mortgage broker. I’ve closed three VA streamline refis in the last week. They were around 2.9%. To do an IRRL (interest rate reduction loan], you need to reduce your rate by a minimum of .5%, and you have to recoup the costs within 36 months.  You have to be at least 210 days into your current loan and made six on time payments. The funding fee on an IRRL is .5%. They’re quick, simple, cheap, and easy loans to do. All three of the loans I closed recently were closed in one week from the application date.
If anyone in Missouri is looking to do one, hit me up

In my opinion, 2.5% isn’t going to happen. Not without paying some fees. VA will allow up to two discount points to be charged. If you go that route, you’re not going to be able to hit your 36 month recoupment test.
How does Veterans United compare to what mortgage brokers can find?
I would be very surprised if they can’t beat them.   Happy to refer you to someone there.

BTW.   It is illegal for me to take a penny for referring a client to another broker and no way would I put my license on the line.    But I don’t want to see anyone get screwed by companies like Quick or Rocket so happy to put people in touch with other brokers.
2/24/2020 11:14:24 PM EDT
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Anyone have links to places offering these? Currently have 3.625 on a 30yr va loan. Only had it 2 years but wouldn’t mind exploring options
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What state are you in?
2/24/2020 11:14:57 PM EDT
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I’m a mortgage broker. I’ve closed three VA streamline refis in the last week. They were around 2.9%. To do an IRRL (interest rate reduction loan], you need to reduce your rate by a minimum of .5%, and you have to recoup the costs within 36 months.  You have to be at least 210 days into your current loan and made six on time payments. The funding fee on an IRRL is .5%. They’re quick, simple, cheap, and easy loans to do. All three of the loans I closed recently were closed in one week from the application date.
If anyone in Missouri is looking to do one, hit me up

In my opinion, 2.5% isn’t going to happen. Not without paying some fees. VA will allow up to two discount points to be charged. If you go that route, you’re not going to be able to hit your 36 month recoupment test.
How does Veterans United compare to what mortgage brokers can find?
Honestly I don’t know what Veterans United has to offer. I will say that USAA doesn’t seem to be competitive to brokers. I don’t think I’ve ever lost a deal to USAA.
2/24/2020 11:17:47 PM EDT
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You should not have to pay the fee with 10%.  I am at that, and have never paid the fee.

Glad I saw this thread, I am at 3.25% right now, but if I can go down to 3 with no fees, it is worth it.
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The funding fee is graduated at 10% and greater down it's 1.25 -1.5% according to the website.

Do you have a service related disability?
2/24/2020 11:18:37 PM EDT
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And yes, any level of VA disability rating waives the funding fee.
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Thanks Josh
2/24/2020 11:47:33 PM EDT
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That is almost as broad of a question as what does a car cost.   Too many variables to know an exact figure without getting more into your specific situation.  If you want to send me an IM I can get you a close idea though.
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I just refinanced my VA loan from 3.75 to 3.00
How much was the refinance charge?
That is almost as broad of a question as what does a car cost.   Too many variables to know an exact figure without getting more into your specific situation.  If you want to send me an IM I can get you a close idea though.
That is a number.

a base C8 is $59K
w/tax $63,867.50

this is not an abstract idea
2/24/2020 11:48:37 PM EDT
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Zero, thanks to having a disability rating.  No funding fee
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Nice,
2/25/2020 12:12:18 AM EDT
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That is a number.

a base C8 is $59K
w/tax $63,867.50

this is not an abstract idea
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I just refinanced my VA loan from 3.75 to 3.00
How much was the refinance charge?
That is almost as broad of a question as what does a car cost.   Too many variables to know an exact figure without getting more into your specific situation.  If you want to send me an IM I can get you a close idea though.
That is a number.

a base C8 is $59K
w/tax $63,867.50

this is not an abstract idea
There is literally a half dozen factors that go into figuring the cost / rate.   No one can tell you a number with any accuracy without that info.
2/25/2020 12:35:47 AM EDT
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Look at bankrate. There are lenders advertising 2.75 right now.
2/25/2020 4:14:01 AM EDT
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I wish. My ex is riding on my VA loan at 2.85%, refusing to refinance for 7 years because "she can't afford a higher rate". That's left me screwed as I'm still on that note.
2/25/2020 4:34:34 AM EDT
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It's also waived for service connected disability.
https://www.va.gov/housing-assistance/home-loans/funding-fee-and-closing-costs/
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Hells yes!!!
2/25/2020 6:07:50 AM EDT
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NY
2/25/2020 7:18:40 AM EDT
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@carsandguns, what % is a typical brokers fee on VA refinance? If that is a possible question to answer. I get mailings all the time from places like Newday and others for the VA Streamline options. With this thread it's got me thinking as I am at 3.75% on my current VA loan.
2/25/2020 10:37:31 AM EDT
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There is literally a half dozen factors that go into figuring the cost / rate.   No one can tell you a number with any accuracy without that info.
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Ok,

I asked him what he paid, Right?

He responded Zero B/C of a VA rating.

So he paid Zero.

