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Posted: 8/9/2025 1:54:34 PM EDT
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ETA-Did some more search and it appears the guard that is on my Garand is the correct one. Early war they were forged, starting in 4/44 until the end of the war they were stamped like mine. I have a SA Garand, SN-333458x. Puts it around Nov ‘44. I was wondering what the correct trigger guard would be. Was told this one wasn’t correct at a Gunshow today. A picture of the correct one if you can, and any idea where to source a correct one if my current one is wrong. Thanks again for any help. Here’s the trigger guard on it…. " />Here’s the trigger group it’s on. " />
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| The switch to the stamped trigger guard began early 1944. Any rifle built for several months after could have either, as old stock was used up. There is a difference between wartime and postwar stamped trigger guards. Wartime ones had milled hooks and postwar had stamped hooks. Had to remove it from the rifle to see. |
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Originally Posted By Triggerstuck: So I checked, and see that my trigger guard is stamped, but no milled hook, so not right for my rifle. Fortunately, the solution is less than $50. https://i.postimg.cc/T17Kcn5X/IMG-0018.jpg Not a bad price for "correcting." But a lot of parts can be pricey in the correcting hobby. |
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Virtually all rifles were rebuilt over time, many of them several times over. I would not worry about making it "correct". It's correct as issued in my opinion. Exactly. Nearly all Garands were rebuilt at the depot or arsenal levels at some time and parts were replaced as needed based on correctly fitting replacement parts and the most update design of a part, not based on correct stamps or configurations. The common thread is the completed fully met military specifications for parts fit and accuracy. It's part of the history of the rifle, and when you start removing those parts to replace them with "correct" parts, you inevitably create a rifle with matching parts but questionable specifications and performance, and one that is no longer a "military issue" rifle. |
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Originally Posted By tsg68: A rifle that’s been “made” correct is a bit of a fraud, isn’t it? People appreciate old vehicles that are bought and rebuilt to the original specs. No real difference as long as its advertised as such. |
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: People appreciate old vehicles that are bought and rebuilt to the original specs. No real difference as long as its advertised as such. And therein lies the problem. Rebuilt cars are easy to spot. Rebuilt firearms are a lot harder. This was a huge fad in the carbine world twenty years ago. |
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Originally Posted By Ameshawki: And therein lies the problem. Rebuilt cars are easy to spot. Rebuilt firearms are a lot harder. This was a huge fad in the carbine world twenty years ago. Originally Posted By Ameshawki: Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: People appreciate old vehicles that are bought and rebuilt to the original specs. No real difference as long as it's advertised as such. And therein lies the problem. Rebuilt cars are easy to spot. Rebuilt firearms are a lot harder. This was a huge fad in the carbine world twenty years ago. In my eyes, it's only a problem if someone tries to sell the firearm as original when it's been rebuilt. But to each be his own. If that is not your jam, that's fine. |
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When I bought the gun (2008?), I knew nothing about the Garand. Consignment at a shop, advertised as an original ‘44. I always wanted one, so I bought it. Didn’t know the intricacies about how they’re pieced together over the years. keyboard button test" /> " /> dell laptop keyboard sticking" />The bore gauge measures 1. I’ll take the advise of you guys and just leave the trigger guard alone. I appreciate the responses. |
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Originally Posted By tsg68: A rifle that’s been “made” correct is a bit of a fraud, isn’t it? no, not at all. First you need to know what "correct" grade garand means. A correct grade is not a original rifle but a rifle that is in same configuration that it was when it left the factory. Saying it has the correct parts as manufactured Is a restored 57 Chevy a fraud? No, not unless it is represented as original |
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Originally Posted By Ameshawki: And therein lies the problem. Rebuilt cars are easy to spot. Rebuilt firearms are a lot harder. This was a huge fad in the carbine world twenty years ago. No problem at all, if rifle doesnt have provenance or you dont have the skills to tell if a rifle is original pass on it . No difference than any other collectable, you have to do your homework |
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Originally Posted By M1G: No problem at all, if rifle doesnt have provenance or you dont have the skills to tell if a rifle is original pass on it . No difference than any other collectable, you have to do your homework Unfortunately, I have no providence on this rifle. I can only wonder if this was used on Iwo, Okinawa, or any of the later Germany/Italy battles. It seems it’s almost a “Correct” rifle, but no telling by whom or when it was done. It functions perfectly and is fun to shoot. |
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Originally Posted By Triggerstuck: Unfortunately, I have no providence on this rifle. I can only wonder if this was used on Iwo, Okinawa, or any of the later Germany/Italy battles. It seems it’s almost a “Correct” rifle, but no telling by whom or when it was done. It functions perfectly and is fun to shoot. Originally Posted By Triggerstuck: Originally Posted By M1G: No problem at all, if rifle doesnt have provenance or you dont have the skills to tell if a rifle is original pass on it . No difference than any other collectable, you have to do your homework Unfortunately, I have no providence on this rifle. I can only wonder if this was used on Iwo, Okinawa, or any of the later Germany/Italy battles. It seems it’s almost a “Correct” rifle, but no telling by whom or when it was done. It functions perfectly and is fun to shoot. Shoot it and enjoy it. |
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| back in the days of $200 Garands at gun shows, there were always guys with big divided trays of garand parts. You would copy the relevant page for your rifle from Scott Duff's little book (about the only reference available then), and start digging through the parts, looking for the right drawing numbers. It was never a problem to find what you were looking for, and these guys had all the parts, including piles of inspector-marked stocks. It wasn't hard to put together a correct Garand then. The same sellers usually had bins of parts for M1 Carbines, M14s, and 1911s also. ahhh, the good old days... |
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