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7/4/2026 12:37:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ak4784][Edited]
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I have been asking a lot of questions recently due to getting this thing back on Memorial Day weekend. I then immediately left town for work and haven’t been home since. I have been acquiring components and now I am finally almost done. I still have a few small things to do.
I am going to replace the Trijicon mount with something else, probably Scalarworks. I have the Surefire UE tail cap and a Modbutton lite with lead coming that’s going on a Trajectory Arms NAS K button mount. That will finish out the light set up. I may switch out the front hand guard also, just not sure with what yet.
I have a Form 1 pending, once that clears I will add the KES tele stock. I do plan to keep the Gearhead Works MOD1C brace for traveling though.
I currently have the Obsidian 9 on it but also have a Form 4 pending for an OCL Milkman. That will be dedicated to this and the Obsidian will go back to pistol use.
I did manage to snag a HK pictogram ambi Navy housing to complete to look and match the FTR.
I love this thing. Honestly probably more than my best ARs. I have never really been a PCC/sub gun fan…but this changes that. I don’t think I will get any more because this is and always has been my favorite of that category. I feel like I have checked off a bucket list firearm.
Anyway, thanks for all the help dudes and Happy 4th of July!
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7/4/2026 1:48:38 AM EDT
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Dont like the utg mount?


Had one in my cart for the last week at battlehawk


Wanna put a holosun and 3x flip on ap5 full size
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7/4/2026 8:57:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kbi:
Dont like the utg mount?


Had one in my cart for the last week at battlehawk


Wanna put a holosun and 3x flip on ap5 full size
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The UTG rail is actually very nice! Great design. It’s the Trijicon factory MRO mount that I want to change. I just don’t like the blockyness of it lol.
7/4/2026 9:31:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ak4784:


The UTG rail is actually very nice! Great design. It’s the Trijicon factory MRO mount that I want to change. I just don’t like the blockyness of it lol.
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Take a look at the Leap SW0500. Comes in 2 different heights. I use this same combo on 4 of my PCC HK's.
7/4/2026 4:05:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chargerdude70:



Take a look at the Leap SW0500. Comes in 2 different heights. I use this same combo on 4 of my PCC HK's.
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That is the exact one I looked at. 1.5”.
7/4/2026 9:37:50 PM EDT
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Nice gun OP.
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7/7/2026 12:17:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By southerncross:
Nice gun OP.
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Thanks man
7/7/2026 1:05:39 AM EDT
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Looks good!
7/12/2026 12:11:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ak4784:
I have been asking a lot of questions recently due to getting this thing back on Memorial Day weekend. I then immediately left town for work and haven’t been home since. I have been acquiring components and now I am finally almost done. I still have a few small things to do.
I am going to replace the Trijicon mount with something else, probably Scalarworks. I have the Surefire UE tail cap and a Modbutton lite with lead coming that’s going on a Trajectory Arms NAS K button mount. That will finish out the light set up. I may switch out the front hand guard also, just not sure with what yet.
I have a Form 1 pending, once that clears I will add the KES tele stock. I do plan to keep the Gearhead Works MOD1C brace for traveling though.
I currently have the Obsidian 9 on it but also have a Form 4 pending for an OCL Milkman. That will be dedicated to this and the Obsidian will go back to pistol use.
I did manage to snag a HK pictogram ambi Navy housing to complete to look and match the FTR.
I love this thing. Honestly probably more than my best ARs. I have never really been a PCC/sub gun fan…but this changes that. I don’t think I will get any more because this is and always has been my favorite of that category. I feel like I have checked off a bucket list firearm.
Anyway, thanks for all the help dudes and Happy 4th of July!
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7/12/2026 12:59:08 PM EDT
[#9]
Sweet!

I think one of those is next on my list.
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7/12/2026 5:15:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hanz:
Sweet!

I think one of those is next on my list.
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You better do it asap!

7/12/2026 5:58:26 PM EDT
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You better do it asap!

