[ARCHIVED THREAD] - ARIZONA REGULATOR dropped America’s FRT in EE - Q&A ask the Inventor/Manufacturer (Page 17 of 21)
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It most certainly will pass the single function of the trigger rule or law. Look over the patent a little closer. I'll explain it to you: -when the trigger is pulled a round is fired, the bcg goes back, ejects a round and comes back forward via buffer & buffer spring -just before the bcg closes back into battery, the bcg engages with the top back of the paddle arm, which rotates/pivots forward and the bottom of the legs of the paddle engage the rear area of the trigger, forcing the rear of the trigger to pivot down. When the trigger pivots down it forces the actual trigger forward, pushing the user's finger forward. This is what causes the "reset" or "another" trigger action or pull. While at the same time the user is putting rearward pressure on the trigger causing the gun to fire again and repeat the process. The user can release the trigger and shoot single shot, burst, or aided reset. The mechanism is easily controlled. So this clearly shows how there are multiple functions of the trigger. The bottom of the paddle has two legs, not one solid piece, therefore the paddle legs straddle the disconnector. The paddle never touches the disconnector, the legs just straddle the disconnector and engage the rear of the trigger. |
I think we're gona need a truck load of popcorn at this point
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Quoted: It most certainly will pass the single function of the trigger rule or law. Look over the patent a little closer. I'll explain it to you: -when the trigger is pulled a round is fired, the bcg goes back, ejects a round and comes back forward via buffer & buffer spring -just before the bcg closes back into battery, the bcg engages with the top back of the paddle arm, which rotates/pivots forward and the bottom of the legs of the paddle engage the rear area of the trigger, forcing the rear of the trigger to pivot down. When the trigger pivots down it forces the actual trigger forward, pushing the user's finger forward. This is what causes the "reset" or "another" trigger action or pull. While at the same time the user is putting rearward pressure on the trigger causing the gun to fire again and repeat the process. The user can release the trigger and shoot single shot, burst, or aided reset. The mechanism is easily controlled. So this clearly shows how there are multiple functions of the trigger. The bottom of the paddle has two legs, not one solid piece, therefore the paddle legs straddle the disconnector. The paddle never touches the disconnector, the legs just straddle the disconnector and engage the rear of the trigger. And when should Arfcom expect to see such an ingenious device available? |
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Quoted: Honestly nothing is off the table It all come down to when I have time to get on the r&d cnc 249 is a personal gem I want so it will happen at some point. Straight up I want a beltfed in the back of an armored car. Why. Why the fuck not bwahahahah Scar I'm not a fan of the platform personally but that's just personal preference only. Would I work one out. Sure why not. Some of y'all love that thing and I see no reason for me not to get one on the bench at some point for you But that's way down the list. I won't forget it though it's literally a paper list on my desk of things you guys have asked for |
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Quoted: And a few defamation lawsuits Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Welcome to the thread for any and all FRTs to be discussed!  2 bans and a warning. And a few defamation lawsuits Nothing will happen it’s just a bunch of bullshit, posturing and purse swinging. Edit to add: And the op was dumb enough to post this in gd. |
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Quoted: Nothing will happen it’s just a bunch of bullshit, posturing and purse swinging. Edit to add: And the op was dumb enough to post this in gd. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Welcome to the thread for any and all FRTs to be discussed! 2 bans and a warning. And a few defamation lawsuits Nothing will happen it’s just a bunch of bullshit, posturing and purse swinging. Edit to add: And the op was dumb enough to post this in gd. You might have just got yourself a defamation lawsuit too |
