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1/7/2025 10:16:10 AM EDT
[#1]
I ordered an FDE mid December and just got my shipping notification on the 14th. It will be the new version. Glad I went with the back order FDE rather than the in stock black.
1/7/2025 2:51:07 PM EDT
[#2]
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Originally Posted By Earax:
I ordered an FDE mid December and just got my shipping notification on the 14th. It will be the new version. Glad I went with the back order FDE rather than the in stock black.
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Yeah, lt us know what upgrades come with your FDE model.  

It's so damn hard to really make a judgment off these things based on reviews when already there have allegedly been some serious upgrades. Don't get me wrong, I applaud the manufacturer for upgrading so quickly based on user feed back, but I just have no clue what to think about these right now.

1/7/2025 3:30:41 PM EDT
[#3]
I was truly debating on purchasing, but to see such a massive divide on water rating for this compared to other units like the new IRIS (IPX3 vs IPX8)

This is what 4MR Ranch had to say, and what dissuaded me from purchasing at this point in time:

“I have confirmed from SMS that the illuminator adjustment dial is the main area to have water intrusion issues. Doesn’t sound like they have plans to improve it. This is a huge drawback and this unit can never be ‘duty’ grade if this isn’t fixed.”
1/7/2025 3:44:10 PM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By ct78:
I was truly debating on purchasing, but to see such a massive divide on water rating for this compared to other units like the new IRIS (IPX3 vs IPX8)

This is what 4MR Ranch had to say, and what dissuaded me from purchasing at this point in time:

“I have confirmed from SMS that the illuminator adjustment dial is the main area to have water intrusion issues. Doesn’t sound like they have plans to improve it. This is a huge drawback and this unit can never be ‘duty’ grade if this isn’t fixed.”
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I think it's a stretch to believe anyone would ever consider this "duty grade" no matter waterproof or not. That said, I'm interested in it and will probably get one in the near future. To be honest I'm more concerned with shock and recoil than water.
"I said,'I don't know how to vomit softly.' That's like telling someone to shit perfume."
1/7/2025 4:43:57 PM EDT
[#5]
Even with a poor water rating, if it holds zero under recoil at that price point its a lot of value. Probably not the best solution for a real, use it every day for a job, duty rifle.
1/7/2025 6:37:53 PM EDT
[#6]
As long as it can put up with light rain, I'm good. If I need to kick in doors, I'll buy an IRIS or a MAWL or whatever.
1/7/2025 6:43:42 PM EDT
[#7]
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Originally Posted By erwos:
As long as it can put up with light rain, I'm good. If I need to kick in doors, I'll buy an IRIS or a MAWL or whatever.
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Get a square of 100 mph tape, throw it over the button, let it sit for a while and I bet it would still work while getting rid of the main point of water intrusion. Wouldn't be purty but it would probably be a quick fix for a while.
1/7/2025 7:23:41 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By fivepointoh:
Get a square of 100 mph tape, throw it over the button, let it sit for a while and I bet it would still work while getting rid of the main point of water intrusion. Wouldn't be purty but it would probably be a quick fix for a while.
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I sold my LS321 in the last week to fund the IRIS so my priority at the moment is to get something future proof.

However I agree with you and if I had the extra coin I’d probably buy the SMS FDE model and take that approach. I think it would do the trick as far as becoming more water proof
1/10/2025 2:01:55 PM EDT
[#9]
Just an FYI. When I ordered a few days ago, the order button said "pre order" but below it said "Orders usually ship in 3-6 days for US". I just checked with SMS and they are currently out of stock but will ship "soon".
1/10/2025 9:15:22 PM EDT
[#10]


I don't have a significant number of rounds on my FDE unit, but I got it zero'd and used it last night and again this evening. I will say I am quite pleased with it for the money. I am running it on my Sig MPX Copperhead and it actually fits perfectly size wise on the top rail. The Copperhead doesn't have much room for accessories so I like that the HFXC has a decent white light on it. I don't see myself shooting this gun much past 100-150 yards, so no complaints. For the money, this unit is hard to beat if you just want a decent unit for a price that won't break the budget to outfit several guns.
1/11/2025 10:18:52 AM EDT
[#11]
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Originally Posted By tranzformer:
https://i.ibb.co/qY8R2PY/IMG-7869.jpg

I don't have a significant number of rounds on my FDE unit, but I got it zero'd and used it last night and again this evening. I will say I am quite pleased with it for the money. I am running it on my Sig MPX Copperhead and it actually fits perfectly size wise on the top rail. The Copperhead doesn't have much room for accessories so I like that the HFXC has a decent white light on it. I don't see myself shooting this gun much past 100-150 yards, so no complaints. For the money, this unit is hard to beat if you just want a decent unit for a price that won't break the budget to outfit several guns.
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@tranzformer

That looks like the new version without strobe.

