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Posted: 12/6/2023 10:15:40 PM EDT
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Even without electronic fire controls, PCP airguns are now capable of sub 0.5 MOA groups, and have velocity extreme spreads of less than 1 ft/s. With the electronic stuff, like what Daystate is putting into the various "Wolf" guns, these capabilities are just easier to obtain. There are now semi auto PCPs and even full auto ones as well which are more capable in the precision realm than the best guns of just 10 years ago. In addition, power has increased to the point where it is closely approaching .22 standard velocity in .22 caliber, and has met standard pistol velocities and energies in the "big bore" rifles. Obviously, as the current technology is better refined companies will be able to lower prices of guns which are capable of these current top level ones. With this in mind, what areas still need improvement? And, what kinds of competitions will drive innovation in that direction? Note: I've been attending the Extreme Benchrest matches since 2013, and have been watching the progress of the technology. Those matches have been a driving force for many of the improvements we now enjoy. But, I'm beginning to think that marked improvements may be waning. I hope folks can give insight on things I may be overlooking. |
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Originally Posted By FB41: Projectile design. Materials design for lighter weight. Advances in airgun optics. How do requirements for optics for air guns differ from those for centerfire? |
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Originally Posted By BearTrooper: Springer guns recoil different and are hard on scopes not rated to handle it But, any scope that is designed to handle a larger caliber with a brake will handle any spring gun. The forces are very similar. |
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Personally I'd like to see more high capacity semi auto PCPs. Like a higher quality Sig MCX PCP but blowback. I'd also really like to see micro PCP tanks develop. Something a bit bigger than a CO2 cartridge, that would fit in a pistol. You could charge up a few and go shoot. |
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Originally Posted By ArimoDave: But, any scope that is designed to handle a larger caliber with a brake will handle any spring gun. The forces are very similar. Originally Posted By ArimoDave: Originally Posted By BearTrooper: Springer guns recoil different and are hard on scopes not rated to handle it But, any scope that is designed to handle a larger caliber with a brake will handle any spring gun. The forces are very similar. Nope, the double recoil of a spring gun will kill the best of em' if not designed to take it. |
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Originally Posted By Mousegun: Nope, the double recoil of a spring gun will kill the best of em' if not designed to take it. Originally Posted By Mousegun: Originally Posted By ArimoDave: Originally Posted By BearTrooper: Springer guns recoil different and are hard on scopes not rated to handle it But, any scope that is designed to handle a larger caliber with a brake will handle any spring gun. The forces are very similar. Nope, the double recoil of a spring gun will kill the best of em' if not designed to take it. So will a AR10. The heavy bolt carrier is hard on optics. |
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Originally Posted By sparkyD: So will a AR10. The heavy bolt carrier is hard on optics. The negative acceleration of a muzzle brake on a magnum rifle are very similar to that of the piston being stopped by air compression. |
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You need a good airgun if you don't have one already.
You need a good airgun if you don't have one already.
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Originally Posted By motoguzzi: Maybe become more affordable, around $3k or more for a top PCP and then several hundred for the compressor, then the scope. It adds up quick. There are many sub $500 guns out there that would have been quite competitive in the Extreme Benchrest game just 8 years ago. The current $3000 guns are for those who wish to be competitive now in those games, plus those who demand the latest and greatest. They are not for everyday pesting, though more than capable of that. |
If I were a hedonist, I'd be a hermit.
You need a good airgun if you don't have one already.
You need a good airgun if you don't have one already.
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Originally Posted By ArimoDave: The negative acceleration of a muzzle brake on a magnum rifle are very similar to that of the piston being stopped by air compression. Now I’m wondering what kind of abuse an AR10 with a muzzle brake dishes out? Now back on topic. People also seem to overlook the scope bases on spring power air rifles. The screws sure take a beating. A tig welded base would be an improvement on some spring power air rifles. I wonder if the gas piston power plants will see some improvement? |
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Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats a good entry level pcp? I got the itch. I like my BSA Buccaneer better than my Umarex Origin. If I had it to do over I think I would choose the Air Venturi Avenger over the Origin. But when I dipped my toe into the PCP world you couldn’t find an Avenger or a Benjamin Marauder. |
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