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Quoted: It most certainly will pass the single function of the trigger rule or law. Look over the patent a little closer. I'll explain it to you: -when the trigger is pulled a round is fired, the bcg goes back, ejects a round and comes back forward via buffer & buffer spring -just before the bcg closes back into battery, the bcg engages with the top back of the paddle arm, which rotates/pivots forward and the bottom of the legs of the paddle engage the rear area of the trigger, forcing the rear of the trigger to pivot down. When the trigger pivots down it forces the actual trigger forward, pushing the user's finger forward. This is what causes the "reset" or "another" trigger action or pull. While at the same time the user is putting rearward pressure on the trigger causing the gun to fire again and repeat the process. The user can release the trigger and shoot single shot, burst, or aided reset. The mechanism is easily controlled. So this clearly shows how there are multiple functions of the trigger. The bottom of the paddle has two legs, not one solid piece, therefore the paddle legs straddle the disconnector. The paddle never touches the disconnector, the legs just straddle the disconnector and engage the rear of the trigger. Not sure what you are describing But that thing ain’t in this thread This thread is on the ARIZONA REGULATOR |
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This is the info I have published on mechanics and function Paste AZR-15 Mechanics / Function: The AZR-15 is engineered to be tough and durable it will force and torque its way thru the operation even if not set up properly and slightly binds / drags when you fire your AR. When properly set up you should not feel resistance from the AZR-15 in the gun when you slowly pull charging handle to rear without touching trigger. Requires full auto BCG - 5.0+ oz buffer (H3) for 5.56 – 10.0+ oz buffer for 9mm. You fire one shot by physically functioning the trigger. The BCG moves to the rear and engages the cams of the AZR-15. The AZR-15 cams move your trigger into the safe position where the hammer and trigger are able to reengage ensuring your gun cannot fire out of battery while also regulating your firing cycle to one shot per single function of the trigger. The BCG moves forward, once safely into battery the BCG disengages the cams of the AZR-15 allowing you to physically function the trigger again to fire the next single shot. |
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Quoted: You might have just got yourself a defamation lawsuit too Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Welcome to the thread for any and all FRTs to be discussed! 2 bans and a warning. And a few defamation lawsuits Nothing will happen it’s just a bunch of bullshit, posturing and purse swinging. Edit to add: And the op was dumb enough to post this in gd. You might have just got yourself a defamation lawsuit too 
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Quoted: OP do you know if this will work in the Ares Fightlite belt fed upper and a standard lower? I don’t own one but have been seriously considering getting one and your device seems like it would be perfect to pair with a belt fed. Field reports in Tenesee state that they have been running in Flightlite for almost a year I have not done it myself The man that has been running it is one of the proving grounds men I send things to now and then I do not doubt his runs like a raped ape as he states |
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I never said that That’s propaganda machine content right there |
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Quoted: Another vote for the SCAR16s - My 10" is one of my favorites to shoot, with the Giselle trigger in it... do it please! I almost bought one of the scar pistols the other day Didn’t since I do t know a lot about the platform and was not positive the internals etc are the same in it Probably are but would have to verify for myself they are internally the same I’d do one version but a bunch of versions/variables that would have to have their own rendition for scar platform isn’t something I’m interested in |
| The PA10 carrier is cut to the correct length for an AR10. However, there is a vertical difference between an AR10 and AR15 (carrier rear OD) that prevents the Arizona Regulator FRT from functioning. The top lever/flag, once down, is too low to contact the rear of the carrier when traveling forward into battery. Unfortunately, This isn't as simple as just reducing the length of the lower leg or modifying the disconnector. |
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Quoted: The PA10 carrier is cut to the correct length for an AR10. However, there is a vertical difference between an AR10 and AR15 (carrier rear OD) that prevents the Arizona Regulator FRT from functioning. The top lever/flag, once down, is too low to contact the rear of the carrier when traveling forward into battery. Unfortunately, This isn't as simple as just reducing the length of the lower leg or modifying the disconnector. Nailed it Field reports state the AR10 is not within the AR15 Mil-Spec enough to work But they also let us know that the LR 308 pattern is good to go I have not touched either of them but your mechanical assessment of the difference in AR10 matches what they told me man |
