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8/24/2026 2:59:39 PM EDT
I'm considering going with a AP5-N for a pcc and parting with my CMMG banshee which has been a frt/kabuto host. I do have it set up with amphibian/c3junkies ARS, but not  the fixed ejector upper.


What says you internet? Stick to the banshee or gamble with a mp5 clone ?
8/24/2026 4:17:27 PM EDT
[#1]
Get the AP5.

AS Designs should have a drop in cassette FRT soon.

How is NOT getting an MP5 even an option?
"That pistol just kept saying, let go of my ears, you don't know what you're doing." - thehellbringer
8/24/2026 7:04:31 PM EDT
[#2]
Why not both?  
I have FA MP5s and FE Banshees I've built.  Rarely shoot the MP5s
8/25/2026 12:16:39 AM EDT
[#3]
A tuned Banshee FE is a thing of beauty.  I'm so over the German engineering and gun worship - and I'm half German!  Most HK stuff is cool, but overrated.
8/25/2026 9:25:14 AM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By amphibian:
Why not both?  
I have FA MP5s and FE Banshees I've built.  Rarely shoot the MP5s
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I can only justify one at this point.
8/25/2026 9:27:12 AM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By emccracken:
A tuned Banshee FE is a thing of beauty.  I'm so over the German engineering and gun worship - and I'm half German!  Most HK stuff is cool, but overrated.
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Mines not a fixed ejector. May or may not go that route with a new upper. It’s old style with spring ejector.

Just want a good frt and suppressor host. So far it’s been good but I wonder what may be better.
9/2/2026 4:37:14 PM EDT
[#6]
No experience with Banshee, but have been shooting MP5s since the early 90s.

All PCC are compared to the MP5.  I think the answer is in that statement.
9/9/2026 4:15:30 PM EDT
[#7]
I had a Kuna, PTR 9CT and the PSA ARV.

I put a Maxim recoil reduction buffer in the ARV.  After that the ARV and the PTR were both lighter shooting faster back on target than the Kuna so I sold mine.

I bet the Banshee may be lighter recoil than Kuna.

just my $.02
9/9/2026 4:36:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: amphibian][Edited] [#8]
I'm having so much fun tuning the FE Banshee using magnets and Eddy currents with NO 'traditional buffer'.

The picture below is a single N52 magnet inside a 3D printed 'puck' that is sticking to the back of my lightened carrier.  Below that is a 25lb wave spring that sits between the magnet and the carrier but is positioned below since it is hard to get the magnet to behave when taking pictures.  The 25lb wave spring is sandwiched by two spacers I made that prevent the spring from going solid height.  The purpose of the 25lb spring is to stop carrier bounce for FA / FRT / SS use where the mass of the magnet is double duty handling that as well as the magnetic breaking from the Eddy currents.  I also have a long spacer I made at the end of the spring to prevent the key from hitting the lower.

See my website for the details.  https://c3junkie.com/?page_id=4254

Many want to hate on the buffer tube but I love it so you can leverage all these great ideas.







MP5's can't shoot this slow....and if you like the 850RPM range of the MP5, it is easy to make the Banshee shoot at that rate as well.  Extremely tune-able.
9/10/2026 7:02:59 PM EDT
[#9]
You do know where you are right?


the answer is always both!

9/10/2026 7:21:22 PM EDT
[#10]
If you must part ways, then whatever...

For me,
Here I am sitting in my Jurassic park t-shirt, waiting for my FFL to call me so I can go pick up my Spas 12 clone...


MP5 all day long.  
9/11/2026 12:15:57 PM EDT
[#11]
You probably won't get back what you put into it so l would just keep it.
At least that's how l feel about mine.
I've put too much time and money into mine.
9/11/2026 12:44:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GaryT1776:
No experience with Banshee, but have been shooting MP5s since the early 90s.

All PCC are compared to the MP5.  I think the answer is in that statement.
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Exactly, its like comparing tools to snap on, snap on is never compared to something else.

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