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Posted: 2/18/2026 1:22:17 PM EDT
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Update! Took the gun to a gunsmith and he ended up tweaking the guide rails the carrier and spring. It now runs smoothly. Thanks guys for your advice and yes it ended being more than I could do. But the gun runs fine now! I posted pics yesterday in GD of my new Winchester 94 Gun is exactly what I wanted except with one problem. The gun tilts the cartridge to high and it hits the top of the chamber. If I wiggle the bolt back again it drops in. Any ideas on how to fix this. The screws are tight. I've tried fast and slow working of the lever. The action is clean and lubed. What do yall think?Attached File Attached File Sorry for the blurry picture of the jam. My some took the photos yesterday I've got to get a new phone. |
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Originally Posted By DVCER: Might be apples/oranges, but my marlin 45-70 gags like that if my reloads are too long. It could be the ammo length, and I know there are not many choices in your cal. When I get my dies in I can take push that bullet in a little deeper. That's a factory load it is strange. |
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I think OAL of your cartridges are the culprit. The .38-55 was used in both lever action repeaters and single shot rifles. The single shots usually were long throated to accommodate bullets of different lengths and weights, repeaters not so much. Starline makes .38-55 brass in two lengths, 2.085" and 2.125" for this very reason. Even loaded factory ammo has differences in OAL cartridge length. The two brands I presently have on hand, HSM 240 grain LFN and Black Hills 255 grain LFN, are 2.468" OAL and 2.504" OAL respectively. I keep the OAL cartridge length on my .38-55 reloads between 2.45" and 2.50" for using in my own Winchester 94 in that caliber. Gary |
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Good call Gary. He’s got the dies coming, if it was me I’d have a few different bullets on hand. Play with a empty case/seat depth till I hit a sweet spot. I had no idea that cool caliber had 2 case lengths. Triggered a 45-70 reloading experience for me. Hornady flex tip bullets need the case cut down, unless you have the factory flex tip brass, which is shorter. Learned that one rolling my own flex bullets. They fed poorly, till I cut the brass back. I’m not sure I would just seat those deeper OP. They should have a stout crimp and you could cause problems .Measure the cases. |
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Originally Posted By DVCER: Good call Gary. He’s got the dies coming, if it was me I’d have a few different bullets on hand. Play with a empty case/seat depth till I hit a sweet spot. I had no idea that cool caliber had 2 case lengths. Triggered a 45-70 reloading experience for me. Hornady flex tip bullets need the case cut down, unless you have the factory flex tip brass, which is shorter. Learned that one rolling my own flex bullets. They fed poorly, till I cut the brass back. I’m not sure I would just seat those deeper OP. They should have a stout crimp and you could cause problems .Measure the cases. Originally Posted By DVCER: Good call Gary. He’s got the dies coming, if it was me I’d have a few different bullets on hand. Play with a empty case/seat depth till I hit a sweet spot. I had no idea that cool caliber had 2 case lengths. Triggered a 45-70 reloading experience for me. Hornady flex tip bullets need the case cut down, unless you have the factory flex tip brass, which is shorter. Learned that one rolling my own flex bullets. They fed poorly, till I cut the brass back. I’m not sure I would just seat those deeper OP. They should have a stout crimp and you could cause problems .Measure the cases. Does came in I pulled a round and reloaded on both ends of the spectrum. Got them to fall back into the action and or ram the chamber still. I'm wondering if there is an issue with the extractor interfering. I'm probably going to at this point take it to a good gunsmith with lever actions and see if he can sort it. Thanks for the help |
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Originally Posted By jack_pine_savage: I think OAL of your cartridges are the culprit. The .38-55 was used in both lever action repeaters and single shot rifles. The single shots usually were long throated to accommodate bullets of different lengths and weights, repeaters not so much. Starline makes .38-55 brass in two lengths, 2.085" and 2.125" for this very reason. Even loaded factory ammo has differences in OAL cartridge length. The two brands I presently have on hand, HSM 240 grain LFN and Black Hills 255 grain LFN, are 2.468" OAL and 2.504" OAL respectively. I keep the OAL cartridge length on my .38-55 reloads between 2.45" and 2.50" for using in my own Winchester 94 in that caliber. Gary So o got my dies in and went low to high, They are falling back into the action or are still impacting high. I'm wondering if the extractor is doing something weird. I'm taking it in I believe at this point. I'm also running the short brass. |
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Originally Posted By Chuck25: So o got my dies in and went low to high, They are falling back into the action or are still impacting high. I'm wondering if the extractor is doing something weird. I'm taking it in I believe at this point. I'm also running the short brass. Check the tension on your ejector, the ejector spring may need to trimmed. I had to trim a coil off of the ejector spring in my Rossi R92 in .454 Casull as it was doing the same thing your rifle is doing. With .45 Colt ammunition, it worked fine. But with the longer .454 Casull cartridges, it would jam. Gary |
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Originally Posted By jack_pine_savage: Check the tension on your ejector, the ejector spring may need to trimmed. I had to trim a coil off of the ejector spring in my Rossi R92 in .454 Casull as it was doing the same thing your rifle is doing. With .45 Colt ammunition, it worked fine. But with the longer .454 Casull cartridges, it would jam. Gary Thanks the spring was part of the problem when I got it back. Good call. |
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