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Quoted: The PA10 carrier is cut to the correct length for an AR10. However, there is a vertical difference between an AR10 and AR15 (carrier rear OD) that prevents the Arizona Regulator FRT from functioning. The top lever/flag, once down, is too low to contact the rear of the carrier when traveling forward into battery. Unfortunately, This isn't as simple as just reducing the length of the lower leg or modifying the disconnector. That said my prior post I could probably work out the AR10 based on the info we already have No guarantee but I’ll look at it at some point after CMMG 22LR Kit |
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Quoted: I never said that That’s propaganda machine content right there Quoted: Quoted: I never said that That’s propaganda machine content right there ROFLMAO. Dude you seriously need to seek mental help. Sure, I have no evidence that you ever "said" (or posted) "YOU GET A DEFAMATION SUIT! EVERYBODY GETS A DEFAMATION SUIT!" but you'll notice that I never claimed it was a quote from you - for fuck's sake it's a meme! Numerous other posters in this (and it feels like every FRT-related) thread have also called you on your veiled threats of lawsuits, so let's not pretend they're anything else. If you'd like a few examples of the kind of threatening Cracker Jack box "lawyer" nonsense you've spouted, here are some from this and other threads: Quoted: Your assessment is flawed at best and would seem to be intent on creating defamatory information about my product line Stop while you are ahead and before you potentially created a claim that could cause me substantial damages.... Quoted: Only here which would indicate that it is an intent to defame thing Quoted: Push it and see where it goes...... Quoted: Paid promotion of defamatory presents is way bad. That’s another follow the money thing. Not to mention all could wind up also being coconspirators. I and many others have said we LIKE your product, and we support your business, but this kind of childish and unprofessional behavior is a huge detriment to you. Dissenting opinions, requests for help with products you list as "drop-in compatible", etc are frequently met with disdain, convoluted claims of conspiracies, and/or veiled threats. You sit here (in a thread in General Discussion) complaining about disucssions of any products other than yours, then post in threads devoted to other products about how yours are superior. You all but claimed Geissele were conspiring with Rare Breed against you. The list of unprofessional and borderline unsane behavior goes on and on. Seriously, as a legitimately concerned observer, get help!!! Get mental help for your paranoia and anger issues, get public relations help for your company, and get legal help (from an actual lawyer) for both before you motormouth your way into a real legal case. |
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Quoted: Ok, dumb question- where does one happen to get a 10oz buffer ? I used the law valley tungsten one in the 9mm Picked that one since I surfed around and saw some completion guys post elsewhere that they had good results using it Others may be fine as long as the weights rattle so you get legit dead low effect Even though I call for 10+oz in 9mm folks have used others with success. I just made mine work and gave that info 9mm Configuration specifics are covered below. This is how we did it with what we had on hand. Every 9mm blow back setup is different. Upper brand should not make any difference as long as its machined to Colt upper specs which the majority of AR uppers are to Colt specs. Another brand bolt or buffer/spring should not matter as long as the bolt has the same or very similar bottom profile as a normal 5.56/.223 FA BCG and the buffer is heavy enough to eliminate bolt bounce. _______________________ _______________________ ARIZONA REGULATOR Setup in video running 9mm: We used the same standard 5.56 A2 rifle lower that we had been using for the 5.56 development. Pulled the 5.56 Colt upper, buffer, and buffer spring. Pinned on a 16" Colt 9mm upper with a Foxtrot Mike Colt style mag BCG part # FMC-9BCG. Dropped in a Kaw Valley Precision 10 oz tungsten carbine buffer part # KVP-10oz and Kaw Valley Precision XP carbine buffer spring part # KVP-PCC-XP-Spring. Installed the proper length spacer configuration to take up the extra space in the rifle buffer tube to accommodate the shorter carbine buffer and get the bolt catch to work properly without having excess rearward travel when the bolt locks to the rear when the mag is empty. Ran a Mean Arms Endomag 9mm mag conversion kit with built in ejector in a PMAG 30 marked AR/M4 GEN M3 part # MAG557-MCT. _______________________ _______________________ Short barrel 9mm Pistol Upper Note: When running a short barrel 7.5 inches with a suppressor we had to go to a standard weight carbine buffer spring. 7.5" Yankee Hill Machine 9mm Upper Foxtrot Mike Colt Mags 9mm BCG Kaw Valley Precision 10 oz tungsten carbine buffer Standard carbine buffer tube Standard carbine buffer spring Bowers CAC9 Suppressor |
