Something new for the Benelli M1/M2 (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/2/2019 1:33:48 AM EDT
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Check this out. This ought to come in real handy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjxoCz5XNn8 |
| Besides the A5 already mentioned, I think the FN SLP has the auto load feature. Josh, according to the vid, is working on a lifter for other SG's like the Steoger, Breda, etc. Don't remember if the Mossberg is one of those. See what he says at the end of the vid. |
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I wonder if that part will also work on the Beretta 1200/1201 series as they use the same mechanism.
I couldn't find an email for them, just a facebook link so I sent them a message there. I will report back if I get an answer. |
Anytime someone starts with "I support the 2nd and own guns myself but..." it is code for I mean the exact opposite and now I'm going to say something stupid and untrue.
I've had the MOA Lightning Lifter in my RAS Benelli M2 for a few weeks now. It does what it is advertised to do.
 MOA Precision Benelli M2 Lightning Load Lifter |
Steve Rose
"Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks"
Thomas Jefferson - 1785
"Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks"
Thomas Jefferson - 1785
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Originally Posted By GunCat:
I've had the MOA Lightning Lifter in my RAS Benelli M2 for a few weeks now. It does what it is advertised to do.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg5Sre5BB0ICan you load the magazine and keep the chamber empty or flagged? I have no idea how these work, so sorry if it’s a stupid question. I asked because we prepare for a shotgun stage with the magazine loaded and a flagged chamber. On line we can load the chamber. I need to pre order a couple, but I would like to see the difference in price and performance between the two options. Both seem to be a beneficial modification. |
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Originally Posted By RLR350: That is cool. Can you load the magazine and keep the chamber empty or flagged? I have no idea how these work, so sorry if it’s a stupid question. I asked because we prepare for a shotgun stage with the magazine loaded and a flagged chamber. On line we can load the chamber. I need to pre order a couple, but I would like to see the difference in price and performance between the two options. Both seem to be a beneficial modification. |
Steve Rose
"Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks"
Thomas Jefferson - 1785
"Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks"
Thomas Jefferson - 1785
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Originally Posted By GunCat: You can load the mag tube with the bolt closed on an empty chamber, then open the bolt and insert a chamber flag...same as the stock guns operate. I didn’t pay enough attention to your video. Realizing the bolt was locked back at the start makes sense. Looks like I’ll be spending some money. |
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Originally Posted By TomMcC:
Well the Kenney lifter is $198 and ready for pre order...what a disappointment. Maybe someday. |
Steve Rose
"Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks"
Thomas Jefferson - 1785
"Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks"
Thomas Jefferson - 1785
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Originally Posted By GunCat: The Kenney kit is advertised as needing no modification to the trigger group housing where the MOA conversion does alter the trigger group. I assume this means the Kenney parts can be removed and the gun return to factory design whereas the MOA conversion cannot be undone. Might be worth something if you need to do so. ETA: Ordered. I’ll try to update this thread when it arrives. The estimate date is April/May. |
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When this was announced I had just taken possession of a TTi lifter. https://www.j-kenny.com/product/lifter/ I will probably order one seeing as I just got my A&S enhanced trigger guard and it would most likely compliment that installation. |
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Originally Posted By TomMcC:
I emailed them again yesterday 5/7. Now they're saying 3-4 more weeks because of a delay at the tooling company. At least they are still communicating, but things are starting to go sideways it seems. I would go MOA as I have a bunch of their stuff but they don't have an ETA either on their auto lifters. |
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I emailed them on 5/5/19. Got the same reply this morning:
“Hi there, our latest estimate is 3-4 weeks. This is due to delays by the tooling company. The testing is complete and we have our finalised lifters, we are just waiting for the mass production to begin. As soon as we have the mass production in our hands, we will begin shipping them immediately.” |
| I’m standing by with cash in hand. Once I hear of them actually shipping, I’ll order. |
""Surely something must be terribly wrong with a man who seems to be far more concerned with a Jew building a house in Israel than with a Muslim building a nuclear bomb in Iran."
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Originally Posted By RLR350:
I happened to glance at their Facebook page today and saw a message they posted yesterday. In short, they had some delays due to perfecting the item. At most it will be 4-5 weeks, sometime in July. At earliest 2 weeks, but don't get your hopes up. I saw the FB post too. Quite a long one. The good news is that they are still communicating and sound quite sincere. I'm hopeful. I was really hoping to have it for our next couple of 3guns...but oh well. See you next sat. |
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Placed an order today. $198.44 plus shipping. Est 3-4 day delivery international air shipping. |
""Surely something must be terribly wrong with a man who seems to be far more concerned with a Jew building a house in Israel than with a Muslim building a nuclear bomb in Iran."
