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Posted: 5/3/2025 7:37:32 AM EDT
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What are my options to use it as a stand alone launcher? The ONLY thing available I see online is from “FAB defense” and frankly, it looks like plastic junk. Any suggestions???? Thanks in advance for the link to a crazy deal |
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Was looking for an LMT but they seem to be out of stock everywhere. Interesting comments about FAB. Maybe I misjudged my first impressions. Are they made of all plastic? |
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Originally Posted By SGT-Fish: I actually like the fab defense stock a lot. Especially for the money. That’s what I got for our SWAT team (for CS & less-lethal impact). It’s almost entirely plastic, but there’s a steel mounting plate that replaces the back plate of the M203, which is why you must remove both that plate and the trigger guard. It’s just 1 screw and 1 roll pin to do that. The front has 2 machine screws securing it. So you cannot quickly switch from the FD-203 standalone config to something else. If that’s what you want, go with the LMT and a KAC QD mount. We tried that too, but it’s heavier and bulkier. We had no intention of mounting ours to carbines so the Fab was a better fit. I personally own both. The LMT feels a little more solid in use, but there’s nothing wrong with the Fab, and the folding stock locks up tight (and is the same stock they use on other systems). You’ll need an AR-ish height optics riser, or maybe slightly higher. The FD-203 cheek riser can adjust up, but you’ll never have to do that. They sell a long and a short version and the difference in LOP is only about 1” but I prefer the “Long”. Attached File (This optic is too low to use.) Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Thanks for all the responses. Good stuff! MY M203 will come with the classic under barrel mount for M4. Will the FAB Defense product work with that? Will the LMT? From what I’m reading, the LMT won’t work with the Colt under barrel mount. |
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Originally Posted By Makarov: Will the FAB Defense product work with that? Originally Posted By Makarov: Will the FAB Defense product work with that? Will the LMT? From what I’m reading, the LMT won’t work with the Colt under barrel mount. Get a KAC QD mount if you go the LMT route. You won't regret it. They can be found secondhand since they're military issued. You'll need the plain old mounting bracket mount to do this though. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder: The Fab won't need it because the FD-203 bolts directly to the threads in your M203 receiver. Idk. Never seen that tried. If yours comes with the rifle bracket (with "stand off"/nose) then no. If it's a carbine bracket, maybe. Get a KAC QD mount if you go the LMT route. You won't regret it. They can be found secondhand since they're military issued. You'll need the plain old mounting bracket mount to do this though. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13082/M203_2012_jpg-1282215.JPG Originally Posted By KitBuilder: Originally Posted By Makarov: Will the FAB Defense product work with that? Will the LMT? From what I’m reading, the LMT won’t work with the Colt under barrel mount. Get a KAC QD mount if you go the LMT route. You won't regret it. They can be found secondhand since they're military issued. You'll need the plain old mounting bracket mount to do this though. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13082/M203_2012_jpg-1282215.JPG Does the plain old mounting bracket come with the gorgeous woman or was that an add-on? Mine is a 9” barrel with the M4 upper handguard, in the box. I’m guessing it will NOT work with the LMT standalone stock and its picatinny design. |
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Originally Posted By Makarov: I’m guessing it will NOT work with the LMT standalone stock and its picatinny design. LMT offers another standalone for their M203-2003, which is their version of the M203 which clamps directly onto Picatinny rails (but doesn't mount to barrels like a USGI M203 does). Beautiful women are optional, but highly recommended. |
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Originally Posted By Falconpilot1: I bought a LMT standalone stock this week. Got a pistol with the sights and picked up the butt stock adapter to mount the buffer tube and stock. Let me get to the other computer to get links. Thanks for the links @Falconpilot1 Was your M203 the “classic” under barrel M4 mount as well (NOT the picatinny rail mount)? |
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder: +1 That’s what I got for our SWAT team (for CS & less-lethal impact). It’s almost entirely plastic, but there’s a steel mounting plate that replaces the back plate of the M203, which is why you must remove both that plate and the trigger guard. It’s just 1 screw and 1 roll pin to do that. The front has 2 machine screws securing it. So you cannot quickly switch from the FD-203 standalone config to something else. If that’s what you want, go with the LMT and a KAC QD mount. We tried that too, but it’s heavier and bulkier. We had no intention of mounting ours to carbines so the Fab was a better fit. I personally own both. The LMT feels a little more solid in use, but there’s nothing wrong with the Fab, and the folding stock locks up tight (and is the same stock they use on other systems). You’ll need an AR-ish height optics riser, or maybe slightly higher. The FD-203 cheek riser can adjust up, but you’ll never have to do that. They sell a long and a short version and the difference in LOP is only about 1” but I prefer the “Long”. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13082/67465574_2506606859395848_16287492232498-1281496.JPG (This optic is too low to use.) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13082/C688AC32-0868-4752-A8A3-4D3F62C6B709_jpe-1302997.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13082/67367375_2506606836062517_69114429043638-1281494.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13082/970DB161-3E18-493C-8B26-8CF5EB8AD4DD_jpe-1281501.JPG I really need to cut one of my spare barrels down. They look so good in the FD-203 with a 9" barrel. I cut the trigger guard off my FD-203 and created a little pocket for the factory M203 trigger guard to rest in. Makes swapping them around at the range possible. But I still rarely swap them. |
| Last I saw the Fab versions work with the barrel mount. I have a pic mount and I went with a pace defense frame, and put a JMAC folding stock on it. |
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Thanks all. I went ahead and ordered the FAB Defense offering as no one has an LMT, in stock, that will work with my M4 underbarrel mount M203. I called OTB and asked. Maybe at some point in the future they will be available again but since it’s such a niche market, it’s doubtful. The more I research the FAB, the more glowing reports I read and it does have a cool factor to it Thanks again for all the responses. Outside of GD, ARFCOM is just the best place for good advice. |
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