So when you say, "No one can tell you a number with any accuracy" can you tell him why he is wrong?
This is a real question, What am I missing? Is there a charge from a Broker or something?
2/25/2020 10:47:50 AM EDT
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I did a VA IRRL refinance from 5.5% to 3% recently, no appraisal or anything and I did it through my existing mortgage company.
2/25/2020 11:14:53 AM EDT
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Closing on a new home in two weeks.

VA loan. 3.25%, no points. No origination fee.

It pays to shop around.
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If OP can get something like this it would be better, the 3.0 advertised VA rates are typically 3.4% apr.  Bankrate shows Sebonic has 2.75% (2.894%) in my zip but I suspect its probably a bait and switch.
2/25/2020 12:40:34 PM EDT
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What are the IRRRL rates doing today?  There were many more listed yesterday to browse through.
2/25/2020 12:48:40 PM EDT
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Ok,

I asked him what he paid, Right?

He responded Zero B/C of a VA rating.

So he paid Zero.

So when you say, "No one can tell you a number with any accuracy" can you tell him why he is wrong?
This is a real question, What am I missing? Is there a charge from a Broker or something?
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Well, by zero I didn't mean "zero closing costs".  I didn't have an origination fee, nor did I pay points.  It was an IRRL so there was no appraisal or a lot of the other closing costs you'd normally see.

I think the largest part was the fee to the title company at 700 to 800 bucks.  I think there were about 1300 dollars in closing costs on a 340,000 dollar loan.
2/25/2020 6:11:34 PM EDT
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Ok,

I asked him what he paid, Right?

He responded Zero B/C of a VA rating.

So he paid Zero.

So when you say, "No one can tell you a number with any accuracy" can you tell him why he is wrong?
This is a real question, What am I missing? Is there a charge from a Broker or something?
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I guess I could have been more clear.

Typically there is very little lender fees with a VA loan but they can buy down the rate up to 1% without needing to get an appraisal,  but you still have misc other fees such as the title.  Depending on how long you have lived there you may get a discount on the title charges.

1. The date the original loan closed.  
2. The original loan amount.
3. The new loan amount.  
4. Term of the new loan.
5. Has the borrower added on to the home?  What about moving a fence or adding a swimming pool?   If so that could trigger the need for a new survey.  Is the home a lot and block or on acreage?   Lot and block appraisals are $300 or so while one on acreage can be in the thousands.  
6. Is their an HOA and do they have any fee's?  Typically they don't on a refi, but I have seen some that do.  
7. Does the county accept electronic filings or does it need to be done by courier?  That changes the cost of filing
8. Is the borrower delinquent on student loans or child support?   Both have to be current or its a deal killer.

I am probably forgetting a few things,  but my point was there is a lot of factors that go on behind the scenes when preparing an accurate quote.
2/25/2020 7:19:17 PM EDT
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Just locked in a IRRRL with 2.75%/30 year fixed, no points, very reasonable closing costs.

I could have waited to see if it will go lower but I'm pretty happy with those terms.  I wouldn't have gotten serious about it unless I had seen the two GD threads on it; thanks ARFCOM!
2/25/2020 8:02:31 PM EDT
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Just locked in a IRRRL with 2.75%/30 year fixed, no points, very reasonable closing costs.

I could have waited to see if it will go lower but I'm pretty happy with those terms.  I wouldn't have gotten serious about it unless I had seen the two GD threads on it; thanks ARFCOM!
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What irrrl?
2/25/2020 8:07:06 PM EDT
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What irrrl?
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https://www.va.gov/housing-assistance/home-loans/loan-types/interest-rate-reduction-loan/
2/25/2020 9:34:21 PM EDT
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Just locked in a IRRRL with 2.75%/30 year fixed, no points, very reasonable closing costs.

I could have waited to see if it will go lower but I'm pretty happy with those terms.  I wouldn't have gotten serious about it unless I had seen the two GD threads on it; thanks ARFCOM!
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Who'd you refi through?

I'm at 3.375 but all the mailers I've been getting are 2.9 or higher.
2/25/2020 9:48:49 PM EDT
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Who'd you refi through?

I'm at 3.375 but all the mailers I've been getting are 2.9 or higher.
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Yea, I just got off the phone with my mortgage guy and he seemed super excited about getting people 3.75 on a irrrl. Show me to a lower rate please. I cant find shit under 3.5
2/25/2020 10:07:55 PM EDT
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I closed on my new house in December with a 3.1% 30 year fixed VA mortgage.
2/25/2020 10:12:30 PM EDT
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OK
Doesn't say what level of disability.  e.g., I am at minimum 10%.
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Any level of disability.  You have to provide your disability letter from the VA to the lender.  I'm in process refinancing my 3/5 ARM to a 30 year fixed VA and just sent proof of disability to the credit union.
2/25/2020 10:26:36 PM EDT
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The VA funding fee is a killer.
It's PMI that's embedded in the mortgage so you pay on it for the life of the loan instead of, like PMI, which is dropped once you reach 80% LTV.
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2/25/2020 11:47:14 PM EDT
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That would be a downgrade from what I have.
2/26/2020 12:55:30 PM EDT
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I guess I could have been more clear.

