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7/13/2025 11:17:47 PM EDT
I have a 13.7" JAKL upper with the shorter rail. Im trying to find pictures to gauge, but im having trouble.

Anyone happen to know how much of the bottom of the rail is available to actually use? t
7/14/2025 10:31:28 AM EDT
[#1]
huh? usable for what?
Redd Bingham
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7/14/2025 11:14:02 AM EDT
[#2]
This is the version for the LAW ARIC, not the Jakl, but hopefully this helps. I’m running a 9.875” rail on the upper with a 16” barrel. Attached File
7/14/2025 12:51:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BrownellsGT_RedB:
huh? usable for what?
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I imagine what he is asking is whether the JAKL 13.7 upper has enough rail poking out past the SRU trigger area for a useable  place to put your offhand, or a vertical grip.

Sven
Manticore Arms

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7/14/2025 4:02:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms:


I imagine what he is asking is whether the JAKL 13.7 upper has enough rail poking out past the SRU trigger area for a useable  place to put your offhand, or a vertical grip.

Sven
Manticore Arms

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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
Originally Posted By BrownellsGT_RedB:
huh? usable for what?


I imagine what he is asking is whether the JAKL 13.7 upper has enough rail poking out past the SRU trigger area for a useable  place to put your offhand, or a vertical grip.

Sven
Manticore Arms



Yes, exactly.  I had more written, but apparently arfcom ate the rest. They have foregrips that attaches to in front of the trigger area, but I was curious if I could get away with just the barely lower handguard. They have the handguard extension, but I don't particularly want to use that.
7/14/2025 10:18:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Thor][Edited] [#5]
I just slapped my 10.5 on today. The 13.7" with the short handguard has a bit more than half and extra mlok slot compared to the 10.5 handguard as well as some extra spacing from the sling QD. Rough measurements say the short 13.7 handguard will likely be a hair longer then the chassis.

7/14/2025 10:23:56 PM EDT
[#6]
I did find this. Looks to be a 13.7 with the short handguard. It's either right at or right over the edge of the chassis.

7/15/2025 9:44:12 AM EDT
[#7]
What is this wizardry!   I must have it.
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7/15/2025 9:58:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Thor][Edited] [#8]
@Steamedrover

It’s a bullpup chassis for the AR platform sold by SRU precision. It uses a standard AR lower and is easily compatible with the FM 15 and the JAKL bufferless uppers. It is also compatible with a standard AR upper if you use the dead foot arms 2.5 inch recoil system and bcg, Or you can buy the butt plate extension from SRU Kentri 3.5 inch buffer system that uses a standard BCG. The dead foot buffer system runs about $400, while the Kentri is $100. If you use  the Kentri system the LOP is equal to the Springfield hellion bowl, so not obnoxious.
7/16/2025 4:55:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Thor:
@Steamedrover

It’s a bullpup chassis for the AR platform sold by SRU precision. It uses a standard AR lower and is easily compatible with the FM 15 and the JAKL bufferless uppers. It is also compatible with a standard AR upper if you use the dead foot arms 2.5 inch recoil system and bcg, Or you can buy the butt plate extension from SRU Kentri 3.5 inch buffer system that uses a standard BCG. The dead foot buffer system runs about $400, while the Kentri is $100. If you use  the Kentri system the LOP is equal to the Springfield hellion bowl, so not obnoxious.
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Also works with the LAW ARIC.
7/17/2025 10:40:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Steamedliver][Edited] [#10]
Looks great!

Gonna do more research.   Thanks.

Edit.   Looking for a 7.62x39 option.
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7/17/2025 11:00:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver:
Looks great!

Gonna do more research.   Thanks.

Edit.   Looking for a 7.62x39 option.
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@Steamedliver

BRN-180 has a 7.62 upper.

the FM-15 uppers can be rebarreld if you open up the barrel nut. I’ve done one in 300blk, 7.62, and 6.5 Grendel. When these are in stock it’s even easier as the barrel nut is already larger.
7/18/2025 1:02:40 AM EDT
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Hmmmm.... Any guesses how much too short one of the pistol length blackout JAKL uppers would be? I think they're about 8.5" barrels.  It might be interesting if it was a full time suppressor host...
Disclaimer - OP is bad at knowing things, and might catch on fire.
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7/18/2025 10:30:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Amish_Bill:
Hmmmm.... Any guesses how much too short one of the pistol length blackout JAKL uppers would be? I think they're about 8.5" barrels.  It might be interesting if it was a full time suppressor host...
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It  would work, and the suppressor would just ride above the chassis , but the handguard wouldn’t be long enough to use the front attachment lug. Without that the lower is held into the chassis primarily with the grip screw and also with the molding of the clamshell. I wouldn’t call that a solid mounting set up. Recoil could cause stress cracking or wear on the inner polymer. The A3 tactical triad kit would be better suited, but almost double the price.
7/18/2025 10:57:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Thor:


@Steamedliver

BRN-180 has a 7.62 upper.

the FM-15 uppers can be rebarreld if you open up the barrel nut. I’ve done one in 300blk, 7.62, and 6.5 Grendel. When these are in stock it’s even easier as the barrel nut is already larger.
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Thank you.  

Neither option is “cheap.”    So, having said that, which option would be best?
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7/18/2025 8:58:08 PM EDT
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There is also an fm 15 gen 2 builder kit that allows any bolt, barrel, and gas block to be used with a 13" handguard, if easy barrel length and / or caliber replacement is a must have.

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