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6/11/2020 10:57:22 AM EDT
I’m not in competition world of competitive shooting anymore. I was just wondering if anybody is shooting rifles  competitively with suppression.

(1) Is there an option In the league of competition?

(2) what type of cans are you using?

(3) what are the things you consider the factors are in choosing a suppressor for in the competition arena?

(4) What “brand and make” will you be trying next?

6/11/2020 11:09:12 AM EDT
[#1]
usually not allowed as the timer may not pick up the shots
6/11/2020 11:13:31 AM EDT
[#2]
A shot timer will pick up suppressed rifle shots, but you are putting a large weight at the end of your rifle with no performance gains over a good muzzle break.  3 gun and 2 gun matches are typically “gamer focused” and rely on fast times and great hits.
6/11/2020 11:17:24 AM EDT
[#3]
I can see where that might be I concern. But I was wondering do the fact that many in the short (K) configurations aren't as silent.
6/11/2020 12:25:36 PM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By mban2:
A shot timer will pick up suppressed rifle shots, but you are putting a large weight at the end of your rifle with no performance gains over a good muzzle break.  3 gun and 2 gun matches are typically “gamer focused” and rely on fast times and great hits.
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This. I see them from time to time, but for training value, not competitive advantage.
6/11/2020 12:28:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Unless something changed shooting suppressed puts you in open class.
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6/11/2020 12:32:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Unless something changed in recent times, all 3 gun matches I shot had limitations on the size of any muzzle device.  This eliminated cans as an option.
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6/11/2020 12:42:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: reelserious][Edited] [#7]
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Originally Posted By mban2:
A shot timer will pick up suppressed rifle shots, but you are putting a large weight at the end of your rifle with no performance gains over a good muzzle break.  3 gun and 2 gun matches are typically “gamer focused” and rely on fast times and great hits.
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not subsonic 300 BLK
6/11/2020 2:05:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StealthyBlagga][Edited] [#8]
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Originally Posted By carbine_red:
Unless something changed shooting suppressed puts you in open class.
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Most 3-Gun rules have a carve out for suppressors allowing them in all divisions.
6/11/2020 2:06:30 PM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By kyreb:
Unless something changed in recent times, all 3 gun matches I shot had limitations on the size of any muzzle device.  This eliminated cans as an option.
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Nope - see above
6/11/2020 2:08:31 PM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By reelserious:

not subsonic 300 BLK
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Use of such a load in a 3-Gun match would be very uncommon, but a good RO would still catch the shots. I’ve even done it with suppressed subsonic PCCs - the good standard for silence.
6/11/2020 7:17:28 PM EDT
[#11]
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Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:


This. I see them from time to time, but for training value, not competitive advantage.
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Got it.   I understand practice,  but theres no specific leag for suppressor competition?  I'd thought by now since they're becoming more prolific; maybe the industry would be sponsoring some sort of event.  Seems like competition brings out the best in innovation along with recognition.
6/13/2020 2:34:36 AM EDT
[#12]
I second Stealthy.  You can shoot a can in USSL and as an RO I know I gotta be close to get the time.  You need to know before, that I will be in your face to get the time though. Run that can!
6/13/2020 3:07:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Millennial][Edited] [#13]
I see no reason to.

Makes the weapon longer, front heavy, more expensive, LPVO at higher mags will have decently bad mirage after about 10-15 quick shots, everyone's already wearing muffs, blue dump barrels melting to the can... all this and a brake that is 1/10th the price will still have better recoil mitigation.
If you want, I can show you how to make a bomb out of a roll of toilet paper and a stick of dynamite...
6/14/2020 12:21:29 PM EDT
[#14]
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Originally Posted By donnybrooks:
I second Stealthy.  You can shoot a can in USSL and as an RO I know I gotta be close to get the time.  You need to know before, that I will be in your face to get the time though. Run that can!
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Yea.  a 'stealth" compatition...  That would be awesome!

It  should be a specific category...  No need for those cheaters running with out suppression.
6/14/2020 12:24:23 PM EDT
[#15]
nope
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Phuc cancer

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8/5/2020 10:28:04 AM EDT
[#16]
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Originally Posted By reelserious:




not subsonic 300 BLK
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Originally Posted By reelserious:
Originally Posted By mban2:
A shot timer will pick up suppressed rifle shots, but you are putting a large weight at the end of your rifle with no performance gains over a good muzzle break.  3 gun and 2 gun matches are typically “gamer focused” and rely on fast times and great hits.




not subsonic 300 BLK



Nobody uses subsonic 300 BLK for 3 gun.
8/16/2020 4:50:51 PM EDT
[#17]
I run a very defensive oriented two gun match.  People frequently run supressed rifles.

RO has to be up on them as they finish the stage.
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7/13/2021 9:49:26 AM EDT
[#18]
Originally Posted By US_American:
I'm not in competition world of competitive shooting anymore. I was just wondering if anybody is shooting rifles  competitively with suppression.

(1) Is there an option In the league of competition?

(2) what type of cans are you using?

(3) what are the things you consider the factors are in choosing a suppressor for in the competition arena?

(4) What "brand and make" will you be trying next?

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The gun range/club I belong to is pretty flexible...

They have a small "3 Gun" Comp nothing like or a grand as what you see on tv....
Its literally three stages. 1. Pistol, 2. Shot gun, 3. Rifle.

There is a table set up for each stage and when you approach to shot, you weapons will be laid out on each, ready for you to grab load and fire.
COF were pretty small, like:
8-10 rounds pistol.
4 rounds Shotgun
6 rounds Rifle
all providing zero misses

I've shot my 12" LaRue Stealth with Surefire 556RC, my 10.5" Noveske, same Can and my 9.5" BCM .300 Blk with Surefire 300 SPS w supers not subs, pretty sure the shot timer would not pick up.


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Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:
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7/13/2021 10:10:08 AM EDT
[#19]
Just shoot a stage with it then dump it into the barrel………. See what happens.

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