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2/13/2021 11:33:50 AM EDT
I'm thinking of picking up a shotgun for competitions and mostly goose hunting in southern Minnesota.

I'm looking at the CZ1012 and I'm wondering if there is a magazine extension that is compatible with it on the market that will increase the capacity.
2/13/2021 11:40:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CA_TX-Cop][Edited] [#1]
Not sure about the CZ specifically, but in my experience they all have similar threads, it’s just a matter of finding out which thread the CZ matches too, and sometimes modifying the end of the mag tube.  There are some good videos on YT about modding Tristar, ATA, and a bunch of others.

Edit: just looked it up, it’s probably a Benelli thread.
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2/13/2021 12:14:21 PM EDT
[#2]
You might want to check shell limits on State and Federal Waterfowl hunting.
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2/13/2021 12:15:53 PM EDT
[#3]
If you increase the mag capacity beyond 5 rounds, the weapon will no longer be 922(r) compliant.
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2/13/2021 8:06:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KILLERB6:
If you increase the mag capacity beyond 5 rounds, the weapon will no longer be 922(r) compliant.
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So you’re saying if it has a mag capacity over 5 it’s banned from importation and would then be a violation of 922(r)?  I knew this applied to parts kits, not to complete firearms.
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2/13/2021 8:20:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TNZ71:
You might want to check shell limits on State and Federal Waterfowl hunting.
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2/13/2021 8:23:36 PM EDT
[#6]
If they make one for your gun, Nordic is the tube you want
"Holy shit that is way way less work than pushing a wet shit through a tube like I just did" @Kuraki
2/13/2021 9:05:35 PM EDT
[#7]
That's where I was headed.  

Is there a limit on the capacity allowed for competition?  I'm pretty new to the competition stuff.

I'm pretty sure that theres no limit on capacity where I would end up shooting.

I'll double check before buying anything though.  

Great advise thanks.
2/13/2021 9:10:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GuyfromMN:  That's where I was headed.  

Is there a limit on the capacity allowed for competition?  I'm pretty new to the competition stuff.

I'm pretty sure that theres no limit on capacity where I would end up shooting.

I'll double check before buying anything though.  

Great advise thanks.
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Uh, it's been a 3 shell capacity since the 1930's in the US.  Is Minnesota about to leave the Union?
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2/13/2021 9:22:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GuyfromMN][Edited] [#9]
Ah.  Forgot about the hunting aspect of my o.p.  

I'll get a plug for when I go hunt.
2/13/2021 9:25:49 PM EDT
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As stated, Nordic should have it.  You can turn one up on a lathe.  My uncle made one for his 870, just like my Choate one.
Well, isn't this a fine kettle of fish.
2/14/2021 4:00:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KILLERB6][Edited] [#11]
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Originally Posted By CA_TX-Cop:


So you’re saying if it has a mag capacity over 5 it’s banned from importation and would then be a violation of 922(r)?  I knew this applied to parts kits, not to complete firearms.
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Correct:  the weapon can't be altered to an unimportable configuration (i.e. mag cap >5 in this case) without reducing the foreign parts count to 10 (or less).

If this were not the case, then 922(r) would be essentially worthless:  import in a legal configuration and then convert to an illegal configuration.
After 15 years, my war in Afghanistan has ended...
2/14/2021 8:00:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KILLERB6:

Correct:  the weapon can't be altered to an unimportable configuration (i.e. mag cap >5 in this case) without reducing the foreign parts count to 10 (or less).

If this were not the case, then 922(r) would be essentially worthless:  import in a legal configuration and then convert to an illegal configuration.
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So like with an AK, change the choke (muzzle device), magazine follower, mag spring, the mag end cap( which you are already replacing with the tube), and your remaining parts are the receiver, bolt, barrel, stock, fore-end, trigger group, recoil assembly, and... which is less than 10.

??
A closed mouth gathers no foot.

Official Site Nickname, given by NorCal - "Smack"
2/14/2021 8:46:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KILLERB6:  Correct:  the weapon can't be altered to an unimportable configuration (i.e. mag cap >5 in this case) without reducing the foreign parts count to 10 (or less).

If this were not the case, then 922(r) would be essentially worthless:  import in a legal configuration and then convert to an illegal configuration.
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922(r) is worthless.  It's still not clear to me if the enforcement provisions of 922(r) apply only to importers & licensed manufacturers, or all middle-Americans.
Well, isn't this a fine kettle of fish.
2/14/2021 11:54:27 PM EDT
[#14]
Another recommendation for Nordic Components. I added their 4-round tube to my 870P, very nice parts and finish.
2/16/2021 11:00:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CA_TX-Cop:

So like with an AK, change the choke (muzzle device), magazine follower, mag spring, the mag end cap( which you are already replacing with the tube), and your remaining parts are the receiver, bolt, barrel, stock, fore-end, trigger group, recoil assembly, and... which is less than 10.

??
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Sort of:  you have to get an ATF parts list for that specific weapon and reduce from there; the parts lists aren't generic.
After 15 years, my war in Afghanistan has ended...
2/16/2021 11:01:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


922(r) is worthless.  It's still not clear to me if the enforcement provisions of 922(r) apply only to importers & licensed manufacturers, or all middle-Americans.
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The law is clear:  it states that you cannot import a non-sporting weapon and you cannot create a weapon that would otherwise be prohibited from importation.
After 15 years, my war in Afghanistan has ended...
2/17/2021 12:52:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KILLERB6][Edited] [#17]
Double post.
After 15 years, my war in Afghanistan has ended...
3/28/2021 11:18:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


922(r) is worthless.  It's still not clear to me if the enforcement provisions of 922(r) apply only to importers & licensed manufacturers, or all middle-Americans.
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Fuck around and your dog will find out.
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3/30/2021 6:01:12 PM EDT
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Does anyone know of a single person prosecuted under 922R? I have asked ATF agents that I know and their answer is no. Just my .02

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