Typically there is very little lender fees with a VA loan but they can buy down the rate up to 1% without needing to get an appraisal,  but you still have misc other fees such as the title.  Depending on how long you have lived there you may get a discount on the title charges.

1. The date the original loan closed.  
2. The original loan amount.
3. The new loan amount.  
4. Term of the new loan.
5. Has the borrower added on to the home?  What about moving a fence or adding a swimming pool?   If so that could trigger the need for a new survey.  Is the home a lot and block or on acreage?   Lot and block appraisals are $300 or so while one on acreage can be in the thousands.  
6. Is their an HOA and do they have any fee's?  Typically they don't on a refi, but I have seen some that do.  
7. Does the county accept electronic filings or does it need to be done by courier?  That changes the cost of filing
8. Is the borrower delinquent on student loans or child support?   Both have to be current or its a deal killer.

I am probably forgetting a few things,  but my point was there is a lot of factors that go on behind the scenes when preparing an accurate quote.
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Ok,

I asked him what he paid, Right?

He responded Zero B/C of a VA rating.

So he paid Zero.

So when you say, "No one can tell you a number with any accuracy" can you tell him why he is wrong?
This is a real question, What am I missing? Is there a charge from a Broker or something?
I guess I could have been more clear.

Typically there is very little lender fees with a VA loan but they can buy down the rate up to 1% without needing to get an appraisal,  but you still have misc other fees such as the title.  Depending on how long you have lived there you may get a discount on the title charges.

1. The date the original loan closed.  
2. The original loan amount.
3. The new loan amount.  
4. Term of the new loan.
5. Has the borrower added on to the home?  What about moving a fence or adding a swimming pool?   If so that could trigger the need for a new survey.  Is the home a lot and block or on acreage?   Lot and block appraisals are $300 or so while one on acreage can be in the thousands.  
6. Is their an HOA and do they have any fee's?  Typically they don't on a refi, but I have seen some that do.  
7. Does the county accept electronic filings or does it need to be done by courier?  That changes the cost of filing
8. Is the borrower delinquent on student loans or child support?   Both have to be current or its a deal killer.

I am probably forgetting a few things,  but my point was there is a lot of factors that go on behind the scenes when preparing an accurate quote.
ok that make a lot more sense.

one of my WO at work said he just refi with his leander and used a program called streamline. Do you know anything about that?
2/26/2020 11:12:47 PM EDT
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I just did the quick Rocket Mortgage deal and they offered me 3.125% (current is 3.875) on a 30 year IRRRL but they want $3100 in fees. My payment would be reduced quite a bit but they said I couldn't do a 20 year because the payment would increase. I think if I could find somebody with lower fees and maybe a little lower rate that the 20 year might work.

Can you negotiate with Rocket Mortgage/Quicken? Fees seem high based on what everybody says about IRRRL loans.
2/26/2020 11:40:12 PM EDT
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I just had Veterans United look at it, could possibly cut me from 3.75 to 3.125 -- but it would roll $12,500 in combined fees and 16 months of prepaid property tax into the mortgage  just to reduce it $30/m.

Fugghetaboutit.
2/26/2020 11:43:14 PM EDT
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2.75

Locked.
2/26/2020 11:45:15 PM EDT
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Guy I work with non va just  refied  at 3.00%
2/26/2020 11:45:57 PM EDT
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I posted the contact info for the lender that gave me a great deal yesterday in the .mil clubhouse.  Looking at the 10 year treasury tonight I bet you can still get 2.75% tomorrow...maybe even better.
2/26/2020 11:48:39 PM EDT
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I just had Veterans United look at it, could possibly cut me from 3.75 to 3.125 -- but it would roll $12,500 in fees into the mortgage

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Yeah, that’s garbage.  Definitely shop around.
2/27/2020 12:26:28 AM EDT
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I just had Veterans United look at it, could possibly cut me from 3.75 to 3.125 -- but it would roll $12,500 in combined fees and 16 months of prepaid property tax into the mortgage  just to reduce it $30/m.

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wow.  what the fuck.

Call up movement mortgage.  They're good to go.
2/27/2020 12:45:04 AM EDT
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Anyone in WA state know a good va loan company to chat with?

I'm at 4.375% atm with 420k outstanding so could probably save a bit.
2/27/2020 12:06:38 PM EDT
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I just did the quick Rocket Mortgage deal and they offered me 3.125% (current is 3.875) on a 30 year IRRRL but they want $3100 in fees. My payment would be reduced quite a bit but they said I couldn't do a 20 year because the payment would increase. I think if I could find somebody with lower fees and maybe a little lower rate that the 20 year might work.

Can you negotiate with Rocket Mortgage/Quicken? Fees seem high based on what everybody says about IRRRL loans.
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I did a call to rocket a few days ago, they offered me the same 3.125, but $3,900 in closing costs, on a $72K 15 year..
2/27/2020 12:08:44 PM EDT
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Rates seem pretty volatile.   However, on wednesday, I just did a 15yr VA refi using an Arfommer who does mortgages, and got 2.625% with $1300 in closing/fees.
2/27/2020 12:16:07 PM EDT
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We just refied for 3%

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