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1/13/2024 12:59:04 AM EDT
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Wtf?    I don’t think I’ve ever seen one of those, and I’ve read a few..
..hundred thousand..

go on


I just mean I’ve read many notams.   My whole life has been spent reading Notams, and Arfcom.   Equally worthless, but at least I kinda get paid for the former.
1/13/2024 1:07:41 AM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/A5EF5AEB-79E9-4B27-9503-13E5087976BC_jpe-3092078.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/2A07B021-716D-4305-A253-91ECD827DFA7_jpe-3092079.JPG



ATTENTION ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING IN THE VICINITY OF KWAJALEIN
ATOLL. FOR YOUR SAFETY OVERFLIGHT OF THE ISLAND NORTH OF THE RWY IS PROHIBITED. THIS IS CONSIDERED A HAZARDOUS AREA WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR LOSS OF LIFE. ALL ARRIVALS AND DEPARTURES MAKE SOUTH TRAFFIC ONLY TO AVOID EXTREME RADIATION HAZARDS. CONTACT BASE OPERATIONS ON
126.2 WITHIN 50NM OF KWAJALEIN
AAFCONTACT BASE OPS PRIOR TO DEPARTURE TO DECONFLICT WITH RADIATION HAZARD.
NOTAM ID: A5483/23 (KZAK)

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Anyone else read all that with the song "Godzilla" by "Blue Oyster Cult" running through their head?  
1/13/2024 1:10:40 AM EDT
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Maybe, but RADAR's don't emit ionizing radiation.

eta:  Any military sniffer would detect the PRF and center freq of a RADAR.
1/13/2024 1:11:04 AM EDT
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SkyKing SkyKing…do not answer…
1/13/2024 1:13:38 AM EDT
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Weak reception on 8992. Is that what you heard?
1/13/2024 1:14:53 AM EDT
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Are you wondering about the orca on the ship rescued from the cult too?


If you know, you know.

If not, disregard.
1/13/2024 1:15:22 AM EDT
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Do you taste metal?
1/13/2024 1:15:39 AM EDT
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwajalein_Atoll

Current use by U.S. military
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Short-term accommodations at the "Kwaj Lodge" showing typical Kwajalein housing construction
Kwajalein and Roi-Namur are the main islands used by the U.S. personnel. Provision is made for family housing. Personnel whose family members are not with them live in hotel room style housing.

Testing sites
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Of the 97 islands, 11 are leased by the United States. They are part of the Ronald Reagan Ballistic Missile Defense Test Site (RTS), formerly known as Kwajalein Missile Range. The lease is active from 2006 to 2066, with an option to renew for another 20 years.[58] Leased islands include Kwajalein, Meck, Eniwetak, Omelek, Gellinam, Gagan, Ennugarret, and Roi-Namur on the eastern side of the atoll and Ennylabegan, Legan, and Illeginni on the western side.[59]

RTS includes radar installations, optics, telemetry, and communications equipment, which are used for ballistic missile and missile-interceptor testing, and for space operations support.[citation needed] Kwajalein island hosts the $914 million Space Fence radar, which tracks satellites and orbital debris.[60] Kwajalein has one of five ground stations used in controlling the RTS range, which also assist in the operation of the Global Positioning System (GPS) navigation system.[a]

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1/13/2024 1:15:59 AM EDT
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Weird….

We once lit off multiple megatons per month down there.
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I don't think that they ever lite up Kwajalein up.
1/13/2024 1:16:46 AM EDT
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwajalein_Atoll

Current use by U.S. military

Short-term accommodations at the "Kwaj Lodge" showing typical Kwajalein housing construction
Kwajalein and Roi-Namur are the main islands used by the U.S. personnel. Provision is made for family housing. Personnel whose family members are not with them live in hotel room style housing.

Testing sites

Of the 97 islands, 11 are leased by the United States. They are part of the Ronald Reagan Ballistic Missile Defense Test Site (RTS), formerly known as Kwajalein Missile Range. The lease is active from 2006 to 2066, with an option to renew for another 20 years.Leased islands include Kwajalein, Meck, Eniwetak, Omelek, Gellinam, Gagan, Ennugarret, and Roi-Namur on the eastern side of the atoll and Ennylabegan, Legan, and Illeginni on the western side.

RTS includes radar installations, optics, telemetry, and communications equipment, which are used for ballistic missile and missile-interceptor testing, and for space operations support.[citation needed] Kwajalein island hosts the $914 million Space Fence radar, which tracks satellites and orbital debris. Kwajalein has one of five ground stations used in controlling the RTS range, which also assist in the operation of the Global Positioning System (GPS) navigation system.
1/13/2024 1:18:10 AM EDT
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The enviromentalist have been claiming the nuke waste storage place is leaking for the last 10 years at least . Maybe it really is .

Excellent point


lol that's not how nuclear waste leaks
1/13/2024 1:19:09 AM EDT
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amazing how man can fuck up a beautiful place like that.
1/13/2024 1:22:38 AM EDT
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Thanks. It’s very clear.