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Quoted: ROFLMAO. Dude you seriously need to seek mental help. Sure, I have no evidence that you ever "said" (or posted) "YOU GET A DEFAMATION SUIT! EVERYBODY GETS A DEFAMATION SUIT!" but you'll notice that I never claimed it was a quote from you - for fuck's sake it's a meme! Numerous other posters in this (and it feels like every FRT-related) thread have also called you on your veiled threats of lawsuits, so let's not pretend they're anything else. If you'd like a few examples of the kind of threatening Cracker Jack box "lawyer" nonsense you've spouted, here are some from this and other threads: I and many others have said we LIKE your product, and we support your business, but this kind of childish and unprofessional behavior is a huge detriment to you. Dissenting opinions, requests for help with products you list as "drop-in compatible", etc are frequently met with disdain, convoluted claims of conspiracies, and/or veiled threats. You sit here (in a thread in General Discussion) complaining about disucssions of any products other than yours, then post in threads devoted to other products about how yours are superior. You all but claimed Geissele were conspiring with Rare Breed against you. The list of unprofessional and borderline unsane behavior goes on and on. Seriously, as a legitimately concerned observer, get help!!! Get mental help for your paranoia and anger issues, get public relations help for your company, and get legal help (from an actual lawyer) for both before you motormouth your way into a real legal case. Case closed |
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Quoted: Such a cool product. Too bad I live in a shitty state. Maybe in the next couple years folks can band together and force states like that to abide by the Constitution It’ll be a mess to get that all straightened out since it’s actually a state violation of the 14th by means of infringing on the 2nd Iirc Thomas or Scalia explained the 14th to the 2A tie but I can’t remember what Scotus writing that was in off the top of my head |
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Quoted: No guarantee but I’ll look at it at some point after CMMG 22LR Kit I went out to test my printed trip today and had nothing but problems. Turns out I broke my firing pin. Apparently the firing pin and firing pin spring are wear items and tend to break as early as 500rds. I got about 3-5K before mine broke. Attached File CMMG offers a bolt rehab kit that includes all of the wear items. https://cmmg.com/bolt-rehab-kit-22lr-ar-conversion |
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Quoted: Nailed it Field reports state the AR10 is not within the AR15 Mil-Spec enough to work But they also let us know that the LR 308 pattern is good to go I have not touched either of them but your mechanical assessment of the difference in AR10 matches what they told me man Quoted: Quoted: The PA10 carrier is cut to the correct length for an AR10. However, there is a vertical difference between an AR10 and AR15 (carrier rear OD) that prevents the Arizona Regulator FRT from functioning. The top lever/flag, once down, is too low to contact the rear of the carrier when traveling forward into battery. Unfortunately, This isn't as simple as just reducing the length of the lower leg or modifying the disconnector. Nailed it Field reports state the AR10 is not within the AR15 Mil-Spec enough to work But they also let us know that the LR 308 pattern is good to go I have not touched either of them but your mechanical assessment of the difference in AR10 matches what they told me man I'm taking about a LR308. The raceway inside of every large frame AR upper receiver is larger than a AR15. The tail of the carrier is the same diameter as a AR15 because they us the same receiver extensions. Years back a friend was making post sample DIAS's for LR308 AR10s. The sear was longer above the pin to catch the BCG. It's been so long I forgot why they needed to be different. |
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Quoted: I'm taking about a LR308. The raceway inside of every large frame AR upper receiver is larger than a AR15. The tail of the carrier is the same diameter as a AR15 because they us the same receiver extensions. Years back a friend was making post sample DIAS's for LR308 AR10s. The sear was longer above the pin to catch the BCG. It's been so long I forgot why they needed to be different. The carrier location vertically is what seems to be the main difference between the AR10 pattern bs LR308 As you mentioned the LR308 appears to be in the correct location While the AR10 is a little higher in location But what you described as a needed adjustment sounds correct from the conversation I had down here on those platforms I’ll look at it at some point after I do the CMMG 22LR thing |