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Thank you.  I'm a poor, I'll purchase an Century Arms/MKE
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7/12/2026 7:13:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hanz:
Thank you.  I'm a poor, I'll purchase an Century Arms/MKE
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7/14/2026 1:53:35 AM EDT
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Slight changes to light set up and new can.

I added a section of cantilever rail to push the surefire out forward a bit more and added the NAS K/modbutton lite, and of course the Milkman suppressor.
I did also finally find a B&T MP5K telescopic stock and have it ordered. That will have to wait until the Form 1 gets approved.

Here are a couple of quick pics. Second pic is top down, showing the button placement.

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7/17/2026 3:12:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hanz:
Thank you.  I'm a poor, I'll purchase an Century Arms/MKE
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I've had MKE and HK MP5Ks in several flavors. An original 93 HK SP89, HK SP5K-PDW, and MKE AP5P. If you get a good one, the MKE has very little to complain about. Properly set up (and possibly a few choice parts replaced with HK), it's every bit as reliable. There are minor fit and finish details that are lacking, but it's not remotely worth nearly 3x the price for the HK.

The MP5/MP5K is an incredibly simple design. Hell, HK charges about what MKE does for their full-auto PDW guns (about $1300-$1900), complete with a stock. Meanwhile, the civilian market gets fucked with stockless HK 'pistols' for $3000+.

If you want the prestige, get the HK. It's satisfying, but it's expensive. If you want a gun that runs 100% as well for less money, get the MKE. And that's from someone who never gets the 'just as good' option. All the same, I decided to take a chance because I wanted something less expensive to burn out with FRT, and I've been completely satisfied with the quality from MKE.
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7/17/2026 10:55:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By krdt:


I've had MKE and HK MP5Ks in several flavors. An original 93 HK SP89, HK SP5K-PDW, and MKE AP5P. If you get a good one, the MKE has very little to complain about. Properly set up (and possibly a few choice parts replaced with HK), it's every bit as reliable. There are minor fit and finish details that are lacking, but it's not remotely worth nearly 3x the price for the HK.

The MP5/MP5K is an incredibly simple design. Hell, HK charges about what MKE does for their full-auto PDW guns (about $1300-$1900), complete with a stock. Meanwhile, the civilian market gets fucked with stockless HK 'pistols' for $3000+.

If you want the prestige, get the HK. It's satisfying, but it's expensive. If you want a gun that runs 100% as well for less money, get the MKE. And that's from someone who never gets the 'just as good' option. All the same, I decided to take a chance because I wanted something less expensive to burn out with FRT, and I've been completely satisfied with the quality from MKE.
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I snobbed out and obviously went with the HK. That said one of my friends kitted out an MKE very similar to mine posted above. He did add some key HK parts(ejector,ejector lever, spring). HK mags, etc.
I shot both side by side a couple of weeks ago. Honestly, it’s hard to feel any difference.
I am happy with my HK and I have the money to blow to be a part of the elite class but I wouldn’t hesitate to rock an MKE if money was tight or I wasn’t hooked on owning HK.
The HK feels a bit smoother manually cycling the action and there are some finer details the HK has going for it but probably not $2K difference worth. I’d be very happy with a well running MKE.
7/18/2026 9:11:13 AM EDT
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7/26/2026 12:02:47 AM EDT
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Form 1 came back. Objective complete. SP5K PDW in its final form. This thing is amazing!

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7/26/2026 12:26:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ak4784:
Form 1 came back. Objective complete. SP5K PDW in its final form. This thing is amazing!

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Great looking gun, nicely done.
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7/26/2026 11:25:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hanz:
Great looking gun, nicely done.
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Thanks man!
7/27/2026 8:03:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ak4784:
Form 1 came back. Objective complete. SP5K PDW in its final form. This thing is amazing!

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53193/IMG_9350_jpeg-3801158.JPG

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That looks awesome.
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7/28/2026 5:55:03 AM EDT
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That looks awesome.
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Thank you!

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