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3/20/2026 10:54:14 PM EDT
Sup folks? I’ve been shooting IDPA quite a long time now and I stink HaHa. That’s neither here nor there I’m afraid. I’ve mostly used a M&P full size, G34 and a 92fs Inox but my best scores were always with a .45 REM R1 Enhanced with a 10 round magazine. All things considered I’ve never been much good. I’ve always shot iron sights but then I thru a Holosun EPS on a Shield and one on a P365 XL and my paper targets at the range got substantially better.
Well I just picked up a M&P 2.0 Competitor and I’m definitely throwing a dot on it and I’m probably going to go with another Holosun because I like the ones I have and the price is ok and I don’t know any better. I was thinking the direct fit SCS MP2, 507k or an EPS full size. I’m used to the enclosed MRS set-up that has a 6 MOA.
I guess my question is what do most people who run the Competition put on for a red dot and what MOA they/you prefer? 2 or 6? Do you run with it as a single dot and a 62 MOA circle to get on target more quickly and is anyone using the chevron reticle. What other considerations should I take into account?
I’m sorry that this is only my second post and could be a book but this seemed like the place to find out some opinions and experience in my quandary. THANKS!
3/23/2026 9:45:52 PM EDT
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I like the looks of the Holo 407 Comp with a 6moa dot although I don’t have one yet.
3/27/2026 8:40:10 PM EDT
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Been running the 407 Comp for both IDPA and USPSA for about 16 months now, can't complain. I would also look at the Vortex Defender XL, it's another solid optic and I like the serrations on the front which aid with racking.
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3/31/2026 11:32:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Never_A_Wick][Edited] [#3]
507 Comp or Vortex Defender XL.

I have used both on my M&P with good success.

I do prefer the slightly larger dot of the Vortex, so you could also look at the 407 Comp if you don't mind the absence of the Circle option in the reticle.
3/31/2026 11:38:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RegolithForge:
Been running the 407 Comp for both IDPA and USPSA for about 16 months now
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How is that possible when Holosun debuted it at SHOT 2026?
4/2/2026 10:50:15 AM EDT
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I have a 507 Comp on an M&P and tried a new green one on my 2011. Did not like the green so I put my SRO on the 2011 and have not looked back. I like the 507COMP in red fine.
I think the Vortex Defender would be a good choice as well.
I prefer a 3 MOA dot and nothing else. I loose accuracy when I shoot 6 MOA and the big Holosun circle really distracts me.

Find someone at a match with the dot you think you want and convince them to let you play with it in the safety area (or actually shoot it).
4/2/2026 12:35:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JSG:
I have a 507 Comp on an M&P and tried a new green one on my 2011. Did not like the green so I put my SRO on the 2011 and have not looked back. I like the 507COMP in red fine.
I think the Vortex Defender would be a good choice as well.
I prefer a 3 MOA dot and nothing else. I loose accuracy when I shoot 6 MOA and the big Holosun circle really distracts me.

Find someone at a match with the dot you think you want and convince them to let you play with it in the safety area (or actually shoot it).
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I’m pretty certain you can turn the circle off on the models with that feature, so you just have a dot.

I don’t like the circle either, but I do find it useful for steel challenge.
4/3/2026 2:33:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick:


I’m pretty certain you can turn the circle off on the models with that feature, so you just have a dot.

I don’t like the circle either, but I do find it useful for steel challenge.
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You can turn it off. I have a 507 COMP. Didn't even realize it had other reticles besides a basic dot until I switched it on accident. I don't think you can go wrong with that or Vortex Defender XL. I've been running both.
4/3/2026 3:55:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By billygoat69:

You can turn it off. I have a 507 COMP. Didn't even realize it had other reticles besides a basic dot until I switched it on accident. I don't think you can go wrong with that or Vortex Defender XL. I've been running both.
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I have used and like both pretty equally but I like Vortex as a company a lot better, and their warranty and service are the best out there.  Plus they do a lot locally by sponsoring major marches with giveaways and they also hold winter matches at their indoor range facility which is about 45 minutes from me.

I have also used and like the SRO.  Mine went over 50,000 rounds without failure, and then I sold it to a a guy and it’s still going.
4/3/2026 10:05:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JSG:
I have a 507 Comp on an M&P and tried a new green one on my 2011. Did not like the green so I put my SRO on the 2011 and have not looked back. I like the 507COMP in red fine.
I think the Vortex Defender would be a good choice as well.
I prefer a 3 MOA dot and nothing else. I loose accuracy when I shoot 6 MOA and the big Holosun circle really distracts me.

Find someone at a match with the dot you think you want and convince them to let you play with it in the safety area (or actually shoot it).
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... yes you can change the recticle very easily on the Holosun from 3 moa dot to 3 moa dot with big circle or just the big circle. I use it exclusively on the 3 moa dot.
I agree and prefer not to buy chinese so if the Vortex works for you, more power to you. I have the smaller Vortex on a 44 mag Ruger and it has held up fine.
4/8/2026 8:14:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick:


How is that possible when Holosun debuted it at SHOT 2026?
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Originally Posted By RegolithForge:
Been running the 407 Comp for both IDPA and USPSA for about 16 months now


How is that possible when Holosun debuted it at SHOT 2026?


https://www.instagram.com/p/DPXZmH-jWqP/?img_index=1

It's a 507C, my bad, same window less dot configurations...
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4/9/2026 10:22:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RegolithForge:


https://www.instagram.com/p/DPXZmH-jWqP/?img_index=1

It's a 507C, my bad, same window less dot configurations...
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That makes sense.  I thought maybe you had early access to stuff or something
4/9/2026 10:34:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU][Edited] [#12]
I prefer the SCS for the direct mount, lower profile.
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5/25/2026 6:44:49 PM EDT
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I like the extras that come with Vortex XL. Not enough to make me purchase additional plates and swap them on my other 2 pistols. Owning  both of them I would buy the vortex going forward.

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