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Posted: 5/1/2026 8:04:19 AM EDT
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I got a whole bunch and I have no idea the color anybody have a brochure scanned or some info on these? I got new in wrapper, new, and used all the same color sage green? I can't find a spec sheet and also can't find what they fitAttached File |
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What does the plastic molding on the other side say? The old ones had M9, UM84 and “Universal” iirc on the back side. I regret selling mine to a friend still in the guard that just had to have it. Everyone needs a nearly universal gun bucket. |
The only hyphenated names I like are cartridge names......30-06, 30-40, 38-55 etc.
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Originally Posted By SteelonSteel: What does the plastic molding on the other side say? The old ones had M9, UM84 and “Universal” iirc on the back side. I regret selling mine to a friend still in the guard that just had to have it. Everyone needs a nearly universal gun bucket. Attached File but what color is this? |
have gun will travel
Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.
Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.
Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
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Originally Posted By JoeDevola: I'd call it sage green. I've been sort of wanting one of those for a while, for my long range patrol type belt kit. Would protect the pistol very well. thanks I was thinking sage green. I'm sorting them now and will put some of them on the EE. I have new in bag, new with paperwork, new, and used even some drop leg versions and of course I'm keeping a few  I'm trying to find out as many pistols that will fit |
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Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.
Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
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That's a unusual shade of green. I have UM-84s / M-9 holsters in "Tact-a-cooll Ninja Black" and good old Uncle Sam Green. That Light Sage Green is a first I've ever seen. Maybe to try to match ACU ? I've got tanker rigs, drop legs, shoulder holster conversion. You could mount them up all sorts of ways. One thing they all have in common is they have near zero retention. It would fit a Sig M-17 ... If you are extremely brave enough ...  Bigger_Hammer 
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+1 on it being a new one on me with that color. I wondered if it was supposed to be sage green or just the base color for that Army crappy ACU camo. I have a few commercial items in Ranger Green which I like but it’s much closer to OD than that grey green. Any Bianchi OD ones? Maybe you can google that NSN number on the bottom of the holster? Edit. Never mind those are patent numbers not NSN format at all. |
The only hyphenated names I like are cartridge names......30-06, 30-40, 38-55 etc.
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I think these are later USAF issue. The military specification for that holster has been inactive since 2013 and was unchanged since its original Inception in 1988. That means that design Will never be revised and the 1988 specification Is still valid to buy replacement ones. That should include the color shade, so i wonder if these are off the shelf orders. Were these bundled in packs of 20? Is the plastic back loop marked? EDIT: i saw the back marking and these don't comply with the military specifications, so i guess these are bought off the shelf for some USAF Security Forces squadrons maybe. |
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I can assure you that in early 2000 every Army PX still carried ALICE gear and everything was in that new color. I was surprised to see the Alice gear still being sold. At that time I had all the Alice gear issued to my dad (still have it) and when I went shopping at the local Military Clothing Sales shop back in 2006-2008 all the Alice gear was is sage green… I guess to better match the ACU camo. I can post pics of old vs new mag pouches once I get home ETA for pics This is a backup kit I put together with newer production gear.. the only old piece is the canteen pouch.      |
| I’m voting with the others that it’s some shade of gray/sage green to match UCP and ABU. Fortunately it should take RIT dye well. Not a terrible holster. If nothing lose it’ll fit most large frame autos. Unfortunately they won’t work with WML or red dots though. |
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Pages 17 and 18 in This link will be informative as to some of the various models/sizes of the Bianchi military holster, as well as some of the accessories in the system. I've seen Tan, Desert Camo, M-81 Woodland and all black leather versions as well as common black and O.D. nylon holsters. Sage Green is a new one on me. There "may" also be limited number runs of holsters in somewhat different colors/camos for foreign countries, but info is scarce on this. There is also a similar series of Revolver holsters, designated UM84R, which also use many of the same accessories. |