I assume it can adjust the ir laser separately from the ir illuminator?  How is that feature working? Can you adjust the laser low enough to prevent bloom while still having the full power illuminator?

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I am not an operator nor am I very smart.
Keep that in mind when reading my comments:-)
1/13/2025 10:39:47 PM EDT
[#12]
Just received my FDE unit. Alas, mine has the strobe. Oh well, for the price point, it will work.
1/13/2025 11:06:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stiglitz_actual][Edited] [#13]
For the folks with an "older" one w/ strobe, anyone brave enough to open it up and find out what microcontroller is driving these?
Probably an ATtiny or similar that might be reprogrammable

I ordered one on the 10th, hopefully they produce some more and it actually shows up

ETA: looks like they posted an assembly/potting video on instagram a while ago that shows the chip
1/14/2025 5:17:00 PM EDT
[#14]
So I saw on their IG that they were contemplating giving people that *just* bought the Gen 1 HXFC (Strobe) a 40% discount on the Gen 2. I can understand them not just putting a code out there, as new buyers would use it too - but I contacted them twice, with my purchase info, but have heard nothing back. Anybody else get any info on this? The discount post was in the comments on their IG page about the new device.
1/14/2025 6:02:41 PM EDT
[#15]
I saw that post and thought it was a train wreck waiting to happen. I’d consider myself morally convicted at this point in my life and even I would have a hard time not using the 40% discount as a first time buyer if I ended up finding it
1/14/2025 8:34:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: carholio][Edited] [#16]
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Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:
So I saw on their IG that they were contemplating giving people that *just* bought the Gen 1 HXFC (Strobe) a 40% discount on the Gen 2. I can understand them not just putting a code out there, as new buyers would use it too - but I contacted them twice, with my purchase info, but have heard nothing back. Anybody else get any info on this? The discount post was in the comments on their IG page about the new device.
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I reached out to them about the discount code for the new gen. I gave them my order number for the Gen 1 I just received.

I received this reply  on January 5th.  Translate as you see fit - "waiting for us to be ready".  That was all they said.

I also asked about the battery extender cap but...

Does that reply mean I'll get a code once they resupply? No idea. Even at full price I'll probably  buy another once it's confirmed the Gen 2's are out and no Gen 1's remain.

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I am not an operator nor am I very smart.
Keep that in mind when reading my comments:-)
1/15/2025 12:42:16 PM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By carholio:



I reached out to them about the discount code for the new gen. I gave them my order number for the Gen 1 I just received.

I received this reply  on January 5th.  Translate as you see fit - "waiting for us to be ready".  That was all they said.

I also asked about the battery extender cap but...

Does that reply mean I'll get a code once they resupply? No idea. Even at full price I'll probably  buy another once it's confirmed the Gen 2's are out and no Gen 1's remain.

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Thanks for the info. How did you contact them? I tried their web contact form and their IG DM.
1/15/2025 4:28:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Smokehouse_83][Edited] [#18]
Got my v2 code email today. Just preordered a fde for 160 bucks. The code is literally v2.  Perfect timing too, I just ordered a fde BRN/Mat9 upper and a fde PA 1x micro prism.
1/15/2025 4:55:58 PM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By Smokehouse_83:
Got my v2 code email today. Just preordered a fde for 160 bucks. The code is literally v2.  Perfect timing too, I just ordered a fde BRN/Mat9 upper and a fde PA 1x micro prism.
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Got an email too
"Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid" - John Wayne
1/15/2025 5:39:55 PM EDT
[#20]
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Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:



Thanks for the info. How did you contact them? I tried their web contact form and their IG DM.
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Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:
Originally Posted By carholio:



I reached out to them about the discount code for the new gen. I gave them my order number for the Gen 1 I just received.

I received this reply  on January 5th.  Translate as you see fit - "waiting for us to be ready".  That was all they said.

I also asked about the battery extender cap but...

Does that reply mean I'll get a code once they resupply? No idea. Even at full price I'll probably  buy another once it's confirmed the Gen 2's are out and no Gen 1's remain.

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Thanks for the info. How did you contact them? I tried their web contact form and their IG DM.



I used their website.

But as others have stated, they emailed me a code today.  I guess all previous buyers are getting an email with the code.

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I am not an operator nor am I very smart.
Keep that in mind when reading my comments:-)
1/15/2025 5:55:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: carholio][Edited] [#21]
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Originally Posted By laxman09:

Got an email too
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
Originally Posted By Smokehouse_83:
Got my code email today. Just preordered a fde for 160 bucks. The code is literally.  Perfect timing too, I just ordered a fde BRN/Mat9 upper and a fde PA 1x micro prism.

Got an email too



@Smokehouse_83
@laxman09

Is it really cool to share the code with non gen 1 buyers.  