If a flyover can cause death then everyone on the island is dead. Unless it’s another form like radar like someone mentioned.
1/13/2024 1:22:47 AM EDT
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But why just the north half of the island? If it was radiation wouldn't it also spread to the other half of the island? Or does the wind only blow one way out there?
1/13/2024 1:33:06 AM EDT
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This.
Radioactive materials tend not to be directional.
1/13/2024 1:35:15 AM EDT
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There was a report of a vault breach a day or two ago.  I'd guess it's related to that.

ETA: Reading the description more closely, it's probably just some radar testing.
1/13/2024 1:38:09 AM EDT
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The term "Radiation" covers a lot of ground.
It could mean gamma radiation, x-rays, am radio, or the beam of a flashlight.
They are all the same thing with different frequencies and energy levels.
1/13/2024 1:55:08 AM EDT
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Space Fence?
1/13/2024 1:55:18 AM EDT
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Maybe, but RADAR's don't emit ionizing radiation.

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Radar can still cook you good and fry electronic equipment.
1/13/2024 2:21:22 AM EDT
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Complete guess, but the way it comes across makes me think it might be some kind of directed energy weapon tests. Which would be inline with a missile defense test site.

Google "laser driven proton beam" for some light reading...
1/13/2024 2:25:55 AM EDT
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https://notams.aim.faa.gov/notamSearch/nsapp.html#/details
1/13/2024 2:28:53 AM EDT
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I see OP and our favorite Texan newsjockey are in a competition to see who can make more errors. Bottery shenanigans
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Checks who OP is…yep.
1/13/2024 2:30:56 AM EDT
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Why would they be using a nuke sniffer to sniff radar?  For that matter what kind of RADAR could fry a planes electronics at 50nm and altitude?
1/13/2024 2:36:55 AM EDT
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OSINTdefender now reporting it.
1/13/2024 3:11:11 AM EDT
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The enviromentalist have been claiming the nuke waste storage place is leaking for the last 10 years at least . Maybe it really is .
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Any Rad waste in disposal facility or containment apparatus is monitored daily, or per shift. Any leakage AT ALL is addressed immediately.
1/13/2024 3:16:39 AM EDT
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Thanks. It’s very clear.

If a flyover can cause death then everyone on the island is dead. Unless it’s another form like radar like someone mentioned.
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Thanks. It’s very clear.

If a flyover can cause death then everyone on the island is dead. Unless it’s another form like radar like someone mentioned.


Pretty much. Any active source that can cause issues at flight altitudes is basically on par with an active uncovered reactor core (Chernobyl) or an actual open air blast.

Gotta wonder what the fuck they're testing though that can output enough energy to be a threat to nearby aviation...
1/13/2024 3:21:23 AM EDT
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Probably read it here.
1/13/2024 3:22:26 AM EDT
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We should drop our most powerful nucular bomb in the Marianas trench and detonate for science.
1/13/2024 4:55:23 AM EDT
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Nothing to see here...

The radiation hazard is almost certainly from a bigass radar.  

Here is a news report about the same thing in California in 2004.
https://www.avweb.com/briefs/radiation-notam-confusing/

Here is a document about NOTAM radiation alerts from a Falcon1 SpaceX launch.  (who also launches from Kwajalein.)
https://spacex.com.pl/files/2017-10/final-spacex-falconprogram-ea-27sept07.pdf?188398639a

3.1.2.1 Region of Influence
The region of influence for airspace at USAKA/RTS includes the airspace over and surrounding
the proposed launch site on Omelek, the launch hazard area, debris containment corridor,
potential regional radiation hazard areas, and airspace over and surrounding Kwajalein, and
Meck.

Not all that uncommon.

1/13/2024 5:11:12 AM EDT
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NOTAM #: 10/209 (KFLL-A2611/23)
Start Date UTC: 10/27/2023 1159
End Date UTC: 04/12/2024 1600

!FLL 10/209 FLL AD AP DBAL-A3 ACTIVITY INCREASED 2310271159-2404121600EST
POSSIBLY RELATED TO PIG HUNT.
1/13/2024 5:12:44 AM EDT
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Complete guess, but the way it comes across makes me think it might be some kind of directed energy weapon tests. Which would be inline with a missile defense test site.

Google "laser driven proton beam" for some light reading...
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I'm with Gamma on this i believe so sort of laser or directed beam test.
1/13/2024 5:17:48 AM EDT
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NOTAM #: 10/209 (KFLL-A2611/23)
Start Date UTC: 10/27/2023 1159
End Date UTC: 04/12/2024 1600

!FLL 10/209 FLL AD AP DBAL-A3 ACTIVITY INCREASED 2310271159-2404121600EST
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Are you attempting to demonstrate any particular point by posting a random NOTAM from a different hemisphere than the OP references?

Is there some link between a pig hunt in Fort Lauderdale and weapon system operations in the far Pacific?
1/13/2024 5:22:52 AM EDT
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1/13/2024 6:02:45 AM EDT
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I don't think your 172 has the legs to get there.
1/13/2024 8:30:47 AM EDT
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I'll let my CFI know tomorrow. I'd hate to end up in a bad spot.
I don't think your 172 has the legs to get there.


