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12/30/2017 9:09:26 PM EDT
Finally got a chance to get out and play with my TX-12 underbarrel mounted AOW

https://youtu.be/48MbgY9Ec98
12/30/2017 9:34:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Under barrel 12ga; TX-12 AOW; Masterkey; YHM Turbo suppressor
1/26/2018 1:25:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BeaterHonda][Edited] [#2]
Where did you buy?
Can I ask what you paid?
It looks sweet
Is that a standard 10.5" upper?
I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet
1/26/2018 11:34:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Where did you buy?
Can I ask what you paid?
It looks sweet
Is that a standard 10.5" upper?
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Bought it straight from the manufacturer Ten X Ammunition. They were clearencing out a few of them; it would be worth giving them a call to check if they still have some.  
It’s a standard 10.5” PSA upper; just added a 7075 drop in picatinny rail.
2/5/2018 2:19:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bjgunner:

Bought it straight from the manufacturer Ten X Ammunition. They were clearencing out a few of them; it would be worth giving them a call to check if they still have some.  
It’s a standard 10.5” PSA upper; just added a 7075 drop in picatinny rail.
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Very nice.

Does the BATFE consider this a SBS once mounted to an AR w/ stock?

I only ask as I'm in Washington state and can do AOW's (I already own a SERBU type) but can't do SBS.

Thanks in advance.
10OCT16 - GM Curtis Worth Hulit (USN) 4th Bat. Seabees - WWII - 30JAN09 - R.I.P. Grandpa
2/6/2018 10:22:06 AM EDT
[#5]
It’s still an AOW even when mounted to the rifle.
2/6/2018 10:44:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TREETOP][Edited] [#6]
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Originally Posted By bjgunner:
It’s still an AOW even when mounted to the rifle.
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Any idea how they pulled that off? Before IN allowed SBSs I couldn't get a Masterkey because it was considered an SBS and not an AOW, because of it being attached to/fired from a platform with a buttstock. Now that a SBSs are legal I can own one. Very curious how the manufacturer words their explanation for that.

[edit:] Looks like the manufacturer claims it's an AOW when it has its own pistol grip mounted as a standalone weapon, but a Destructive Device when mounted to a rifle. That makes sense. You might want to ask to have this thread deleted.
˙ǝuılƃıs ʎɯ uı ʇnd oʇ ɹǝʌǝlɔ ƃuıɥʇʎuɐ ɟo ʞuıɥʇ ʇ,uɐɔ I
2/6/2018 7:23:29 PM EDT
[#7]
The ATF approved the original design for use on a rifle. They later advised them to add the pistol grip to keep the AOW status. These were never reclassified.
2/6/2018 11:07:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bjgunner:
The ATF approved the original design for use on a rifle. They later advised them to add the pistol grip to keep the AOW status. These were never reclassified.
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Then this letter confuses me....

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http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=589687
2/6/2018 11:50:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bjgunner][Edited] [#9]
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Here is an ATF letter stating an AOW shotgun mounted to a rifle still remains an AOW.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu212/ke6guj/NFAstuff/aowunderrifle1.jpg
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu212/ke6guj/NFAstuff/aowunderrifle2.jpg
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu212/ke6guj/NFAstuff/aowunderrifle3.jpg
2/7/2018 10:58:34 AM EDT
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Which only serves to further confuse me. I want to believe.
2/14/2018 6:07:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Daggertt:
Which only serves to further confuse me. I want to believe.
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Me too. The only reason I haven't gone this route yet...
10OCT16 - GM Curtis Worth Hulit (USN) 4th Bat. Seabees - WWII - 30JAN09 - R.I.P. Grandpa
3/8/2019 4:21:41 PM EDT
[#12]
I have considered this as well, but everything I had found said it was an SBS. As others have said, "I want to believe..."
3/8/2019 7:55:19 PM EDT
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That letter is addressed to Mr. Jack not a blanket letter to the manufacturer of said AOW in this thread. So he is good to go with his letter in hand. I want to believe too but will hold out for more info.
5/5/2019 7:30:50 AM EDT
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If I follow this thread correctly - it would not be controversial to add the non-gripped AOW version to a "pistol" since a pistol does not have a stock.

A "braced" AR would seemingly be A-OK?  and where does one find the AOW non-gripped version?

In my opinion - it would have been ideal if they made a version that allows an "AR" grip that could be removed if desired or picking a grip of ones choice.

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