Sorry for being that guy but what if a previous buyer misses out because they decide to cancel the code early because they sold too many at a discount.

Maybe edit your posts?

I just pre ordered my v2 using the code so I'm set but maybe others might not be so lucky.

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I am not an operator nor am I very smart.
Keep that in mind when reading my comments:-)
1/15/2025 5:57:27 PM EDT
[#22]
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Originally Posted By carholio:



@Smokehouse_83
@laxman09

Is it really cool to share the code with non gen 1 buyers.  

Sorry for being that guy but what if a previous buyer misses out because they decide to cancel the code early because they sold too many at a discount.

Maybe edit your posts?

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It's controlled by email. Discount only works if you ordered with them previously. Someone already tried it with no previous order and it wouldn't work.
"Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid" - John Wayne
1/15/2025 5:59:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: carholio][Edited] [#23]
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Originally Posted By laxman09:


It's controlled by email. Discount only works if you ordered with them previously. Someone already tried it with no previous order and it wouldn't work.
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Nice. Thanks for letting me know. Sorry for being a Karen, lol.


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I am not an operator nor am I very smart.
Keep that in mind when reading my comments:-)
1/15/2025 6:28:37 PM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By mx5autoxer:
Just an FYI. When I ordered a few days ago, the order button said "pre order" but below it said "Orders usually ship in 3-6 days for US". I just checked with SMS and they are currently out of stock but will ship "soon".
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Ordered mine over the weekend…just got shipping notification today
1/15/2025 6:59:07 PM EDT
[#25]
Ordered mine on the 9th. Just got a shipping notification today.
1/15/2025 7:06:56 PM EDT
[#26]
Just got mine in FDE unfortunately it's the older version. Tried to email them on the contact page and nothing. Is there a particular email address or something to ask about getting a second unit with the update?
1/15/2025 7:48:33 PM EDT
[#27]
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Originally Posted By BravoSierra:
Just got mine in FDE unfortunately it's the older version. Tried to email them on the contact page and nothing. Is there a particular email address or something to ask about getting a second unit with the update?
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Just order using the code above and same email you used to buy it.
"Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid" - John Wayne
1/15/2025 9:55:25 PM EDT
[#28]
18650 battery caps up for preorder.
1/15/2025 10:53:59 PM EDT
[#29]
Check out the new 4mr ranch video on the iris. Looks like the ole hxfc hangs with it and the m6tr for a quarter of the price. Especially the v2. If they replace the side focus wheel with a slide switch that’s sealed and these things last they are gonna fuck up the market.
1/15/2025 11:36:14 PM EDT
[#30]
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Originally Posted By Smokehouse_83:
Check out the new 4mr ranch video on the iris. Looks like the ole hxfc hangs with it and the m6tr for a quarter of the price. Especially the v2. If they replace the side focus wheel with a slide switch that’s sealed and these things last they are gonna fuck up the market.
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My IRIS came in today and with the little bit of messing around with it , it seems to be an exceptional device. However, if SMS incorporates the changes you noted and makes it into a 3-1 device, I’ll definitely buy some for my other rifles. The IRIS is great for my go-to gun, but I’ve got some other rifles that I want to be NV capable without breaking the bank.
1/15/2025 11:39:53 PM EDT
[#31]
Yep, had a super fast response. Love this company. Ordered another with the code!
1/15/2025 11:48:20 PM EDT
[#32]
One note:  It will allow you to order the same number of units you last ordered with the same e-mail.  
I ordered one to start, liked it for the price, then ordered two more for my boys with the same e-mail.
When I went to use the v2 code, it would only allow two units with the discount, a third was full price.

I used their contact us page, explained I had ordered twice, gave them my order numbers, and asked if I would be able to buy three units at the discount.  They came back within 15 minutes with a completely different more random code that allowed me to get three with the discount.  Impressive turn around on the response, and it's nice to see them at least make the gesture to people who bought the V1 when the V2 came out so quickly after.


1/16/2025 12:23:30 AM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By Smokehouse_83:
Got my v2 code email today. Just preordered a fde for 160 bucks. The code is literally v2.  Perfect timing too, I just ordered a fde BRN/Mat9 upper and a fde PA 1x micro prism.
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Appreciate it. I just picked up another one, and this fixed my only gripe with the unit (other than it being off centered, I hate that).
1/16/2025 12:51:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: belted_guns][Edited] [#34]
Thanks for the heads up on these. I got mine a couple days ago. The light is bright, the green and ir lasers are bright, tight, and adjustable,  I like it.

Before I go and order a few more, can someone help me get a few questions answered? I asked these on their contact page but no response.
1) is the unit rain shower proof or only sprinkle proof
2) is it rated to use on a 762x51 ar style?