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Originally Posted By Frens: I can assure you that in early 2000 every Army PX still carried ALICE gear and everything was in that new color. I was surprised to see the Alice gear still being sold. At that time I had all the Alice gear issued to my dad (still have it) and when I went shopping at the local Military Clothing Sales shop back in 2006-2008 all the Alice gear was is sage green… I guess to better match the ACU camo. That new Sage green type color is called Camo Green Shade 483 or CG483 for short and was updated well prior UCP around 1990/1991 (to be more precise i'd have to dig up the MIL-C specifications, every component was updated individually, the last item to be updated was the belt that was updated in 1996). older color was Olive Green shade 106 or OG106 for short. I am pretty sure components of Alice gear are still being made under new contracts, last i checked there were 2016 canteen covers, 2012 ammo pouches, 2014 belts. Some time ago i even posted a 1916 model leather holster with a 2016 contract  Those holsters Military Specifications were never updated so if they came thru DOD military contracts they were still supposed to be OD green and with the M12 markings. These are probably contracted directly at some smaller level. i am leaning towards some USAF Security Forces squadron  The only thing i am not sure how the early Black ones that the USN Seals got in the small timeframe they used the beretta m9 were marked. I am leaning toward standard Um84 markings. |
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That’s what it looks like to me, which is supposed to match UCP. LOTS of Army gear came in foliage. |
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wow thanks for all the info! I posted some on the EE I even got some leg extensions too I have a lot. the place I got them from was a surplus store that was retiring and he had such random stuff. I got free reign in the warehouse and I was sadly waking on layers of ww2-late 90's on the floor (over 40 years they were in business) I found a full box of DCU smocks and some other random stuff like granite gear scope covers. I walked out with a large truck load. |
have gun will travel
Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.
Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.
Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
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Originally Posted By joeviterbo: That new Sage green type color is called Camo Green Shade 483 or CG483 for short and was updated well prior UCP around 1990/1991 (to be more precise i'd have to dig up the MIL-C specifications, every component was updated individually, the last item to be updated was the belt that was updated in 1996). older color was Olive Green shade 106 or OG106 for short. I am pretty sure components of Alice gear are still being made under new contracts, last i checked there were 2016 canteen covers, 2012 ammo pouches, 2014 belts. Some time ago i even posted a 1916 model leather holster with a 2016 contract https://images2.imgbox.com/63/7f/RsRuL6eL_o.jpg Those holsters Military Specifications were never updated so if they came thru DOD military contracts they were still supposed to be OD green and with the M12 markings. These are probably contracted directly at some smaller level. i am leaning towards some USAF Security Forces squadron https://images2.imgbox.com/3d/f2/pCl2ig28_o.jpg The only thing i am not sure how the early Black ones that the USN Seals got in the small timeframe they used the beretta m9 were marked. I am leaning toward standard Um84 markings. Originally Posted By joeviterbo: That new Sage green type color is called Camo Green Shade 483 or CG483 for short and was updated well prior UCP around 1990/1991 (to be more precise i'd have to dig up the MIL-C specifications, every component was updated individually, the last item to be updated was the belt that was updated in 1996). older color was Olive Green shade 106 or OG106 for short. I am pretty sure components of Alice gear are still being made under new contracts, last i checked there were 2016 canteen covers, 2012 ammo pouches, 2014 belts. Some time ago i even posted a 1916 model leather holster with a 2016 contract https://images2.imgbox.com/63/7f/RsRuL6eL_o.jpg Those holsters Military Specifications were never updated so if they came thru DOD military contracts they were still supposed to be OD green and with the M12 markings. These are probably contracted directly at some smaller level. i am leaning towards some USAF Security Forces squadron https://images2.imgbox.com/3d/f2/pCl2ig28_o.jpg The only thing i am not sure how the early Black ones that the USN Seals got in the small timeframe they used the beretta m9 were marked. I am leaning toward standard Um84 markings. wow this was really helpful! the place I got it from was near Little Rock so that makes sense about a USAF sf squadron. Originally Posted By raf: Pages 17 and 18 in This link will be informative as to some of the various models/sizes of the Bianchi military holster, as well as some of the accessories in the system. I've seen Tan, Desert Camo, M-81 Woodland and all black leather versions as well as common black and O.D. nylon holsters. Sage Green is a new one on me. There "may" also be limited number runs of holsters in somewhat different colors/camos for foreign countries, but info is scarce on this. There is also a similar series of Revolver holsters, designated UM84R, which also use many of the same accessories. this catalog was cool! I found some thumb straps on eBay but they are expensive! I saw a few woodland and chocolate chip camo versions over the years but not very many. |
have gun will travel
Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.
Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.
Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
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