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Quoted: I went out to test my printed trip today and had nothing but problems. Turns out I broke my firing pin. Apparently the firing pin and firing pin spring are wear items and tend to break as early as 500rds. I got about 3-5K before mine broke. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/435954/20250608_145127_jpg-3559030.JPG CMMG offers a bolt rehab kit that includes all of the wear items. https://cmmg.com/bolt-rehab-kit-22lr-ar-conversion I have a solid basis on what creates some of the overall issues with that I remembered you were working with a printed thing to use with the 22 kit good to see you got some forward momentum There’s a couple things that I’m going to do different when I get into working the 22lr When I’m done it has to be as reliable as the kit is normally and also has the be as reliable as running our units in 5.56 like we do now man That’s one Im looking forward to making. I like to create new things but my time right now is limited till I get more staff on hand to take care of the office, phone, etc |
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Quoted: ROFLMAO. Dude you seriously need to seek mental help. Sure, I have no evidence that you ever "said" (or posted) "YOU GET A DEFAMATION SUIT! EVERYBODY GETS A DEFAMATION SUIT!" but you'll notice that I never claimed it was a quote from you - for fuck's sake it's a meme! Numerous other posters in this (and it feels like every FRT-related) thread have also called you on your veiled threats of lawsuits, so let's not pretend they're anything else. If you'd like a few examples of the kind of threatening Cracker Jack box "lawyer" nonsense you've spouted, here are some from this and other threads: I and many others have said we LIKE your product, and we support your business, but this kind of childish and unprofessional behavior is a huge detriment to you. Dissenting opinions, requests for help with products you list as "drop-in compatible", etc are frequently met with disdain, convoluted claims of conspiracies, and/or veiled threats. You sit here (in a thread in General Discussion) complaining about disucssions of any products other than yours, then post in threads devoted to other products about how yours are superior. You all but claimed Geissele were conspiring with Rare Breed against you. The list of unprofessional and borderline unsane behavior goes on and on. Seriously, as a legitimately concerned observer, get help!!! Get mental help for your paranoia and anger issues, get public relations help for your company, and get legal help (from an actual lawyer) for both before you motormouth your way into a real legal case. You're obsessed with OP. It's kind of worrying. You should talk to someone about this. |
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Quoted: You’ll need to remove the sear block (if there is one) and make sure you have a full auto cut bolt carrier. If I remember correctly, factory colt rifles have semi auto carriers. I've purchased maybe six factory Colt rifles (AR15A4 and LE6920s) since 2015 and all came with the M16 bolt carriers. I assume that's what Colt uses these days. |
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Quoted: This is a single function of the trigger item, look over the patent more carefully. I’m going to take an educated guess this is your patent, judging from the join date and North Carolina location matching the patent. Do you plan on becoming an industry partner on the site and sharing details? I’m not sure how much info you can give with the basic membership. |
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Quoted: I used the law valley tungsten one in the 9mm Picked that one since I surfed around and saw some completion guys post elsewhere that they had good results using it Others may be fine as long as the weights rattle so you get legit dead low effect Even though I call for 10+oz in 9mm folks have used others with success. I just made mine work and gave that info 9mm Configuration specifics are covered below. This is how we did it with what we had on hand. Every 9mm blow back setup is different. Upper brand should not make any difference as long as its machined to Colt upper specs which the majority of AR uppers are to Colt specs. Another brand bolt or buffer/spring should not matter as long as the bolt has the same or very similar bottom profile as a normal 5.56/.223 FA BCG and the buffer is heavy enough to eliminate bolt bounce. _______________________ _______________________ ARIZONA REGULATOR Setup in video running 9mm: We used the same standard 5.56 A2 rifle lower that we had been using for the 5.56 development. Pulled