It’s a Diamond DA-20. It really does have a helluva glide rate.
1/13/2024 8:34:08 AM EDT
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Well, you heard the man

Better get my DJI Mavic away from that area
1/13/2024 8:40:03 AM EDT
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I used to have a neighbor that was an engineer at Raytheon and he overseeing the bearing change on that huge radar dish on Kwaj.  He was always going out there for something or other and said it was great out there.  Turned out the crazy fucker had another family out there!  I felt bad for his wife and sons, they were good people.
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Raytheon must actively recruit assholes. I’ve dealt with one before.
1/13/2024 9:35:16 AM EDT
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It is not well known outside of UFO circles. Kwajalein is the landing site for the Grey's from Sirius.  They return every eight years and seek to expand .gov contacts. It is isolated to the extent nobody can easily get there.  

The last thing anyone wants to be spotted is a 100 meter flying saucer....
1/13/2024 9:43:53 AM EDT
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1/13/2024 9:48:38 AM EDT
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That's awesome.

I cant believe we have an array that requires you shut everything off within 50km of a location or risk death :D

But then, The uninformed banter here really makes note of how far this site has slid.
1/13/2024 9:56:53 AM EDT
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I just mean I’ve read many notams.   My whole life has been spent reading Notams, and Arfcom.   Equally worthless, but at least I kinda get paid for the former.
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Worthless? You mean you don’t spend time agonizing about an unlit 200 foot antenna 8.7 miles from the airport?  
1/13/2024 10:04:50 AM EDT
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That's awesome.

I cant believe we have an array that requires you shut everything off within 50km of a location or risk death :D

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Not sure if this is sarcasm but given the inverse square law applies to radio waves that would be one hell of a transmitter to be dangerous at 50nm.   Like warming up the atmosphere to an obvious and dramatic extent.

Either a bs cover for something else, massive ionizing radiation release...which seems unlikely but I don't know what's stored there, or a directed energy test of some type.
1/13/2024 10:15:53 AM EDT
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Tracking North Korea long range tests?



1/13/2024 10:16:14 AM EDT
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https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/space-fence.html

The World’s Most Advanced Radar

In March of 2020 the United States Space Force (USSF) declared operational acceptance and initial operational capability of the Space Fence radar on the Kwajalein Atoll in the Republic of the Marshall Islands.

Space Fence, now the world’s most advanced radar, provides uncued detection, tracking and accurate measurement of space objects, including satellites and orbital debris, primarily in low-earth orbit (LEO). The new radar permits the detection of much smaller microsatellites and debris than current systems.  It also significantly improves the timeliness with which operators can detect space events.  The flexibility and sensitivity of the system also provides coverage of objects in geosynchronous orbit while maintaining the surveillance fence.

Before Space Fence, the Space Surveillance Network (SSN) tracked more than 20,000 objects.  Now, the catalog size is expected to increase significantly over time.  Space Fence also detects closely spaced objects, breakups, maneuvers and launches. According to the Space Force, the system is the most sensitive search radar in the SSN, capable of detecting objects in orbit as small as a marble in low Earth orbit (LEO).
1/13/2024 10:21:42 AM EDT
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Could be directed energy, a giant radar, or any of a number of military or scientific things.  
The docks are north of the runway so it could be something that is ship-based also.  

Low flying aircraft are a concern - The army has a few helicopters there to shuttle people and equipment around the atoll.  
1/13/2024 10:26:20 AM EDT
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Do those NOTAMS get updated?

These are currently on the page

M0009/24 NOTAMR M0179/23
Q) ZAK/QXXXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/0843N16743E005
A) PKWA
B) 2401072217
C) 2403062359
E) ALL ARRIVALS AND DEPARTURES MAKE SOUTH TRAFFIC ONLY TO AVOID EXTREME RADIATION HAZARDS. OVERFLIGHT OF THE ISLAND NORTH OF THE RWY IS PROHIBITED.

M0008/24 NOTAMR M0180/23
Q) ZAK/QXXXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/0843N16743E005
A) PKWA
B) 2401072216
C) 2403062359
E) CONTACT BASE OPERATIONS ON 126.2 WITHIN 50NM OF BUCHOLZ AAF. CONTACT BASE OPS PRIOR TO DEPARTURE DUE TO RADIATION HAZARD DECONFLICTION .

They don't have the "risk of immediate death" verbiage
1/13/2024 10:28:27 AM EDT
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Not great, not terrible
1/13/2024 10:29:28 AM EDT
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Raytheon must actively recruit assholes. I’ve dealt with one before.
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I used to have a neighbor that was an engineer at Raytheon and he overseeing the bearing change on that huge radar dish on Kwaj.  He was always going out there for something or other and said it was great out there.  Turned out the crazy fucker had another family out there!  I felt bad for his wife and sons, they were good people.


Raytheon must actively recruit assholes. I’ve dealt with one before.


Can confirm. I can proudly state that a Raytheon manager stated he would never renew my contract again. Cool, we mutually agree.
1/13/2024 10:35:12 AM EDT
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I searched for the NOTAM number from the initial rawsalert post and verified it is on the FAA site

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