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11/23/2022 1:56:44 PM EDT
Does anyone have access to that info? There is a thread on the CMP forum where members request firearms information. You submit your SN and you can cross-check it to see if there are any hits in the system. It can help track down the history of the firearm. It's really neat.

I have the electronic version but according to a few of the people over there, it is missing info. I asked what information was missing but I never received an answer. So back to my original question, doesn't anyone have access to the info? I am more than happy to cross-check SN's to what I have but there is a potential some info is missing.

Ex. a few excerpts.

Colt1911s.

6114     111231PRESCOTT ARMORY (STOLEN)
719275     072443USS SARATOGA TORPEDO SQDN 3
2199720     060550USMC - USS MIDWAY

1903s

12981RI   050141USMC - PARRIS ISLAND
54842     111730USMC - PEARL HARBOR
3600926     091244USS NOA (SALVAGED)
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11/24/2022 12:08:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TGH456E][Edited] [#1]
To be honest..... I'm not sure what you are asking here.........

-You are willing to take serials posted here and put them into the CMP thread?
-You are looking for someone here with the Books to look and see how it differs from your on-line version?

Or you want to start the same type thread here, using your SRS copies?
11/24/2022 12:53:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TOTHEMAX][Edited] [#2]
I just re read what I wrote. I did it in haste yesterday so hopefully this clears it up.

The cmp thread is so slow its not even worth posting in it. While it provides their members some solid info, some of our members are not members over there and don't have access to the thread.

Does anyone here have the books and are they willing to help our members look up numbers?

I have the electronic version and I am willing to look stuff up but I have been told, but never shown, that there may be missing data.
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11/24/2022 7:43:34 PM EDT
[#3]
Oh OK........

I don't have all the books and magazines........ or I would.
11/25/2022 7:58:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TOTHEMAX][Edited] [#4]
I am offering up my services to look up SN's in the electronic database. If anyone wants me to check SN's, post them up and I will see if there are any hits.

I just need the Gun make (M1 Garand, 1903, etc and the SN). If you want to PM me I can go that route as well.
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11/25/2022 8:39:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Seven-Shooter][Edited] [#5]
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:
I am offering up my services to look up SN's in the electronic database. If anyone wants me to check SN's, post them up and I will see if there are any hits.
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S/N# of service weapons?  Or how does this work?

In any case, here's a couple that might fit the bill, though I already looked them up online for their production blocks, and already know some of the post war history of the shorter one.
SA M1, 3745359
SA M1, 748550
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11/25/2022 9:14:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:
S/N# of service weapons?  Or how does this work?

In any case, here's a couple that might fit the bill, though I already looked them up online for their production blocks, and already know some of the post war history of the shorter one.
SA M1, 3745359
SA M1, 748550
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Nothing super close.

3741323         80SSGT M MCSHEEHY, USAR (AWARD)
3747971     111348FT BRAGG

747723     111846RARITAN ARS AIR GAGE TEST
749121     052252NY MA
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11/25/2022 10:50:53 PM EDT
[#7]
How about SA M1 # 2077967 ?
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11/25/2022 10:58:36 PM EDT
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How about SA M1 # 2077967 ?
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2077196     020249USMC - BAYONNE NJ
2078454NM   09  59NAVY MATCH RIFLE TEST
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11/27/2022 1:30:02 PM EDT
[#9]
I have been looking at 1903 rifles on gun broker and checking their SN's to my srs records. No hits yet but a few dang close ones.

This one was close to a rifle I was looking at. Pretty neat history here.

1143143     031149FOREST SERVICE - ALASKA
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11/27/2022 1:35:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TOTHEMAX][Edited] [#10]
There must have been a shipment stolen from the Montana NG. There are close to 26 1903's listed as stolen on the list.

16044     121835MONTANA NG (STOLEN)

There is also a bunch of these that pop-up. I wonder if they are part of the stolen rifles? Helena, MT is the home of Fort Harris.

368366     042737LAKE HELENA (RECOVERED)

Edit:

Looks like they were stolen from the arsenal after an earthquake and later recovered.

http://www.helenahistory.org/arsenal_armory.htm
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11/27/2022 7:35:11 PM EDT
[#11]
Are you helping out with SRS info on 1903s or M1 Garands, … or both? Thanks!
11/27/2022 10:01:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nick_Adams:
Are you helping out with SRS info on 1903s or M1 Garands, … or both? Thanks!
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I have access to 1903, 1911, m1 garand, m1 carbine, krag, trap doors, 1917s, etc. Pretty much anything us military.
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11/29/2022 10:05:00 PM EDT
[#13]
Can you PM me tomorrow? I’ve got two 1903s and one M1 that need to be checked. Thanks!
11/29/2022 10:13:09 PM EDT
[#14]
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Originally Posted By Nick_Adams:
Can you PM me tomorrow? I’ve got two 1903s and one M1 that need to be checked. Thanks!
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I will try to remember. I am on shift so I may forget.
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12/6/2022 12:37:18 PM EDT
[#15]
Hi, any info on Winchester 131795
thanks
12/7/2022 12:06:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By hagrock2:
Hi, any info on Winchester 131795
thanks
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I am away from my data for a week but I will check when I get home.
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12/7/2022 5:17:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:

I am away from my data for a week but I will check when I get home.
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:
Originally Posted By hagrock2:
Hi, any info on Winchester 131795
thanks

I am away from my data for a week but I will check when I get home.

