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Posted: 7/28/2026 7:27:23 AM EDT
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The Teardown Systems SnR rig comes with side-release buckles already set up for integration to their harness. They do provide a couple of metal G-Hook buckles if you prefer that for the harness to rig frontal attachment as an option. I do like the flatter profile of the G-Hooks and they are a metal, one-piece construction, is there any major advantage? G-Hooks can kind of be a PITA to quickly remove. Side-release buckles have been used for a long time with a good reputation and can quickly be detached if needed. Any strong preference from our "tactical gear community of interest) between these? I have a baggie of G-Hooks somewhere for some project long forgotten  ROCK6 |
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| In my experience, G Hooks work best in applications that keep them under tension. If the strap is loose at times, I’ve had G hooks come undone. I think it would work well enough for attachment for a placard to a PC because they would be redundant to Velcro. There is some movement between a belt rig and harness. It might create some slack at times. Hard to say for sure without trying it. |
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OP check out Gate keeper buckles: https://seekoutside.com/gatekeeper-set-1-hd-size-3-pairs/?srsltid=AfmBOooc4raLHD3GGhMdw7i3kAdieRtaOyTab1WPzp8VHya4evanX1nG They have a shorter overall length than SRBs and they have the utility to hook anywhere you want, like G hooks. G hooks are great as long as they are under a good bit of tension but I've always disliked how they can flop loose if the tension is lessened ( like releasing compression straps on a bag). Hill People Gear make velcro keepers for G hooks but I'm not a fan of that solution, though I've never had a problem with the keepers. |
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Originally Posted By cap6888: In my experience, G Hooks work best in applications that keep them under tension. If the strap is loose at times, I’ve had G hooks come undone. I think it would work well enough for attachment for a placard to a PC because they would be redundant to Velcro. There is some movement between a belt rig and harness. It might create some slack at times. Hard to say for sure without trying it. Originally Posted By cap6888: In my experience, G Hooks work best in applications that keep them under tension. If the strap is loose at times, I’ve had G hooks come undone. I think it would work well enough for attachment for a placard to a PC because they would be redundant to Velcro. There is some movement between a belt rig and harness. It might create some slack at times. Hard to say for sure without trying it. That makes good sense for best application. Originally Posted By Vexed: OP check out Gate keeper buckles: https://seekoutside.com/gatekeeper-set-1-hd-size-3-pairs/?srsltid=AfmBOooc4raLHD3GGhMdw7i3kAdieRtaOyTab1WPzp8VHya4evanX1nG They have a shorter overall length than SRBs and they have the utility to hook anywhere you want, like G hooks. G hooks are great as long as they are under a good bit of tension but I've always disliked how they can flop loose if the tension is lessened ( like releasing compression straps on a bag). Hill People Gear make velcro keepers for G hooks but I'm not a fan of that solution, though I've never had a problem with the keepers. I have several of the Gate-Keepers (I have a couple of Seek Outside packs which is where I first encountered them). I've found them handy for attaching/piggybacking a smaller pack or pouch to a larger pack. I don't know how strong they are/rated for but they're a pretty decent/secure option as well. ROCK6 |
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Originally Posted By ROCK6: That makes good sense for best application. I have several of the Gate-Keepers (I have a couple of Seek Outside packs which is where I first encountered them). I've found them handy for attaching/piggybacking a smaller pack or pouch to a larger pack. I don't know how strong they are/rated for but they're a pretty decent/secure option as well. ROCK6 Yeah I use them for the same purposes and agreed, not sure on the strength. HPG is using them for a detachable harness mod for kit bags and they seem satisfied with the durability for that application. What would be cool is a metal G hook with a gate latch. the pinch/release method obviously wouldn't work but I'm sure an engineer could work something out without too much hassle. |
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My ruck's load shelf is attached with g-hooks but that's also supported by side release. Never had a problem with them slipping. Ferro Bison belt inner had a g-hook and never had a problem with directly. Replaced the belt for stiffness and 1.75" stability. But those are constant tension applications. You guys ever see super g-hooks? 
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You guys have hit the high points, to which I will add plastic SRBs are susceptible to breaking whereas the G-Hooks are not. If not from repeated use, then from impact/contact damage. I’ve had/seen that happen a time or two. |
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Originally Posted By PistoleroJesse: My ruck's load shelf is attached with g-hooks but that's also supported by side release. Never had a problem with them slipping. Ferro Bison belt inner had a g-hook and never had a problem with directly. Replaced the belt for stiffness and 1.75" stability. But those are constant tension applications. You guys ever see super g-hooks? https://milspecmonkey.com/store/879-large_default/sx-super-g-hook.jpg |
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Depends on application, how much I'm removing the thing, and of course, how much of a bitch it would be to replace if it were to break. SR buckles are fairly fragile when it comes to impact, especially in the cold, so if it's in a spot where it could get smacked with your weight/momentum, that should be a consideration, along with where you could stow a replacement. For placards, I am 110% a hardcore G-hook fan, they don't break, they're low profile, and they're just much less annoying when you have other crap on a carrier. But I'm not swapping placards very often, if at all, so YMMV. I also like G-hooks for rigging up weird stuff, like my homebrew elastic chest rig backstrap. You can retrofit stuff without sewing and make it semi permanent by wrapping it in tape. |
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All the above. Other thoughts - SRB's work best when you need to release the buckle alot. Ghooks are fine for on-off alot, but only if you don't secure them with some kind of secondary way of holding the ghook in place so that it doesn't come loose. IE, a sleeve or whatever around it to hold it in place. I personally don't like ghooks for most things - they come loose too easily. However, I've seen some things where they'd work great. To attach a placard for instance, especially if you use a sleeve over the ghook (or similar - I've also seen people bend g-hooks a bit to close them to make them more permanent, though, again, that's a bit more...permanent) On your rig, I'd see replacing the buckles that attach to the shoulder straps, especially the ones on the front of your body, with Ghooks (and sleeves, bending, etc.) might be a good option. That is the most important, load bearing location, and one where you wouldn't want the buckle to break. Once you get a set of straps you like, you aren't going to be taking them on and off there alot. Same for placards on plate carriers. Basically, ghooks are a good option for when you want a more permanent connection that you want to be more durable. |
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Originally Posted By marnsdorff: On your rig, I'd see replacing the buckles that attach to the shoulder straps, especially the ones on the front of your body, with Ghooks (and sleeves, bending, etc.) might be a good option. That is the most important, load bearing location, and one where you wouldn't want the buckle to break. Once you get a set of straps you like, you aren't going to be taking them on and off there alot. Same for placards on plate carriers. Basically, ghooks are a good option for when you want a more permanent connection that you want to be more durable. Yeah, I've only had SRBs get broken when on free hanging pack straps for the most part. Getting stepped on, slammed in vehicle door, etc. I need to look at my SnR rig again as I think the SRBs are sewn in. I was just considering some Ghooks not just because they're more durable, but they're less bulky and a flatter profile for the front of the rig. The SRBs on the sides/back are fine as that's the most used way to disconnect for easier on/off. The times I've used Ghooks is on some packs or gear where they're often used in conjunction with tension and I've never had them work themselves loose. If I don't end up replacing them, I do have some removable SRBs for field fixes and I can toss a matching pair in a utility pouch with a few zip ties for field repairs. ROCK6 |
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