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Anyone get tracking info?
Here's an install video intermission while you wait for your order to arrive.  How to install the J Kenny & Co. Auto Loading Lifter |
""Surely something must be terribly wrong with a man who seems to be far more concerned with a Jew building a house in Israel than with a Muslim building a nuclear bomb in Iran."
Oooh, I get to be "that guy"?
Got mine last week, used it in a fun multi gun match today. Fired 65 rounds... had 8 malfunctions, shells hanging up while chambering. 
I've had this gun 9, maybe 10 years? Lord knows how many thousands of rounds, shotgun matches, 3-gun matches, sporting clays and trap. In all that I've had a total of 5 malfunctions until today. 
I guess I'm going to have to waste a lot of ammo making it malfunction, so hopefully I can diagnose the issue. That's the problem with matches, no time to stop and look at what happened. |
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Mine arrived last Thursday. I’ve been out of town and haven’t had time to install it yet.
My M2 has the full TTI race package on it. Just a quick visual comparison. The new lifter is a good 1/2” shorter than the TTI version which has been welded and extended to remove the thumb biting pickle fork tip. Curious to see how this performs. |
""Surely something must be terribly wrong with a man who seems to be far more concerned with a Jew building a house in Israel than with a Muslim building a nuclear bomb in Iran."
| I was surprised to see that it was short... I guess I should say, not longer, and not flat nosed. Even with that, I'm thinking the nose of my shells are coming up too high. (sort of like is common when you have a factory carrier extended, before you give the nose a little roll) |
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Originally Posted By TomMcC:
Besides the A5 already mentioned, I think the FN SLP has the auto load feature. Josh, according to the vid, is working on a lifter for other SG's like the Steoger, Breda, etc. Don't remember if the Mossberg is one of those. See what he says at the end of the vid. |
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Interdasting...
Here's the jam... without a shell in it. If I work the bolt slow enough it will hold the bolt open. 
That trigger group in another gun, I can feel some resistance, but it won't hang up. I'm hoping it's just a stacking tolerances issue. One thing for sure though, the carrier comes up a good deal higher than the factory one. |
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Originally Posted By cas:
Interdasting...
Here's the jam... without a shell in it. If I work the bolt slow enough it will hold the bolt open. http://photos.imageevent.com/cas6969/shmisc/websize/E6C765F5-3CFC-41AA-B930-449F6731B975.jpeg That trigger group in another gun, I can feel some resistance, but it won't hang up. I'm hoping it's just a stacking tolerances issue. One thing for sure though, the carrier comes up a good deal higher than the factory one. If you work the bolt slowly on an empty M2 in factory configuration the bolt will often hang up too. It is caused by the lifter dog wedging into the cut in the bottom of the bolt. It only happens when the gun is empty and the bolt cycled slowly. Neither situation (empty or slowly) comes into play when the gun is fired and cycling. |
Steve Rose
"Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks"
Thomas Jefferson - 1785
"Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks"
Thomas Jefferson - 1785
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I installed my lifter kit in my HK marked M1 S90. The gun is now totally non-functional. I verified it's installed correctly per the video they put out. I have emailed them. What a disappointment.
Monday 8/5...still nothing from them. |
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Originally Posted By TomMcC:
Did what the video said. Over shot the bending and the bolt wouldn't lock. Worked it back until the bolt locked and the gun is oh so close to 100% auto loading. Talked to Kenney, they said shoot it a bunch and it should seat in and be 100%...so I am. Is that "fix it" video available on YT, or can you send it to me? I have several of JK auto parts here and I bet I will run into your issue sooner or later. Thanks |
Steve Rose
"Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks"
Thomas Jefferson - 1785
"Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks"
Thomas Jefferson - 1785
| FWIW.... my half way hang up issue went away after swapping some parts with another gun. In hand cycling dummy rounds I was still getting a nose dive malfunction. (I don't know which I was getting during the match, no time to check obviously) Usually that's a sign of a tired carrier spring, but it's pretty new. I changed it anyway. No nose dives hand cycling, so fingers crossed. Hopefully later in the week I'll get to the rang to test it. I just hate dumping rounds for no reason, trying to make it jam. |