Please contact me by PM when you get home. I've got two 1903s and one M1 I need checked. Thanks!
12/10/2022 2:36:22 PM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By hagrock2:
Hi, any info on Winchester 131795
thanks
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@hagrock2

No hits

131495     012241WRA CO (FINAL INSPECTION)
131639     012241WRA CO (FINAL INSPECTION)
132290     012241WRA CO (FINAL INSPECTION)
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12/11/2022 7:59:01 PM EDT
[#19]
PM sent.
12/22/2022 2:10:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mitchman705][Edited] [#20]
Garands:

SA 3006101
HRA 5780443
WRA 122619

Please and thank you!
12/22/2022 4:13:14 PM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By Mitchman705:
Garands:

SA 3006101
HRA 5780443
WRA 122619

Please and thank you!
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You are welcome!

3003923     042347USMC - ACCURACY TEST
3007915     050753CO M 60TH INF (LOST)

5746798     091459SA (RUPTURED)
5783678     042357H&R (LIGHTWEIGHT RIFLE TEST)

122439     012241WRA CO (FINAL INSPECTION)
123661     012241WRA CO (FINAL INSPECTION)
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12/31/2022 9:19:15 AM EDT
[#22]
SA 1652706. Thanks
12/31/2022 9:44:46 AM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By L119188:
SA 1652706. Thanks
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No hits

1648138     071753CO L 39TH INF (LOST)
1657600     08  51HQ CO FMF PAC TROOPS
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12/31/2022 8:01:47 PM EDT
[#24]
That’s helpful. Thanks for looking it up.
It’s a Philippine return CMP rifle I got this summer. Left the factory in July of 1943. Wish it could talk. :)
12/31/2022 8:32:02 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By L119188:
That’s helpful. Thanks for looking it up.
It’s a Philippine return CMP rifle I got this summer. Left the factory in July of 1943. Wish it could talk. :)
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You are most welcome.
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1/7/2023 2:20:23 PM EDT
[#26]
Could you do SA M1 621142 please?
1/7/2023 2:25:17 PM EDT
[#27]
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Could you do SA M1 621142 please?
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No dice

619537     0711459TH SERVICE COMMAND
621339     0718466TH ARMY
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1/8/2023 5:40:26 PM EDT
[#28]
Can you do Springfield Garand 3227262?  Thanks
1/8/2023 11:48:29 PM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By tc2129:
Can you do Springfield Garand 3227262?  Thanks
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3227141     082346SAA BARREL FITTING TEST
3228988     050550USMC - CHERRY POINT
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1/10/2023 12:03:35 AM EDT
[#30]
Appreciate it.  I’ve got a few more I may have you look into if that’s ok.  A couple more Garands, some M1 carbines, Krag, and 1903.
1/10/2023 10:10:01 AM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By tc2129:
Appreciate it.  I’ve got a few more I may have you look into if that’s ok.  A couple more Garands, some M1 carbines, Krag, and 1903.
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Anytime.
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1/11/2023 5:14:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DG_NorthTX][Edited] [#32]
Mind doing Springfield M1's 2278846 and 3771039?
(eta) WRA M1 139497
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1/12/2023 10:56:00 AM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By DG_NorthTX:
Mind doing Springfield M1's 2278846 and 3771039?
(eta) WRA M1 139497
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No hits.

2278663     08  51HQ CO FMF PAC TROOPS
2281307     08  51HQ CO FMF PAC TROOPS

3770352     021449FT BENNING
3774714     011450OKLA A&M COLL

138420     1109486TH ARMY
143216     080146M F C HEATER
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1/12/2023 1:57:11 PM EDT
[#34]
Thanks for trying those. I really appreciate it. Here's a Rem 1903 if you don't mind 3035645.
Also, would a US built (Savage) Enfield show up on your list?
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1/12/2023 3:50:15 PM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By DG_NorthTX:
Thanks for trying those. I really appreciate it. Here's a Rem 1903 if you don't mind 3035645.
Also, would a US built (Savage) Enfield show up on your list?
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There is a large gap between those serial numbers.