Also, are these Chinese, EU, or American made?
1/16/2025 8:37:42 AM EDT
[#35]
All the reviews I watched pretty much showed it only having a problem when you actually submerge it. Water is getting in through the focus wheel. Like someone above said if you need to submerge it put a square of gorilla tape over the wheel. The thing is definitely made in china. The emails are wrote in broken engrish lol. I think one of the reviewers had it on a Scar which is THE test gun for optics and lasers and such.
1/16/2025 10:41:27 AM EDT
[#36]
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Originally Posted By TheGunslinger:
18650 battery caps up for preorder.
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1/16/2025 1:00:35 PM EDT
[#37]
Thanks.
China product, don't dunk in water but rain is ok.
BTW, mine has the latest feature set. Independent power settings, no strobe, easy to switch to high power.
This is a great product for $245.
1/16/2025 1:02:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Just to clarify, the v2 has independent adjustment for laser and Illuminator power levels?
1/16/2025 1:10:45 PM EDT
[#39]
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Originally Posted By MHIDPA:
Just to clarify, the v2 has independent adjustment for laser and Illuminator power levels?
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Yes, mine does. Even better, when using both the light and laser, you can independently control each, left and right buttons.
1/16/2025 2:21:00 PM EDT
[#40]
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Originally Posted By TheGunslinger:
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Just ordered. Will report back after I get my unit Tuesday, and after I get the battery cap....sometime in the future.
1/16/2025 7:29:53 PM EDT
[#41]
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Originally Posted By belted_guns:

Yes, mine does. Even better, when using both the light and laser, you can independently control each, left and right buttons.
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Is the ir laser still super bright on low?
1/17/2025 2:04:45 AM EDT
[#42]
Thanks for the update guys, ordered a v2 with the code and an 18650 battery cap.

The responsiveness of this company to feedback is AMAZING. They are doing in months what the big names don't do in years.

Jury is still out on durability but they sure seem well made and honestly at the price they are nearly disposable compared to similarly performing options. I'll keep the V1 around as a floater or to slap on in case the V2 breaks. For what I paid for both units I will be at half the price of an IRIS, 1/5 the price of a gray market PEQ, and just over 10% the price of a MAWL. And that is not even taking the white light into consideration.
1/17/2025 5:28:21 PM EDT
[#43]
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Originally Posted By shenendoah_rifleman:
Thanks for the update guys, ordered a v2 with the code and an 18650 battery cap.

The responsiveness of this company to feedback is AMAZING. They are doing in months what the big names don't do in years.

Jury is still out on durability but they sure seem well made and honestly at the price they are nearly disposable compared to similarly performing options. I'll keep the V1 around as a floater or to slap on in case the V2 breaks. For what I paid for both units I will be at half the price of an IRIS, 1/5 the price of a gray market PEQ, and just over 10% the price of a MAWL. And that is not even taking the white light into consideration.
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I'm with you. I also ordered another HFXC with the 18650 battery cap. I don't care very much about using 18500s vs 18650s, but I figure the flexibility will be nice, if nothing else.
1/17/2025 6:19:55 PM EDT
[#44]
If anyone for some reason had a code they don’t want to use I would take a run at purchasing & comparing it with the IRIS
1/17/2025 8:30:38 PM EDT
[#45]
My shipping label from yesterday's order was printed. Last time it went out the next day.
"Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid" - John Wayne
1/18/2025 4:27:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: carholio][Edited] [#46]
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
My shipping label from yesterday's order was printed. Last time it went out the next day.
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I just got shipping info today for my v2.  Didn't get shipping notification for the extended battery cap yet.

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I am not an operator nor am I very smart.
Keep that in mind when reading my comments:-)
1/18/2025 8:57:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stiglitz_actual][Edited] [#47]
I "pre-ordered" on the 10th and a v2 showed up today

Quality seems good, no issues mounting to an Aero Enhanced rail
Light output is adjustable but vis laser isn't? IR light/laser output independently adjustable

Will see how it holds up on my 300blk brn180


1/18/2025 9:41:48 PM EDT
[#48]
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Originally Posted By stiglitz_actual:
I "pre-ordered" on the 10th and a v2 showed up today

Quality seems good, no issues mounting to an Aero Enhanced rail
Light output is adjustable but vis laser isn't? IR light/laser output independently adjustable

Will see how it holds up on my 300blk brn180
https://distortion.io/i/IMG_0602.jpg

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That's strange. I just got a V2 yesterday and my visible laser is adjustable.
1/18/2025 10:18:00 PM EDT
[#49]
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Originally Posted By Tug153:


That's strange. I just got a V2 yesterday and my visible laser is adjustable.
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User error - I didn't get it into high power mode like I thought
Working as it should now
1/19/2025 10:34:39 AM EDT
[#50]
Got the code emailed to me and ordered a $160 V2. How much should a V1 go for on the EE?

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