the 5.56 Colt upper, buffer, and buffer spring. Pinned on a 16" Colt 9mm upper with a Foxtrot Mike Colt style mag BCG part # FMC-9BCG. Dropped in a Kaw Valley Precision 10 oz tungsten carbine buffer part # KVP-10oz and Kaw Valley Precision XP carbine buffer spring part # KVP-PCC-XP-Spring. Installed the proper length spacer configuration to take up the extra space in the rifle buffer tube to accommodate the shorter carbine buffer and get the bolt catch to work properly without having excess rearward travel when the bolt locks to the rear when the mag is empty. Ran a Mean Arms Endomag 9mm mag conversion kit with built in ejector in a PMAG 30 marked AR/M4 GEN M3 part # MAG557-MCT. _______________________ _______________________ Short barrel 9mm Pistol Upper Note: When running a short barrel 7.5 inches with a suppressor we had to go to a standard weight carbine buffer spring. 7.5" Yankee Hill Machine 9mm Upper Foxtrot Mike Colt Mags 9mm BCG Kaw Valley Precision 10 oz tungsten carbine buffer Standard carbine buffer tube Standard carbine buffer spring Bowers CAC9 Suppressor Quoted: Quoted: Ok, dumb question- where does one happen to get a 10oz buffer ? I used the law valley tungsten one in the 9mm Picked that one since I surfed around and saw some completion guys post elsewhere that they had good results using it Others may be fine as long as the weights rattle so you get legit dead low effect Even though I call for 10+oz in 9mm folks have used others with success. I just made mine work and gave that info 9mm Configuration specifics are covered below. This is how we did it with what we had on hand. Every 9mm blow back setup is different. Upper brand should not make any difference as long as its machined to Colt upper specs which the majority of AR uppers are to Colt specs. Another brand bolt or buffer/spring should not matter as long as the bolt has the same or very similar bottom profile as a normal 5.56/.223 FA BCG and the buffer is heavy enough to eliminate bolt bounce. _______________________ _______________________ ARIZONA REGULATOR Setup in video running 9mm: We used the same standard 5.56 A2 rifle lower that we had been using for the 5.56 development. Pulled the 5.56 Colt upper, buffer, and buffer spring. Pinned on a 16" Colt 9mm upper with a Foxtrot Mike Colt style mag BCG part # FMC-9BCG. Dropped in a Kaw Valley Precision 10 oz tungsten carbine buffer part # KVP-10oz and Kaw Valley Precision XP carbine buffer spring part # KVP-PCC-XP-Spring. Installed the proper length spacer configuration to take up the extra space in the rifle buffer tube to accommodate the shorter carbine buffer and get the bolt catch to work properly without having excess rearward travel when the bolt locks to the rear when the mag is empty. Ran a Mean Arms Endomag 9mm mag conversion kit with built in ejector in a PMAG 30 marked AR/M4 GEN M3 part # MAG557-MCT. _______________________ _______________________ Short barrel 9mm Pistol Upper Note: When running a short barrel 7.5 inches with a suppressor we had to go to a standard weight carbine buffer spring. 7.5" Yankee Hill Machine 9mm Upper Foxtrot Mike Colt Mags 9mm BCG Kaw Valley Precision 10 oz tungsten carbine buffer Standard carbine buffer tube Standard carbine buffer spring Bowers CAC9 Suppressor Any differences in loads? |
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Quoted: I’m going to take an educated guess this is your patent, judging from the join date and North Carolina location matching the patent. Do you plan on becoming an industry partner on the site and sharing details? I’m not sure how much info you can give with the basic membership. Quoted: Quoted: This is a single function of the trigger item, look over the patent more carefully. I’m going to take an educated guess this is your patent, judging from the join date and North Carolina location matching the patent. Do you plan on becoming an industry partner on the site and sharing details? I’m not sure how much info you can give with the basic membership. With all the NFA dias out there you probably won’t see that thing being made That’s a lot of “prior art” to avoid They can start their own thread to promote their product though |
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JD, I received your MBT regulator today. Are they in fact only designed for 2 stage MBTs? It didn't do anything at all in two of my guns with 1 stage Larue MBT triggers. When I dropped it in a gun with a 2 stage MBT, it appears to function, at least while dry firing and hand cycling. The 1 stage MBT doesn't have material coming up in the back to engage the short leg on your device. Anyhow, it seems like you're taking a bit of a beating in this thread right now, I just want to say keep on making awesome stuff. I'll be test firing tomorrow, but I think I'll be well pleased. I will 100% be buying your 3 position device, made for the Geissele SSA when it comes out. |