Armory Sponsor
Posted: 8/24/2026 6:41:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: John-in-austin][Edited]
|
For obvious reasons, I'm NOT posting this in GD. I've been purchasing suppressors since the early 80's. To say the least, the majority of them are horribly obsolete. Several are wet cans or wipe designs that you could club a baby seal with. They have just been taking up space for decades but hey, the nephews might have fun playing with them. Just about all were purchased as an individual, I didn't go the trust route until much later in life. I currently have these things in my will, going to specific friends and family. The usual pre-decision NFA paperwork was a given and essentially the whole process was going to be a pain in the ass for my executor. My question is, what do you think is going to be the ATF response? Now that they are sold and transferred same as a firearm, can I just GIVE these things away or do a private sale? Go to a gun shop and transfer them on a background check? The same question applies to the SBR's, but I plan to just build those back into rifles and distribute them with the SBR parts. 
|
|
Nobody really knows right now...we all have opinions, and my opinion is that you should be able to do what you want legally...my opinion could land you in jail later though lol. The way I see it you have 3 options.. 1. Wait for the ATF to clarify (who know how long, if ever) 2. Take your chances and give them away 3. Form 4 them to a trust ($70 with national gun trusts IIRC) then add all the people on there as RPs and beneficiaries. this is the safest way to do what you want that is without a doubt legal. |
Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer
| My take on it is that first of all, anyone you sell/give your NFA stuff has to be part of one of the plaintiffs in the suit. The injunction only protects the specified plaintiffs right now, so that means that they can’t come after you, they can come after the buyer/giftee for possession of an NFA item if they aren’t part of one of the plaintiff organizations. Second, I’m not sure having a dealer run a 4473 is of any value. First is whether they even can submit a 4473 for a private sale, and even if they can, finding one that will do it. Right now many dealers are afraid to even sell stuff out of their inventory without going through the NFA paperwork. |
|
Originally Posted By John-in-austin: My question is, what do you think is going to be the ATF response? IMO, it will stand as is for now in the 5th circuit. If they were going to appeal, they would have by now and would have requested the stay stay in place. Not let it expire and create a bigger mess down the road. I also think another a similar suite(s) will be filed in another jurisdiction, and a different outcome will prevail. Theoretically an anti-gun group could file the suite and intentionally lose, thus creating a situation where SCOTUS takes it up. One way or another, I do not see the current situation where only a few people with standing can have unregistered NFA items. Something has to give somewhere. |
|
Originally Posted By Oldgold: My take is you’re good to do whatever you want with them. Your "take" just tells us you have not read one word of the federal court injunction. |
Plano, Texas...........the Gun Nut Capitol of Gun Culture, USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
|
Originally Posted By John-in-austin: My question is, what do you think is going to be the ATF response? Unknown. If DOJ/ATF was truly guided by the White House, Silencer Shop Foundations vs ATF wouldn't have gone as far as it did. DOJ could easily have just quit. They didn't. Now that they are sold and transferred same as a firearm They aren't. What is allowed under the current injunction is pretty damn narrow. , can I just GIVE these things away or do a private sale? Go to a gun shop and transfer them on a background check? No, not as I understand the injunction. |
Plano, Texas...........the Gun Nut Capitol of Gun Culture, USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
|
Originally Posted By John-in-austin: For obvious reasons, I'm NOT posting this in GD. I've been purchasing suppressors since the early 80's. To say the least, the majority of them are horribly obsolete. Several are wet cans or wipe designs that you could club a baby seal with. They have just been taking up space for decades but hey, the nephews might have fun playing with them. Just about all were purchased as an individual, I didn't go the trust route until much later in life. I currently have these things in my will, going to specific friends and family. The usual pre-decision NFA paperwork was a given and essentially the whole process was going to be a pain in the ass for my executor. My question is, what do you think is going to be the ATF response? Now that they are sold and transferred same as a firearm, can I just GIVE these things away or do a private sale? Go to a gun shop and transfer them on a background check? The same question applies to the SBR's, but I plan to just build those back into rifles and distribute them with the SBR parts. "Suppressors from the 80's" I'm an old dude. 1980's stuff is still right up my alley. "CLuB a baby seal with" Yep. About sizes up those early cans. I wouldn't bother with any of those early cans. With what's available today, junk IMO. First, you obviously haven't totally understood the Texas ruling. E Form NFA is super simple; first one I did took me 20 minutes at the shop including fingerprints. The ones after that, ten minutes? My prints, photo were already in the system along with all my prefilled info. Poof. Form 4 sent. Individual transfers at the moment appear to be taking a couple days. Just do it, man. Get with your people, go see your local NFA dealer who will probably charge a nominal fee for processing but the actual tax you know is zero. Easy-peasy!!! |
Armory Sponsor