3023202     020390USMC FIELD MUSEUM QUANTICO
3091705     091648VFW POST 7208

I am not sure about enfields. I would have to look at that data on my pc. I have m1garand and 1903s on my phone.
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1/12/2023 4:14:28 PM EDT
[#36]
Much obliged good sir.  
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1/12/2023 6:47:33 PM EDT
[#37]
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Much obliged good sir.  
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Anytime
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1/16/2023 11:24:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Polupharmakos][Edited] [#38]
Sorry I only saw this just now.  I have the four books, which includes the 1999 edition of vol. 4.  Regarding the differences between the electronic info and books, this is the explanation given over at the CMP: http://forums.thecmp.org/showpost.php?p=1708617&postcount=1834

Happy to look up some guns as time allows.  In return, might I ask a favor from the hive?  I'm on the hunt for an SRS hit trapdoor 1884 cadet rifle between 565,354 and 566,699, as a bunch of those were issued to my alma mater, the Baylor Cadets.  I've run across several within that range, but haven't found an actual direct hit yet for sale, and with the SRS a miss is as good as a mile - even worse, given my understanding of the way the records were made.  But a heads up on anything within that range would be tremendously appreciated!
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1/18/2023 4:59:51 PM EDT
[#39]
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Originally Posted By Polupharmakos:
Sorry I only saw this just now.  I have the four books, which includes the 1999 edition of vol. 4.  Regarding the differences between the electronic info and books, this is the explanation given over at the CMP: http://forums.thecmp.org/showpost.php?p=1708617&postcount=1834

Happy to look up some guns as time allows.  In return, might I ask a favor from the hive?  I'm on the hunt for an SRS hit trapdoor 1884 cadet rifle between 565,354 and 566,699, as a bunch of those were issued to my alma mater, the Baylor Cadets.  I've run across several within that range, but haven't found an actual direct hit yet for sale, and with the SRS a miss is as good as a mile - even worse, given my understanding of the way the records were made.  But a heads up on anything within that range would be tremendously appreciated!
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Would any of the numbers that I posted above show up or did TOTHEMAX's database cover it?  

Here's a 1911 to check on; It's a Rem #2063769
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1/18/2023 6:40:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DG_NorthTX:


Would any of the numbers that I posted above show up or did TOTHEMAX's database cover it?  

Here's a 1911 to check on; It's a Rem #2063769
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No hits on the M1s, 1903, or 1911, sorry.
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1/18/2023 7:40:01 PM EDT
[#41]
I figured it was a long short, but thank you for trying.
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2/17/2023 5:12:39 PM EDT
[#42]
Very early Springfield, was reimported at some point in the mid 80"s by "Blue Sky" Arlington Va. No clue where it was reimported from.

Any info you can find would be greatly appreciated.

I have found conflicting info with some indicating it may have originally been a Gas Trap gun.


#21395
2/17/2023 11:47:35 PM EDT
[#43]
19686     0228464TH SERVICE COMMAND
 21690     030140SA TO OO
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2/18/2023 11:17:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MudbugInAZ:
Very early Springfield, was reimported at some point in the mid 80"s by "Blue Sky" Arlington Va. No clue where it was reimported from.

Any info you can find would be greatly appreciated.

I have found conflicting info with some indicating it may have originally been a Gas Trap gun.


#21395
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https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/gas-trap-garand-the-first-m1-rifle-design/

While this document reveals the number of gas trap rifles originally made, there are still some questions regarding the serial number range for these rifles. For example, it is known that some gas port rifles assembled in mid-1941 were in the 40,000 serial number range, and serial numbers as high as the 51,500 range have been reported by credible sources as original gas trap rifles.

This overlap in serial numbers between gas trap and gas port M1 rifles during this period was a case of the Ordnance Dept. using up gas trap parts still on hand in order to put as many M1 rifles into the hands of troops as possible, even if they weren’t of the latest design.
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2/19/2023 5:58:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:


https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/gas-trap-garand-the-first-m1-rifle-design/

While this document reveals the number of gas trap rifles originally made, there are still some questions regarding the serial number range for these rifles. For example, it is known that some gas port rifles assembled in mid-1941 were in the 40,000 serial number range, and serial numbers as high as the 51,500 range have been reported by credible sources as original gas trap rifles.

This overlap in serial numbers between gas trap and gas port M1 rifles during this period was a case of the Ordnance Dept. using up gas trap parts still on hand in order to put as many M1 rifles into the hands of troops as possible, even if they weren’t of the latest design.
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Thanks so much!
4/19/2023 2:49:21 PM EDT
[#46]
Would you mind checking this one for me? SA 3721547
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4/19/2023 8:06:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DG_NorthTX:
Would you mind checking this one for me? SA 3721547
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M1 garand?

3717238M1C  012992SA MUSEUM SPAR 3357
3723552     012049FT BRAGG

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4/20/2023 8:50:15 AM EDT
[#48]
Yeah it was an M1.
Thanks for looking.
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4/20/2023 7:21:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GarandM11936][Edited] [#49]
Thanks for what you're doing here.

Mind checking a few for me?

WRA Garand: 138307
Springfield 1903: 974513
WRA M1 Carbine: 1294044

4/21/2023 11:08:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GarandM11936:
Thanks for what you're doing here.

Mind checking a few for me?

WRA Garand: 138307
Springfield 1903: 974513
WRA M1 Carbine: 1294044

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137773     082549NG BUREAU
138420     1109486TH ARMY

974501     050433NY STATE ARS GOVS ISLAND
974538     061323MO NG (SURVEYED)

1284688     100648FORK UNION MA
1296832     100648FORK UNION MA

Close on the 1903
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